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Democratic Socialism is a Scam

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posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:02 PM
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This is an interesting article written by a Cuban American democrat Giancarlo Sopo who has first hand experience on the results of socialism and has worked on democrat campaigns including Obama's.

Democratic Socialism is a Scam

A little background.

When I attended a rally with my family in Little Havana for then-Senator Barack Obama in 2007, our old neighborhood greeted both us and the future 44th president as if we were traitors. Older, conservative protestors yelled “Comunistas!” at us from across the Miami-Dade County Auditorium. We brushed off the attacks because we knew they came from understandably traumatized exiles and, to paraphrase the late Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, as Cuban Americans, we know socialism when we see it. Obama was no socialist.



My mom came to this country shortly before I was born and worked as a social worker while she studied English. The pay wasn’t great, and she sometimes had to work a second job, but the hours were flexible and she had good healthcare benefits for our family. After 15 years, she was able to save enough money to start a small business and move us out of our modest duplex off Calle Ocho and into Miami’s middle-class suburbs.


He describes the inevitable end results of those who get stuck under a totalitarian socialist regime.

Given our humble immigrant roots, student loan debt, and monthly medical expenses, you’d figure that democratic socialists like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would appeal to us—but they do not...the policies of democratic socialists would have shackled us to the duplex where I was raised. I know this to be true because that is exactly what happened to the loved ones my grandparents left behind in socialist Cuba. They died in the same place where they were born.


He also explains the difference between the northern Europe version of social democracy and the banana republic brand of socialism the left is currently indoctrinating America's youth into.


In a classic bait-and-switch scam, democratic socialist politicians and their allies in the media are hoping that Americans confuse them for Nordic social democrats. While the terms are phonetically similar, those of us who have worked and spent time in Latin America understand that this is more than a misnomer. The ideology and policies of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), which include an end to profits and “democratizing” the means of production, are much more like those of Havana and Caracas than Helsinki and Copenhagen.




The problem is not, as some say, that “democratic socialism” has not been tried and that only they know how to get it right; it’s that, by design, it makes economies fail and societies susceptible to totalitarianism. Just like 1959 Castro and 1998 Chavez, U.S. socialists stress their commitment to democracy, but human nature is a stubborn thing. Why should Americans trust that America’s socialists would be any more willing to relinquish power than their ideological brethren in Latin America and across the world? Indeed, it is odd that those who argue President Trump has authoritarian tendencies, are often the same people who want to give the federal government even more power over our economy.


I don't want to copy and paste the whole thing but it is a very well done piece I highly recommend you read the entire article.

I believe this is very important to understand and prepare for. At some point the US political pendulum is going to swing back to the left whether it's in 2020 or 2024. And these socialists are waiting in the wings to destroy our American way of life so they can more easily consolidate power and they are doing so by manipulating the gullible and socializing our youth by smoke and mirrors and appeals to emotion.

If we're not careful, we will look around and wonder how all of America ended up looking like Detroit.




posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

Spot on. My dad hates Democrat socialist policies ... But will vote anyone with a D.

How did America get to a place where the majority of Democrats want the government to control their life.
edit on 26-8-2018 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn


It's the new fad grandpa! Get with the program.





posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:21 PM
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Different people interpret "democratic socialism" in different ways. If it is taken as a highly centralised economy a la the Marxist-Leninist (Soviet) goal, with some sort of democratic structure on top then it is unachievable. It's unachievable because given a vote most people would not wish for intrusive central control, so democracy would force change.

The problem with "democratic socialism" is the inclusion of the word "democratic".

If people mean "democratic socialism" as a wishy-washy, half-way house which is ill defined then who knows. Pick your level.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:30 PM
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How did America get to a place where the majority of Democrats want the government to control their life.


How did we get to a place where the Majority of Republicans want Corporations to control our lives??

You're looking at it totally backwards, we want the government to stop business and the wealthy from controlling and ruining our lives.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: CB328



How did America get to a place where the majority of Democrats want the government to control their life.


How did we get to a place where the Majority of Republicans want Corporations to control our lives??

You're looking at it totally backwards, we want the government to stop business and the wealthy from controlling and ruining our lives.


You realize you are parroting the talking points by the MSM RUN and owned by 3 to 4 globalist CORPORATIONS? lmao



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

You realize you are doing the corporatist/actual globalist work for them right?

I stand against corporate takeover no matter who says it.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:37 PM
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I have a gentle guillotine.
Anyone want to try it?
Democracy and socialism are incompatible.
Anyone thinking you can synthesize the 2 is delusional.
Just another way to get you to give up your power.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: CB328

You can claim peaches and cream here all day.

But the Democrat Socialist Party is running on a militant revolutionary platform for Govt takeover of all business.

We will end up like Venezuela. Only we'll have a cute Bronx girl and all her cousins running the country into the ground while we all starve.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

Such drama. There is no socialist party here in the USA. The "left" in the US, which isn't leftist by any definition are center-right corporatists just like the extreme corporatist right wing. But fear mongering for the win right?



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: okrian

If you choose to be willfully ignorant of the events transpiring around you, that's your decision.

But years from now, when you wake up in your federally mandated 50 Sq ft equality living cube to go stand in the bread line, you're going to wish you hadn't stuck your head in the ground.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

You are only proving my point about fear mongering and drama.

But hey, keep on fighting for those corporations, they need less regulation so they can buy more governments and write more laws to protect themselves. Shouldn't be too hard to strip out our only safeguard against them seeing as we have the biggest corporatist/globalist in history as president.

That's what's actually "transpiring around you".
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posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 03:37 PM
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Any thread with the word "socialism" in it that is written by folks in the US is pointless. You always always get it wrong!



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 03:51 PM
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it is odd that those who argue President Trump has authoritarian tendencies, are often the same people who want to give the federal government even more power over our economy.



LOL

So our choices are to accept his authoritarian ways or be socialist?

How about we get some controls over the monopoly corporations.

We have laws on the books against such but we choose to ignore them.

Our current capitalist system is like a sporting event where the winners get to continue to beat everybody up forever. Perhaps once you win the game you could quit playing the same game and let the free market work.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: okrian

If you choose to be willfully ignorant of the events transpiring around you, that's your decision.

But years from now, when you wake up in your federally mandated 50 Sq ft equality living cube to go stand in the bread line, you're going to wish you hadn't stuck your head in the ground.

Really do you believe that corporations keep us from being in an equality living home?

You know that is not correct.

There can be capitalism without monopolistic corporations.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: yorkshirelad
Any thread with the word "socialism" in it that is written by folks in the US is pointless. You always always get it wrong!



Then perhaps you could try reading the OP and the Article, as I believe your point is actually what the OP is addressing.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: okrian

If you choose to be willfully ignorant of the events transpiring around you, that's your decision.

But years from now, when you wake up in your federally mandated 50 Sq ft equality living cube to go stand in the bread line, you're going to wish you hadn't stuck your head in the ground.

Really do you believe that corporations keep us from being in an equality living home?

You know that is not correct.

There can be capitalism without monopolistic corporations.


I never said that, This thread is about the consequences of socialism and the attempts by the leftists to whitewash those consequences by playing with words.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: okrian

If you choose to be willfully ignorant of the events transpiring around you, that's your decision.

But years from now, when you wake up in your federally mandated 50 Sq ft equality living cube to go stand in the bread line, you're going to wish you hadn't stuck your head in the ground.

Really do you believe that corporations keep us from being in an equality living home?

You know that is not correct.

There can be capitalism without monopolistic corporations.


I never said that, This thread is about the consequences of socialism and the attempts by the leftists to whitewash those consequences by playing with words.


Are there two of you cause i definitely got it from your post.




But years from now, when you wake up in your federally mandated 50 Sq ft equality living cube to go stand in the bread line, you're going to wish you hadn't stuck your head in the ground.


You definitely insinuated that the only answer to the socialist crap is the corporation crap.

I like neither but perhaps you had a different meaning with your comment and i missed it totally.

Truth is that the repubs protect corporations and the dems try to play robin hood. We need something in between.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 04:46 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky

Unbridled capitalism is not the answer. But socialism has proven over and over again to be far more hazardous to freedom and prosperity.

But you go ahead and keep assuming things, you can't make yourself look like any more of an ass than you already have. You might as well double down.



posted on Aug, 26 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: howtonhawky

Unbridled capitalism is not the answer. But socialism has proven over and over again to be far more hazardous to freedom and prosperity.

But you go ahead and keep assuming things, you can't make yourself look like any more of an ass than you already have. You might as well double down.



Why so personal and judgmental?

Please tell me how socialism has been proven to be less hazardous than capitalism.

What examples of capitalism are you referring too?

I do understand where socialism has failed but what are your capitalist examples?

I do not think the usa is a good example since we have so much regulation and socialism in place.



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