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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: CanadianMason
Some Freemasons might have appeared "on the scene", sure; we do like to serve our communities in various capacities but, for Q to ask this question seems more to me like Q was trying to implicate our involvement in "shooting locations" in some way.
And the operative word is "seems." We really don't know Q's purpose so it's all speculation. Folks can go whatever direction they want, but it says more about themselves than anyone else. What else could Q's purpose have been? Perhaps Q's purpose is to seemingly implicate the Masons, only for Q to later reveal them as heroes in this saga. Perhaps Q's purpose is to seemingly implicate the Masons to give a false sense of security to the guilty that Team Trump is looking in the wrong direction. Perhaps Q is actually calling out a practice of impersonatiing/infiltrating Freemasonry by some for sinister purposes. We really don't know at this point.
I do believe that such tactics are part of Q's overall strategy. Perhaps a dual strategy or purpose: Encouraging Qsters to research Freemasonry/Masons in order to better understand something later, and a message to someone else regarding their association with Freemasonry.
Moreover, Q's next sentence, "Symbolism will be their downfall" links Freemasons to the rest of Q's Grand Narrative, as being a part of some secret cabal of satan-worshipping ring of pedophiles.
Perhaps. Perhaps not. Another possibility: Freemasons know the symbols of freemasonry best, would you agree? Let's imagine that there are fake Masons -- or "Masons In Name Only" -- who are participating in these dirty deeds and using Masonic symbolism in the process. So someone comes up with numerous pics of these "Masons" at these events. But good Masons start checking out these pics real close and find that many of these "Masons" are all wearing another symbol not associated with Masonry. Which leads them to start checking out these individuals -- not as Masons, but looking for other associations or whatever red flags come up.
But Q puts it out there the way he does so that the bad "Masons" think they're safe... all the while hoping someone (a Mason) sees the anomolies or inconsistencies or something.
This is just one possibility.
It's dangerous and irresponsible of Q to do this sort of thing. It's an open question, and an invitation to potential hatred of a group with potentially violent consequences for us.
I can't argue with that. Especially in today's political/social climate. However, that's all on the people and how they interpret Q.
May I ask, have you researched that angle any further to see what you can see? Maybe you won't find anything significant, but maybe you will. Maybe you could put that Q comment in a whole new light for all of us. Maybe you'll find good cause to believe that some sinister folks are exploiting the Masons for their dirty deeds, and maybe you can find the commonality or some identifying quality among them that sets them apart from other Masons. Like any group, there will be bad apples. Maybe not this bad! But one never knows until one knows.
Assuming that no Masons are bad is no better and no more accurate than assuming that all Masons are good.
Q is dangerous.
He might be. But Q is no different than any other propagandist, no matter how good or bad their intentions. They cannot manipulate or influence anyone without their consent and cooperation. So attacking Q is an exercise in futility. It's more practical and productive to discuss the issues brought up among us, and work together towards the greater good.
And, as I said, the red line for me is when Q starts advocating for actions that are dangerous. That hasn't happened yet.
originally posted by: PokeyJoe
a reply to: XAnarchistX
Q only referenced the usage of xbox live chat on the 15th - not the outage. The outage was discussed after the fact on the 16th.
originally posted by: PokeyJoe
a reply to: xtradimensions
How are we supposed to prove that, short of having their gamer tags, or a picture of the console in their house?
originally posted by: pavil
If anyone of you checked out Elsagate and that sort of stuff on YT, the comments sections are sometimes almost certainly people talking in code about the "Subject we can not talk about". Very creepy people posting creepy stuff on creepy videos.
I wouldn't doubt in a game, you could make a group, then switch to group chat and it would be pretty secure, especially if you talk in code there as well. You'd probably either pick a very obscure game or a very popular one to escape notice.
I doubt the NSA is even tracking that sort of stuff, or at least they weren't initially.
originally posted by: pavil
It seems McCains death was a starting point for maybe the next phase of this, why? Was McCain that important to things?
originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: pavil
He was the Judas Goat
Secret Service Special Agent Todd Madison, a.k.a. “Hillary’s handler,” died at a Wisconsin hospital on December 8, 2017, at age 49 after serving 20 years with the agency protecting some of the most high-profile countrymen and women including the Clintons during their tenure at the White House. Madison who was also employed by K2 Intelligence is best known for allegedly being Hillary Clinton’s medical handler and was publically ousted by the media after physically helping Clinton into what appeared to be a custom medical van after she collapsed while leaving a 9/11 Memorial Ceremony at Ground Zero in Ne
Its just, personally.. If i see a subject with 11 threads. I dont start by asking people what I missed.. I read the 10 previous threads, enjoy that ATS still offers something of value and try to contribute.
originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
originally posted by: pavil
It seems McCains death was a starting point for maybe the next phase of this, why? Was McCain that important to things?
He might have been. I was just reading a news article talking about how after McCain's death there doesn't seem to be any major interventionists left in congress. Hopefully, this means the days of the United States being dragged into every war across the globe are in the past.
Sometimes I keep my thoughts to myself. Its best in the long run. I know some of you might find that questionable, but true. Email services that are NSA proof? Then I suppose Hillary and all her bunch are using it. Sweet!
originally posted by: NightFlight
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: xtradimensions
I know Q mentioned ps3 and Xbox live previously...what is the conventional wisdom about the importance about these methods of chatting?
Who ever was using these "Rat Lines" for communication about nefarious subjects, did so believing them to escape NSA surveillance. The very fact that these forms of communication are brought up at all, means the NSA also snared all those messages. I assume.
Who would use such comm lines? a whole gambit of "Players"
Now, there are subscription e-mail services that guarantee the emails are secure even from the NSA. Start Page has one and duckduckgo will pull up several more.
originally posted by: butcherguy
Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but remember the big dude that ghosted Hillary during the 2016 campaign with an epi-pen in his hand in case she had a seizure?
Yeah.... He’s dead.
Ripe old age of 49.
Intellihub
Secret Service Special Agent Todd Madison, a.k.a. “Hillary’s handler,” died at a Wisconsin hospital on December 8, 2017, at age 49 after serving 20 years with the agency protecting some of the most high-profile countrymen and women including the Clintons during their tenure at the White House. Madison who was also employed by K2 Intelligence is best known for allegedly being Hillary Clinton’s medical handler and was publically ousted by the media after physically helping Clinton into what appeared to be a custom medical van after she collapsed while leaving a 9/11 Memorial Ceremony at Ground Zero in Ne
It first helped Nokia and Motorola find $2.7 billion that had been invested with Turkey's Cem Uzan. It was also hired to recover wealth that had been plundered by dictators, including the Philippines' Ferdinand Marcos and Haiti's Jean-Claude Duvalier. In 1991 the government of Kuwait hired it to trace Saddam Hussein's corporate holdings around the world, including Hachette in Franc