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Violent Leftists Will Crush Christianity if Democrats Win!

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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

I was raised Christian and have since become agnostic precisely because of hypocrisy.


A person cannot be raised a Christian, in the sense anybody will actually accept the faith, spiritual birth an act of God, only for the wholly repentant that throw themselves on God's mercy. You never believed. Jesus Christ spoke abundantly of hypocrites, scripture replete with references to false prophets, fake Christians, even a fake end times church body, so the hypocrisy is spelled-out, prophesied in scripture, is, in fact, evidence of scripture truth. You cannot know anything about the Christian faith and use that argument. It's ridiculous, as if Holy God doesn't exist or is bad, because people are bad.

You were never a true believer, that loved God first, listened to God first, rather you even judge God by sinful man scripture, cover to cover, addresses the problems of. A believer of the Holy Spirit, born of the Spirit, is, again, wholly repentant, will never turn back, as scripture also teaches. If you turned away, it was because you were never born from above, in the first place. You did not become anything you already were not, that is, you were unsaved, in the first place.

As to Democrats destroying Christianity? I think their arms are much too short, to box with God, and the world according to antichrist is only going to come about on God's time, not any political hack morons, of any party. This sounds more like Voltaire, that proclaimed the Bible dead. It was his books that wound-up in a flea market, for 8 cents a piece. How many Voltaire books do you own? Even you unbelievers, do you have Voltaire or a dusty Bible on your shelf? Anyway, bring on the destruction. Sounds a lot like gay pride, good for a laugh.




posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: Grambler




Saying not to go after people that rob you is not saying jesus was ok wigth robbery.


Jesus wasn't about law enforcement. He stopped an adulteress from being stoned to death for her crime, remember? "Go and sin no more" was his motto.



Yes, jesus said give unto ceaser, that wasnt him saying it was moral for caeser to demand taxes.


What he was saying is that, matters of "the world" are not to preoccupy Christians and take priority over their duty to do "God's will". God's will, according to Jesus is charitable and forgiving.



I guess we should all just submit to a collectiovist paradise like Maos china.


Jesus wasn't about hypothesizing utopian government systems either. "His" kingdom is yet to come. We don't bring it, "no one knows the day".

Again, your arguments aren't Christian arguments. They are the arguments of Christian hypocritical apologists and non-believers. Which one are you?


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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

I find you to be a fake christian as well.

Trying to claim jesus was ok with robbery.

Yep, because he said turn the other cheek and wanted to stop a stoning, he was ok with people just going out and stealing form their neighbors!

So are you a hypocrite, or a fake christian?

I never said jesus was for utopian governments.

I said your claims that advocating political positions werent christian are absurd.

But fine, you are quite good at quoting scripture.

Can you post me where jesus said voting to lower taxes is not christian?

Otherwise, can you admit you are a Christian hypocritical apologists or non-believer.



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Again, your arguments aren't Christian arguments. They are the arguments of Christian hypocritical apologists and non-believers. Which one are you?



This is always the case, as the unbeliever doesn't really have a spiritual reference, being dead in trespasses and sins, not of the Spirit. They literally are unable to see that all these silly arguments are simply carnal philosophizing, of no relation to scripture doctrine of the Christian faith, which they do not, cannot, understand. 1 Corinthians 2:14. It's like a blind man, disagreeing with you on what a painting looks like.



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Sookiechacha



Don't intend to lecture, but hypocrisy really burns me up! Not you, CriticalStinker, but the conservative Christian politicians that vote for tax cuts for the rich and food and healthcare cuts for the poor, for example. I'll just leave it there, and not get into their immigration hypocrisy.




But you are conlating voting for personal behavior.

Voting to raise taxes so that other people cvan foot the bill for people I feel deserve the money more does not make me moral.

What would be moral is that before I demand other people pay for what I consider a good cause, that I am putting all of my excess money to that cause.

So when a rich celebrity, tech tycoon, or politician tells me that I have to pay more in taxes or I am immoral, or I have to pay more for alternative energies or I am immoral, etc., it is absolute garbage and doesnt make them a moral person.

In addition, you comment ignores what the motives are for wanting things like tax cuts.

First off, tax cuts will always "benefit the rich" because they pay the most in taxes. In other words, if you pay no taxes, a cut wont help you.

But I feel that these cuts raise the economy for all, this benefiting the poor more than making them dependent on social programs.

How I vote is irrelevant to rather or not I am acting as a christian; I could donate my personal money and time to helping the poor while voting against raising everyone elses taxes to "help the poor"

Remember, the communists claimed to be moral people that wanted to help the poor and achieve equality using the state; and hundreds of millions of people died so they could feel good about themselves.


Totally agree and I'm kinda tired of leftists using Jesus as leverage to promote socialism. Socialism is not charity and it's not fair.
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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Grambler




I find you to be a fake christian as well.


I'm a non-believer, who was raised with Christian values. I'm not criticising your position, but noting that it isn't a Christian position. I'm criticisng politiians who wrap themselves in the flag, carrying a Bible in one hand and a cross in the other, and then do exactly the opposite of what Jesus taught.



Can you post me where jesus said voting to lower taxes is not christian?


Voting to lower taxes on the rich and lower healthcare and food assistance to the poor is Christian hypocrisy. But, it's something one would expect from the likes of Caesar. These conservative Christian politicians that I criticise are emulating Caesar more than they are emulting Jesus Christ.




Yep, because he said turn the other cheek and wanted to stop a stoning, he was ok with people just going out and stealing form their neighbors!


Jesus was not fine with sin. His motto was "go and sin no more". Jesus was all about change through love and forgiveness. Punishment is God's purview.



But fine, you are quite good at quoting scripture.


I was raised "Christian" and know my stuff! But, I'm a non-believer. I once believed in Santa Clause and knew all his reindeer's names, all about his elves in the toy workshop and his fabulous sled. But, at some point I stopped believing.



Otherwise, can you admit you are a Christian hypocritical apologists or non-believer.


Can you?
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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Grambler




Trying to claim jesus was ok with robbery.


That's your argument btw. Or do you think he would be fine with corporate cronyism and the kinda wealth inequality we see in todays time and age of robber barons, who claim to be too big to fail?

And please don't tell me you don't understand this take on robbery?



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler




Saying not to go after people that rob you is not saying jesus was ok wigth robbery.


Jesus wasn't about law enforcement. He stopped an adulteress from being stoned to death for her crime, remember? "Go and sin no more" was his motto.



Yes, jesus said give unto ceaser, that wasnt him saying it was moral for caeser to demand taxes.


What he was saying is that, matters of "the world" are not to preoccupy Christians and take priority over their duty to do "God's will". God's will, according to Jesus is charitable and forgiving.



I guess we should all just submit to a collectiovist paradise like Maos china.


Jesus wasn't about hypothesizing utopian government systems either. "His" kingdom is yet to come. We don't bring it, "no one knows the day".

Again, your arguments aren't Christian arguments. They are the arguments of Christian hypocritical apologists and non-believers. Which one are you?

I just love it when a Leftist pretends to know the scriptures. You have no idea what you are talking about or your pastor signed on to the UN World Council of Churches which now that I think of it is more likely.
But yes Jesus said he did not come to change the laws... unlike Obama who came to change our laws and also our mores.
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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:20 AM
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Your political baiting and rhetoric are becoming tiresome

I'm starting to wonder what news station you work for



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: theantediluvian

(I’m only half joking. Posting this while working on my New Zealand citizenship forms..)


No one gives a snip you douche...
Why do people like you think we care about stuff like this? Or seeing a picture of your nappy dreads? Or seeing you go for a hike?

Get over yourself...

On topic.

a reply to: theantediluvian

You lost me at "closed door meeting"...
The last time you all complained Trump said something behind "closed doors" it was inaccurate then too.

Oh and in case you were wondering jr. the last thing I worry about is democrats trying to hurt me. I worry about what I'd do to one trying to hurt someone I cared for. You carry a bike lock in a polo sock I carry a glock.



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


All I hear from you are rocks clambering back and forth inside your head.



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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Arguing w this poster is pointless, they are too entrenched to know when they are wrong and too stubborn to evwr admit



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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I just don't know anymore
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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

You are contradicting yourself from post to post.

You say jesus said give unto caeser, that means he was cool with taxing people.

Yet here you say politicians try to emulate caser.

Well you just said jesus was ok with caeser and that proves high taxes are ok.

So which is it?

You have no evidence from scripture whatsoever that advocating for lower taxes is not christian.

I want lower taxes because I think it will help all people, even the poor.

Yet someohow that is an anti christian position?

Absolute nonsense, designed only to avoid rational debate on issues and label your oppnonent immoral.



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


All I hear from you are rocks clambering back and forth inside your head.


It's not my fault what you hear. You spout the typical leftist rhetoric of Jesus being socialist and all that it is our moral responsibility to let the all powerful state take whatever they want from our paychecks for the sake of the common good. There are many good Christian charities. I know of one pastor who started one in Cambodia. Socialists believe that forced redistribution is the only way to equitably redistribute wealth. They do not take into account free will. They are not charitable they desire power. The Pelosis and the Schumers and the Watters brand of charity is not charity or they would give up their millions instead of sacking the middle class in the name of class warfare against the rich.



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

I read your opening post and decided that this thread wasn't
worth my time.I am a very busy mama getting ready for a yard
sale,have a nice day!



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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Nobody's going to crush Christianity. Christians love playing the martyr, just like the guy on the cross. Us versus them. The more they torture you, the more you're convinced that they're doing it because they know you're right.

The biggest threat to Christianity (all major religions, really), is success and complacency. Many religions are created to help people get through suffering and hard times. Take away the suffering and there's a lot less need for it. It becomes a philosophical abstraction that you can just shrug off.



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Grambler



Yet here you say politicians try to emulate caser.

Well you just said jesus was ok with caeser and that proves high taxes are ok.

So which is it?


It's the epitome of Christian hypocrisy. If they're going to emulate Caesar, who wasn't a bad politician, per say, then they shouldn't campaign on bringing Christian values to government.


Certainly one can be a Christian and still do their government job. But don't claim to do both.


Matthew 6:24 "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.




I want lower taxes because I think it will help all people, even the poor.


But, that's not what's happening. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer when politicians vote to lower taxes on the rich and lower healthcare standards and subsidies and food assistance to the poor.
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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
I just love it when a Leftist pretends to know the scriptures. You have no idea what you are talking about or your pastor signed on to the UN World Council of Churches which now that I think of it is more likely.
But yes Jesus said he did not come to change the laws... unlike Obama who came to change our laws and also our mores.


It is a hoot. They should never open their mouths regarding scripture.

Changing the times, overturning some things that have existed for millennia in human civilization, is one the very attributes of the devil, what they're doing, for instance, with "gay marriage" repulsive in its evil character, if you're a believer you know the simile of the body of believers being the bride of Christ, marriage between man and woman a sacrement. The changes liberals are looking for are a shadow of the antichrist:

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

It's about overturning very moral order, the end the destruction of civilization, as it stands. And they're cheering it on, "Please! Help us cut off our own noses!"



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

So you already know the poor are getting poorer after the tax cuts?

It is true that wealth inequality has been increasing, but the amount of people being lifted out of crushing poverty the world over has been rapidly rising, due largely to free market princpals.

And the poor in this country, despite having a lot of problems, still have it much better than all people in recorded history.

For example, I am on the cusp of living in poverty, and certainly spent many years in it.

Yet I have a computer, tv, vidoe games, a roof over my head, food, etc.

Now yes, there are people in this country even less fortunate than me, in fact I consider myself very lucky.

But every system ever has had that, and every system always will.

I argue that lower taxes and more free markets, depsite not being perfect, will help that problem better than any other system, and history seems to shwo I am right.

Some people want to end wealth disparity using mass taxes and social programs, like venzuela did.

And sure, the ended the disparity, by making everyone poor.

Again, you are assuming wanting lower taxes means I am not concerned with the poor; that is not true.

So no, how I vote does not make moe more or less christian.




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