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WSJ: How exactly did Cohen break the law?

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posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:26 PM
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There seems to be a lot of ignorance on ATS currently. Folks thinking Cohen didn’t break a law, or that it isn’t relevant to Trump.

The Wall Street Journal, a conservative paper, explains this:

“Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former personal lawyer, pleaded guilty this week to eight federal crimes, including tax evasion, making false statements to a bank and campaign-finance violations. The plea capped a monthslong investigation into his business dealings and implicated the president in the campaign-related payments.

Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty to willfully causing an unlawful corporate campaign contribution and making an excessive campaign contribution. Each of those counts carries a maximum of five years in prison. With the banking and tax counts, he could have faced up to 65 years in prison. Under the deal, he would be sentenced to no more than five years in prison, with a fine of $20,000 to $1 million. He was released on $500,000 bond.
The facts of the first count are that Mr. Cohen arranged for American Media Inc. to pay $150,000 in August 2016 to former Playboy model Karen McDougal. She claimed to have had an affair with Mr. Trump a decade earlier (denied by Mr. Trump’s representatives), and the AMI payment precluded her from going public with her story. Prosecutors consider that payment an in-kind contribution to the campaign.

Corporations are prohibited from making any donations to campaigns, either directly with money or “in-kind” by providing something of value.
The facts of the second count are that Mr. Cohen personally paid $130,000 to a second woman, Stephanie Clifford, a former adult-film actress known professionally as Stormy Daniels, in October 2016, to prevent her from talking about her claim of having an affair with Mr. Trump a decade earlier, something Mr. Trump has denied.




Link : apple.news..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">Article




posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka

Here is what Mark Levin, the best constitutional lawyer in the country has to say about it.




posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: HunkaHunka

Here is what Mark Levin, the best constitutional lawyer in the country has to say about it.




this guy is smart as they come. he is not a special pleader for Trump either....has been a harsh critic of his on occasion, especially on tariffs. I trust his opinion and that of the former FEC chair that he had on his show the other day more than what I have been hearing on the MSM
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posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:42 PM
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This thread isn't going as well as your last one on the subject.

If you don't find anything suspicious about this plea agreement and the situation surrounding it, clearly you suffer from TDS

No star no flag
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posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct

You know what’s better than the best constitutional lawyer in the country?

A judge.



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka

Non of those are ever crooked eh?



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka

What judge has said trump is guilty?



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct


What a beautiful takedown



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: HunkaHunka
a reply to: Alien Abduct

You know what’s better than the best constitutional lawyer in the country?

A judge.



That doesn't even make any sense at all. You better go see a Doc, that TDS is making you delusional.



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:50 PM
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edit on 8/23/2018 by Alien Abduct because: Nvm



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:53 PM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka


The only ignorance on full display is on the left. You guys only know emotion and have ceased to use logic and fact.



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct


Every legal expert who doesn't have an axe to grind against Trump, agrees with Mark Levin. They point to the Federal Campaign Donation rules as the source. That source is the same that any Federal judge must turn to.

This is why the accusation of illegal campaign contributions by Trump, was replaced today with soap-opera type B.S. on CNN and MSNBC...and by Fox News's Sheppard Smith. In other words, they've gone back to the same "lets hope and pray, cause we got no plan for winning."



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Alien Abduct


Every legal expert who doesn't have an axe to grind against Trump, agrees with Mark Levin. They point to the Federal Campaign Donation rules as the source. That source is the same that any Federal judge must turn to.

This is why the accusation of illegal campaign contributions by Trump, was replaced today with soap-opera type B.S. on CNN and MSNBC...and by Fox News's Sheppard Smith. In other words, they've gone back to the same "lets hope and pray, cause we got no plan for winning."


It seems pretty obvious there were other charges available to made that were dropped to allow him to plea. You can also bet that Cohen gave up some info of great value in exchange.



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

Exactly... this is far from a nothing burger



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka


you know that there are all these other charges how exactly?



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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Blackmail makes people do illegal things on purpose.




posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Alien Abduct


Every legal expert who doesn't have an axe to grind against Trump, agrees with Mark Levin. They point to the Federal Campaign Donation rules as the source. That source is the same that any Federal judge must turn to.

This is why the accusation of illegal campaign contributions by Trump, was replaced today with soap-opera type B.S. on CNN and MSNBC...and by Fox News's Sheppard Smith. In other words, they've gone back to the same "lets hope and pray, cause we got no plan for winning."


It seems pretty obvious there were other charges available to made that were dropped to allow him to plea. You can also bet that Cohen gave up some info of great value in exchange.


I think this campaign finance story is nothing

However, I would be shocked that any billionaires lawyer of over a decade didn’t have some dirt on his client, so there will probably be other stories to come that are more serious



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: HunkaHunka There seems to be a lot of ignorance on ATS currently. Folks thinking Cohen didn’t break a law, or that it isn’t relevant to Trump. The Wall Street Journal, a conservative paper, explains this: “Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former personal lawyer, pleaded guilty this week to eight federal crimes, including tax evasion, making false statements to a bank and campaign-finance violations. The plea capped a monthslong investigation into his business dealings and implicated the president in the campaign-related payments. Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty to willfully causing an unlawful corporate campaign contribution and making an excessive campaign contribution. Each of those counts carries a maximum of five years in prison. With the banking and tax counts, he could have faced up to 65 years in prison. Under the deal, he would be sentenced to no more than five years in prison, with a fine of $20,000 to $1 million. He was released on $500,000 bond. The facts of the first count are that Mr. Cohen arranged for American Media Inc. to pay $150,000 in August 2016 to former Playboy model Karen McDougal. She claimed to have had an affair with Mr. Trump a decade earlier (denied by Mr. Trump’s representatives), and the AMI payment precluded her from going public with her story. Prosecutors consider that payment an in-kind contribution to the campaign. Corporations are prohibited from making any donations to campaigns, either directly with money or “in-kind” by providing something of value. The facts of the second count are that Mr. Cohen personally paid $130,000 to a second woman, Stephanie Clifford, a former adult-film actress known professionally as Stormy Daniels, in October 2016, to prevent her from talking about her claim of having an affair with Mr. Trump a decade earlier, something Mr. Trump has denied. ” Link : apple.news..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">Article

So if your own brother robs a bank, defrauds people, you will also be guilty too?

So you are your brother's keeper?

The Mark Levin statements shown below yours by another poster, blow your OP completely out of the water. All you are doing is parroting OPI. (Other people's ignorance).

edit on 23-8-2018 by NoCorruptionAllowed because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka

The wall street journal is absolutely NOT a conservative paper. Your link does not work, and wsj is paywalled. Oh, and Trump did not break any laws.



posted on Aug, 24 2018 @ 12:37 AM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka

Yeah he didnt break any FEC laws and we have former FEC investigators stating it. The money was private and not campaign related.


ETA - What Mark Levin said.
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