Looks like our boys saw something cool out there

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: Zaphod58

jesus that's awful! It always shocks me when people wish death on other people.

i think it's safe to say that there are measures that can be taken to really really hide an aircraft from the public if they wish. I can think of at least two bases off hand that if they were sent the men and some of the equipment there would be no issues, and with the blow up hangers they have for the B2 that opens up the possibility whatever this is could be way out of the public's gaze.

the B21 and 180 are what i would consider to be gray projects at this point, they are going to be in the public so no biggie, as we know there are somethings that had no press releases and are still a secret to this day.

Or, as my Dad used to say, "If you saw it, it's because they let you see it."

Do how we know that it's a B809D-1 GPU? I mean, is that the only one they use

a reply to: C0bzz

It's the common unit used. There are other units out there, but they're used for other purposes. We had one for VIP aircraft that had to be plugged into the ground on one end and the aircraft on the other, but you could barely hear it running.

Using my own scale I got the following:

103/(3.74/32.42)/12*2 = 148.8 feet (from tip of nose, this is an overestimate).




The hard part is gauging the center of the span, as the aircraft is at an angle, due to trigonometry, simply picking the tip of the nose will give overestimate. In addition, in some images (but not necessarily the one we are analyzing - there are multiple images) the tips of the wings appear to have disappeared. On the other hand, the wing tip is exactly where we expect in the specific we are analyzing, because it's near where the spoileron has drooped.

It's parked where a B-2 parks, there was a B-2 on-base at the time. I'm going with likely a B-2, but it could be something else. There are substantial margins of error in our analysis's.

I also rotated the image so the aircraft is level.

It looks as though the diagonal bit where the nose landing gear should be might be the stairs as shown in this photo. Perhaps the lighting has made the nose gear itself disappear.

upload.wikimedia.org...

a reply to: drwire

The access ladder on the B-2 is on the left side of the aircraft when facing forward. Therefore if it's a B-2 and that diagonal "thing" is the access ladder, then the aircraft has to be facing towards the camera, which lines up with the satellite photo in the aviationist article.

a reply to: C0bzz

that's a ladder goign down to the right.

the gear is to the left of your line there.

a reply to: grey580

I've marked in green what I think are the bay doors. In blue what I think is where the nose gear should go (but has disappeared due to lighting).



Agree?

a reply to: C0bzz

If you came up with roughly 149 feet, and that's an overestimate, then even if it's parked where the B-2 parks, and there's a B-2 on base, then it still doesn't match the B-2.

a reply to: C0bzz

I found this. it might help. has some geometry in there.

www.dept.aoe.vt.edu...




And that landing gear on the right is bugging the hell out of me doesn't look right.

And it seems thinner. But that might be distortion. Like it's almost a b-2.

Not sure if I got this right.

But it's close

a reply to: grey580

The 800 pound gorilla in the room that everyone is ignoring is that now three people have come up with a wingspan that is too short for a B-2. So we're just going to ignore that to make a B-2 fit?

a reply to: Zaphod58

No. I just wanted to compare.

However look at the air inlet.

It seems smaller and a different shape.

Aircraft is thinner as well.

Looks like the Northrop Grumman 2038 LRSB B-3
(had the made it) Squared intakes and all .

originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
Looks like the Northrop Grumman 2038 LRSB B-3
(had the made it) Squared intakes and all .

Umm the LRSB is the B-21 not B-3, unless I’m missing something.
I keep looking at the shot and it’s still off definently something interesting.

a reply to: BigDave-AR

The 2038 is a different system

Your right the raider is/was the lrsb

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: BigDave-AR

The 2038 is a different system

Your right the raider is/was the lrsb

Ah well at least I was partially correct, thanks for the heads up bud!

a reply to: Zaphod58

Not enough imagination on what this is(not a B2)

I knew what this is would end up being manned near to see that confrontation(in my opinion)

The Amarillo bird?

a reply to: BigDave-AR

I just think of the Raider as the B-2.1 so I can justify the name.

a reply to: wirehead
Amarillo looks more triangular than the B2 in wingplan.