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Violent Leftists Will Crush Christianity if Democrats Win!

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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


I know following a conversation that is not about you, or addressed to you, can daunting, especially when your mind is filled with anti socialism paranoia violently attacking Christianity. My input in this conversation is about Christian hypocrisy, and how it has already taken Christianity.


Matthew 11:12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it.




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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:13 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


I know following a conversation that is not about you, or addressed to you, can daunting, especially when your mind is filled with anti socialism paranoia violently attacking Christianity. My input in this conversation is about Christian hypocrisy, and how it has already taken Christianity.


Matthew 11:12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it.





Well aren't you just the clever one.... what exactly was it you were trying to justify with that bible quote? Antifa maybe? This is a forum for all members is it not? Get a private irc chat if you don't want people to comment.



posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ketsuko




I *am* the average American worker, and I'm telling you that they tend to enact policies that can and have benefited me.


Then "they" are not the wolves in sheep's clothing that Jesus was talking about, are they?

I'm talking about politicians that wrap themselves in the flag, carrying a Bible in one hand and a cross in the other, claiming God's blessing upon them, while they funnel money into their own pockets and the pockets of their corrupt collaborators at the detriment of those they made lofty promises to.

If you have a problem with that, then take it up with Jesus, and tell him that he's wrong, that wolves in sheep's clothing are acutally good and beneficial to have around.

Care to name any of those ... you know ... that we know who you are referring to...


Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnel and Mike Pence.
I think you have the wrong Republicans. But tell me why you believe that Lefty Christians are good peeps and righty Christians are all evil greedy warmongers? I think you should really know that it was Stalinist Russia which condemned the Church.... also, you do know that the Marxists have infiltrated the Church and that is where all this nonsense about Jesus being a socialist came from.... Marxism by nature is against religion....also one more thing is that the Church has also been co-opted by the UN ….. ever hear of the World Council of Churches?

So really, all your arguments against conservative Christians just prove my point... as I have posted before about the World Council of Churches sanitizing religion and trying to homogenize all the world's religions into one World Religion devoid of individuality and genuine truth.
Maybe its time for the scales to fall

Do not forget for one minute, however, that when WCC leaders
www.apfn.org...
I hope it won't be too hard for you to hear the truth. Here's another article articulating the connection between Rockefeller's and the NWO and One World Religion.... www.oldthinkernews.com...
Your indoctrination sounds straight out of it

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posted on Aug, 29 2018 @ 11:58 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Well since we are making bike lock jokes let me do you one better.

No worries I say. Let them bring the bike locks, we will just put the pedal to the medal.

Next time you want to make nonsensical troll threads together try not to make light of actual events.

It could be your family in the next episode of "Driving Over Miss Daisy"

But nice try.
You usually make alot of intellectual statements but this thread is pure sensationalist drivel.

Midterm "cough" I mean midlife crisis from the OP anyone?

Also rising incidents of hatecrimes against Christians and Jews and Muslims isn't a thing about to happen, it's been getting worse over the last decade or so.

I would post links but you would already know that if you ever read anything outside your favorite echo chamber on the web so I will leave you to your ignorant star and flag whoring on ATS.

Enjoy

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posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 12:03 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


I know following a conversation that is not about you, or addressed to you, can daunting, especially when your mind is filled with anti socialism paranoia violently attacking Christianity. My input in this conversation is about Christian hypocrisy, and how it has already taken Christianity.


Matthew 11:12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it.



Interestingly the title of the thread is about violence of the Left crushing Christianity, and honestly the Left has been destroying the true teachings of Christ in a steady erosion.



posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 12:55 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: theantediluvian

As opposed to Biden saying that if the Republicans win, black churches in the south will burn.

Or if the Republicans win, the children will starve.

Or if the Republicans win, they will push grandma in her wheelchair over the cliff.

Or in the latest case, if the Republicans win, the economy will crash.

Or if the Republicans win, women will not longer be in control of their health care.

Or if the Republicans win, women will be barefoot in the kitchen.

It's politics.

Same sad crap the left has toted out every election cycle.

They need new material.

As do you.



A late friend of mine was a foreign correspondent between the 30s and the 70s. He was in Spain in 36, Germany in 38, Belgium in 40, Holland and Germany in 45, Hungary in 56 etc etc.

The one thing he learned, he told me, is that the worst things never happen suddenly. They build up, slowly, one insult and one attack at a time until they reach a critical mass. Even Hitler admitted that his movement could have been stopped for good on the streets in the late 20s / early 30s.

Saying "it hasn't happened yet and it's not going to" is like the man who jumps off a cliff and says "hey, I haven't hit the ground". The price of liberty is eternal vigilance and democracy depends on everyone keeping everyone else in check.
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posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 12:59 AM
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Your opponents can wield bike locks as well. You had better be careful when you think that all people who call themselves Christians, really are Christians. Remember, the Middle Ages had men called Knights Templar's that thought they were Christians. I hear that they killed many, and made nations tremble. Not all People who call themselves Christians, are meek, weak and humble. Many may put Antifa down, because they see them as minions of the Devil.
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posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 12:59 AM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


Says you. The right, mostly, harbors the wolves masquerading as conservative Christians, while looting the public coffers, pointing their fingers of blame at the poor, the sick and the disenfranchised. Those are the true anti-Christs, those pretending that greed is charity and selfishness is patriotism, and patriotism is love of God.

That's not to say that there aren't sleezy, heart on their sleeve, weepy phoney left wing wolves dressed as liberal Christians that are purveyors of anti-chistism too. They also have their sights set on the public coffers.

Both are enemies of true Christianity and Christians who testify of their faith to the world through works, not thoughts and prayer.



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posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 01:06 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko




We live in a Constitutional Republic, not a direct Democracy, and there is a very good reason why we don't have a direct Democracy.


Wow. Do you ever stop twisting? Of course Democracy is a pillar of our society! The US seeks to protect and promote Democracy around the world, and has declared foreign interference in US elections an attack on our Democracy. Are you saying that's "no big deal" because we're also a Republic?



posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 01:26 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ketsuko




We live in a Constitutional Republic, not a direct Democracy, and there is a very good reason why we don't have a direct Democracy.


Wow. Do you ever stop twisting? Of course Democracy is a pillar of our society! The US seeks to protect and promote Democracy around the world, and has declared foreign interference in US elections an attack on our Democracy. Are you saying that's "no big deal" because we're also a Republic?




Traditionally it has but in more recent time's the CIA with it's drug and weapon's smuggling side lines was actually promoting anti socialism not democracy, they propped up multiple dictators whom were never democratically elected and even orchestrated several coup's against unfavorable leaders whom were democratically elected.

(even being tacitly involved in a coup plot in the UK but they were then able to bring down the then Labour government using dirty trick's instead
www.thelondoneveningpost.com... )

Don't mistake Democracy for Capitalism they are actually NOT the same thing, one is run by the free will of people and the other by big money in the hand's of a tiny minority and is actually far less democratic even than extreme communism if such a thing is possible.

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posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 02:12 AM
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The violence of the left is there for all to see.
Antifa are the face of the left and will be empowered to attack with impunity.
Let's remember that BLM got invited to the Whitehouse as a reward for calling for cops to be killed.
All leftist regimes need a violent gang on the ground to keep people in check.



posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 04:12 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell
We have arrived at the vilest possibility imaginable already in Donald Trumps presidency

With Trump we have the worst on all levels, nothing could be worse


Thank you, my friend. Seriously. This is a HUGE help, because it PERFECTLY illustrates what an absolute JOKE the modern "Left", and by extension, modern "Liberals", and the dregs of what we used to refer to as the "Democratic Party", and by further extension the "Anti-Trumpers" or "Never-Trumpers" or however they refer to themselves nowadays, have become.

Nothing could be worse? Really?

The vilest possibility imaginable? Seriously?

So, if you would be so kind as to indulge me, and please, feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood, are you saying that of all the possibilities that exist, or could POTENTIALLY exist, Donald Trump's presidency is "The worst on all levels".

This is what you actually believe, yes?

So you're saying that you are incapable of imagining a scenario, ANY scenario, where something worse than Trump's presidency could exist, yes?

Is it possible that you simply suffer from a serious lack of imagination?

Yes? No?

I haven't given it a lot of thought, but if I really put my mind to it, I can't help but think I could come up with at LEAST a couple of things.

You see, people say this stuff, and you really can't fathom why other members would find it difficult, or perhaps even impossible to take someone (not you, of course, I mean OTHER people) who would say something like that seriously?

Really?

So you actually believe what you say, as opposed to just spouting random Trump-hate?

And you really think that TDS is nothing more than a conservative illusion?

Because, to be honest, I find it absolutely FASCINATING...


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posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 04:20 AM
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you do know that the Marxists have infiltrated the Church and that is where all this nonsense about Jesus being a socialist came from


Is this a joke? Marxists are what .00000001 percent of America and mostly located in college dorm rooms?

People say Jesus was a socialist because his teachings were mainly liberal.



posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 05:10 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


Says you. The right, mostly, harbors the wolves masquerading as conservative Christians, while looting the public coffers,


no, the conservatives are the ones working and paying the taxes. the leftists are 'looting the public coffers'.


pointing their fingers of blame at the poor, the sick and the disenfranchised.


the impoverished vote with enthusiasm, hence democrat rule in most large cities.
young women choose to have babies without husbands. this is immoral and anti-Christian. do we not have a right to point that out? young men leave school and get into drugs and crime. do we not have a right to object? how many welfare mothers and drug rehabs are we supposed to pay for?


Those are the true anti-Christs, those pretending that greed is charity and selfishness is patriotism, and patriotism is love of God.

how many jobs are created by 'selfish' businesspersons who want to make money? how many goods and services?
this is the normal function of mankind. all over the world people get up in the morning and make things and do things and earn money. its what human beings do.
a lot of these 'greedy' business people are contributing to real charities. leftist idea of charity is giving away other peoples money.


That's not to say that there aren't sleezy, heart on their sleeve, weepy phoney left wing wolves dressed as liberal Christians that are purveyors of anti-chistism too. They also have their sights set on the public coffers.

Both are enemies of true Christianity and Christians who testify of their faith to the world through works, not thoughts and prayer.

sure



posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 05:30 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian





Does who get a pass and from whom would they be given it?

This is some of the most toxic identity politicking there is and it's unfortunately ubiquitous but I try to avoid it as much as possible. It's a simple game for sheep: divide society into "us" and "them" along arbitrary lines so that it's possible to obsessively focus on the worst of the worst among "them" to besmirch the opposition while ignoring similar examples within one's own tribe or better, carefully curate one's tribe so that the worst folks are conveniently outside of it.

For instance, you brought up the nut who shot Scalise and Antifa (like Trump) to hold them out as presumed examples of typical left-wingers or as evidence of a significant trend on the left. What about the Right? Do you include violent extremists like the one who ran down Heather Heyer in your tribe? How about the psycho who stabbed two men to death (a recent college grad and any Army vet) when the intervened in his attack on two teenage Muslims girls on a Portland commuter train? Or the guy who traveled to NY last year and stabbed a 66 year-old black man to death in some bizarre plot to stop interracial relationships?

I could go on and on but why? I don't want to be in that trap with you. I don't assume that you have any association to them. I'm not judging you by their actions or accusing you of giving them a pass. You should do the same for me and the other 99.9999% of the Left who isn't engaged in political violence.


there is no organized violence, political or otherwise, on the right.
nor is anyone on the right calling for public harassment of leftists, as Maxine Waters does.
I'm not saying the majority of the left is violent but its a significant minority. more importantly, major leftist leaders rarely criticize this violence, nor are they often prosecuted. no accident they do these things in democrat cities where they know they'll be safe.




I gave you an example and he's not a lone outlier. Kevin Swanson hosted the National Religious Liberties Conference. That conference was attended by Sen. Ted Cruz (and his nutty father), ex-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (and Fox News personality and father of the WH spox) and Bobby Jindal who was at the time, Governor of Louisiana.

Do you need me to name some other similar figures and detail their associations with mainstream Republicans?


are you seriously suggesting that any significant number of Republicans is advocating violence towards gays? or just one or two nuts? if you did your research you'd know that Sen Cruz and Gov Huckabee attended that function in good faith not knowing what the guy was going to advocate. have you heard either of them going around advocating any violence? no.




No, I'm not in favor of the government forcing Christians to do work that violates their beliefs.

that's exactly what you are in favor of.

If you don't want to sell cakes to gay people, then don't operate a bakery that does business with the public. Nobody is forcing anyone to run a bakery, least of all the government. What they're doing is protecting the right of gay people to be full members of the society that makes that bakery's existence possible.

I'm sure you're familiar with the saying, "Your rights end where mine begin" ?

You can practice your faith right up until the practice of it unduly impinges on the rights of others. Just like you can't go around kidnapping and murdering people if your religion allows it. Nobody has a religious right to deny other people their rights.

circular logic. the baker is not obligated to do work that violates his beliefs. so your suggestion is he not be a baker?
show me where any customer has a right to demand someone to do work he/she objects to.
how on earth can you compare not baking a cake to 'kidnapping and murdering people'?
not baking a cake is 'unduly impinging' on a right? nonsense.



Now you want to talk about fake Christians? Donald Trump is leader of the Republican party. He's cheated on every wife he's ever had. How's that for "Christian values?"

ditto Bill Clinton and just about any Kennedy. good luck finding perfection.
VP Pence won't dine along with another woman. he got mocked for antedeluvian values. no matter what conservatives do they get trashed.



You can be sure of whatever you want, but that's your opinion and your speculation and it's not anything that can be reasonably debated.

It's not my opinion that Donald Trump is running around telling evangelical leaders that he "got rid of" the Johnson Amendment. That's a fact. It's also a fact that he did not "get rid of" the Johnson Amendment and that it would be beyond his power to do so. And if you read the EO, he didn't even do anything substantive to block enforcement.

If and when these pastors act upon this disinformation, violate the law and predictably find their churches at risk of losing their tax-exempt status because of it, will that be an "attack on Christians?"


this Johnson amendment sounds scary. whatever it is.



Then you were too young to realize what was happening in the world or otherwise living in a bubble. I can name about 3 dozen people who were murdered as part of the Civil Rights movement in the 60's alone, including a number of political assassinations. That's just the murders in one decade. The individual acts of violence are uncountable.

We're nowhere near the violent, unhinged, hate fueled response of white conservatives to the end of segregation and Jim Crow laws.

that point I'll concede. I don't know about 'uncountable' number of incidents though. happily all that segregationist stuff ended. antifa is still around.
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posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: ElGoobero
no, the conservatives are the ones working and paying the taxes.


Just Conservatives?

I posted this elsewhere:

The top ten states that are net contributors using the most recent data from 2016, paying more in taxes to the Federal Government than they receive, in descending order are (with the past thee Presidential votes in brackets):
  • Delaware (D/D/D)
  • Minnesota (D/D/D)
  • Illinois (D/D/D)
  • Nebraska (R/R/R)
  • Ohio (R/D/D)
  • Kansas (R/R/R)
  • New York (D/D/D)
  • Colorado (R/D/D)
  • Utah (R/R/R)
  • New Jersey (D/D/D)


The top ten states that are the largest recipients of Federal tax dollars ranked from largest recipient down are:
  • South Carolina (R/R/R)
  • North Dakota (R/R/R)
  • Florida (R/D/D)
  • Louisiana (R/R/R)
  • Alabama (R/R/R)
  • Hawaii (D/D/D)
  • Mississippi (R/R/R)
  • New Mexico (D/D/D)
  • Kentucky (R/R/R)
  • West Virginia (R/R/R)





posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 06:26 AM
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Oh come on, play fair with the fellow! You can't be bringing trifling things like facts into the equation!



Great post!



posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 06:34 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
Oh come on, play fair with the fellow! You can't be bringing trifling things like facts into the equation!



Great post!


By far the largest welfare queen is conservative South Carolina but there are mooches from both sides, just like there are net contributors from both sides. When you are that much of a partisan the facts become irrelevant.





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posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 07:13 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ketsuko




We live in a Constitutional Republic, not a direct Democracy, and there is a very good reason why we don't have a direct Democracy.


Wow. Do you ever stop twisting? Of course Democracy is a pillar of our society! The US seeks to protect and promote Democracy around the world, and has declared foreign interference in US elections an attack on our Democracy. Are you saying that's "no big deal" because we're also a Republic?




I'm not twisting. I am reading the Constitution.

The Electoral College system is not a direct democracy. The system whereby the House of Representatives was set up was the only directly democractic chamber of the national government. Not even Senators were by direct democractic election until an Amendment changed that because they were the representatives of their state governments *not* the people of the states; that was the job of House representatives who directly elected by the representatives.

And the president was elected by Electoral College which is a mix of the two systems because he is a representative of both and not directly of either. So a direct democratic election would not be a true selection process for what he actually is.

If you think what I said is "twisting" then someone dropped the ball when they taught you basic Civics.



posted on Aug, 30 2018 @ 07:18 AM
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And don't mistake capitalism for cronyism. Capitalism is not a political system.

It is simply a means of exchange of goods and services that lets everyone end up more or less with the things they want and need. That makes it something tyrants seek to control as much as possible which is why you have systems like communism and socialism that make utopian promises they can never deliver. They look good on paper, but you will never, ever find the right people to run those systems because the despots and power mongers and control freaks like the idea of controlling everything everyone else will ever want or need for their own selfish and despotic ends both to enrich themselves and to impoverish and control what others may or may not do.

This is why having a free market is best. It will let at least some escape from that abuse. But the more you let entities control it, the more you will see abuse of it, no matter how benevolent your intent.



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