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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 07:56 PM
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So Trump is in trouble because he had his lawyer pay off a porn star so she wouldn't talk and harm his chances of being elected.

And that is illegal.


But we have congressmen using tax-payer money, (in a Congressional Hush Fund) pay off women so they won't talk and harm their chances of being elected.

And that is legal.



Can anyone explain this to me?





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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Welcome to the world of "everything is ass backwards".

The MSM has everybody squonked on this Cohen thing.

People will soon know it was blackmail by "____________" ✅

All ya gotta do is read the plea and see how they worded the "Count 7 & 8" parts.

💥😎💥


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
So Trump is in trouble because he had his lawyer pay off a porn star so she wouldn't talk and harm his chances of being elected.

And that is illegal.


But we have congressmen using tax-payer money, (in a Congressional Hush Fund) pay off women so they won't talk and harm their chances of being elected.

And that is legal.



Can anyone explain this to me?


Let me help.

When a certain person that was an Arkansas governor decided to run for President, he had a problem. Rape allegations, sexual misconduct allegations, etc. So he paid the accusers $50,000 each in return for them signing a NDA.

Perfectly legal.

When Obama broke campaign contribution laws, he was fined. Paid the fine and everything was OK.

Trump gets 2 women to sign an NDA that he had CONSENTUAL sex with, does not break campaign rules. He is evil though so NDAs are now illegal, he broke campaign laws because some Democratic lawyer hack says so and he needs to at least be impeached... if not just dragged behind Chuck Schumer's Escalade until he is dead.

What don't you understand?

Keep up!


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:05 PM
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The Congressional fund is used to settle sexual harrassment and other lawsuits. Not to keep people quiet. So it's quite different from campaign contributions. Neither Daniels or McDougal were suing Trump.


The Office of Compliance’s Awards and Settlement Fund has paid out $359,450 since fiscal 2013 to address six claims made against House-member led offices, $84,000 of which was for a sexual harassment claim, according to data released Friday by the House Administration Committee.

The OOC did not name any parties in the settlements, but Politico reported the $84,000 sexual harassment settlement was for a claim against Texas GOP Rep. Blake Farenthold.
www.rollcall.com...

But it should be more transparent.

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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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yep. if the standard is going to be "it helped the campaign", then it is hard to argue sitting Congressmen and women paying off sexual harassment NDA's with OUR MONEY, so they wouldnt be publically embarrassed for relection time wouldnt fall under the same category......then again, I say an NDA is NOT a campaign contribution, so what do I know.
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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

The Congressional fund is used to settle sexual harrassment and other lawsuits. Not to keep people quiet.



So they don't talk afterwards because they just make a pinky swear? No NDA's, no contractual agreements?

Isn't settling sexual harassment claims all about keeping the other person quiet?


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:13 PM
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Isn't settling sexual harassment claims all about keeping the other person quiet?
No. It's about settling a lawsuit by paying damages. Trump has done that too.


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

The Congressional fund is used to settle sexual harrassment and other lawsuits. Not to keep people quiet.



So they don't talk afterwards because they just make a pinky swear? No NDA's, no contractual agreements?

Isn't settling sexual harassment claims all about keeping the other person quiet?


A pinky swear and lots of OUR MONEY


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist
yep. if the standard is going to be "it helped the campaign", then it is hard to argue sitting Congressmen and women paying off sexual harassment NDA's with OUR MONEY, so they wouldnt be publically embarrassed for relection time would have to fall under the same category......then again, I say an NDA is NOT a campaign contribution, so what do I know


If the standard is "it helped the campaign" then PACs should be illegal and nobody should spend any money ON their campaign. You know, because spending money on ads, promotions, town halls, etc is, by definition "spending money to influence the election".



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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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What Congress has done is not illegal. What happened with Trump in regards to Cohen is not illegal. If anyone thinks otherwise, cite the specific law broken. One of these things should be illegal and it is not the latter. Taxes are involuntarily. Campaign contributions are voluntary.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
So Trump is in trouble because he had his lawyer pay off a porn star so she wouldn't talk and harm his chances of being elected.


Who said Trump was in trouble? I didn't even here CNN claiming his in "trouble".

Its just that his dirty laundry has been hang out to dry for everyone to see... But his the POTUS, so his got nothing to worry about... Since theirs no precedent in charging a sitting POTUS with a crime.

Though, if he wasn't the president, then I'm sure he'd be sitting right next to Cohen right now... pleading guilty.


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy


Isn't settling sexual harassment claims all about keeping the other person quiet?
No. It's about settling a lawsuit by paying damages. Trump has done that too.



Legally, I might add.

I think you missed the point of the OP.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:15 PM
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I have been wondering about this myself. I agree with others who have asked how quieting a lawsuit to keep things out of the public is actually different than what has happened here. They are still trying to get re elected, at some point in the future. Seems like most politicians try to stay in office as long as they live, anyway. I just don't get it.


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy


Isn't settling sexual harassment claims all about keeping the other person quiet?
No. It's about settling a lawsuit by paying damages. Trump has done that too.



It's about keeping the other party quiet.

You have made an attempt to distance the two, but I see more in common with the two examples than differences.


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: DBCowboy
So Trump is in trouble because he had his lawyer pay off a porn star so she wouldn't talk and harm his chances of being elected.


Who said Trump was in trouble? I didn't even here CNN claiming his in "trouble".

Its just that his dirty laundry has been hang out to dry for everyone to see... But his the POTUS, so his got nothing to worry about... Since theirs no precedent in charging a sitting POTUS with a crime.

Though, if he wasn't the president, then I'm sure he'd be sitting right next to Cohen right now... pleading guilty.



what? pretty much every cable network is accusing of Trump of violating campaign finance laws....so yeah, they are saying he is in trouble.


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: DBCowboy
So Trump is in trouble because he had his lawyer pay off a porn star so she wouldn't talk and harm his chances of being elected.


Who said Trump was in trouble? I didn't even here CNN claiming his in "trouble".

Its just that his dirty laundry has been hang out to dry for everyone to see... But his the POTUS, so his got nothing to worry about... Since theirs no precedent in charging a sitting POTUS with a crime.

Though, if he wasn't the president, then I'm sure he'd be sitting right next to Cohen right now... pleading guilty.



Actually, the precedent was set with Clinton vs Jones.

Keep up.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:20 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Exactly. Maybe a government election sign company should make the same signs and place them side by side. Having better marketing may influence a campaign. Airtime should be equal and impartial because that could influence an election, right?

What I cannot understand though, is how a channel like Comedy Central can run 4 hours of prime-time GOP bashing for 10 months straight and they do not have to register as PAC.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:20 PM
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I’m curious to see if the number of those sealed indictments jumps sharply, soon...



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

The Congressional fund is used to settle sexual harrassment and other lawsuits. Not to keep people quiet.



So they don't talk afterwards because they just make a pinky swear? No NDA's, no contractual agreements?

Isn't settling sexual harassment claims all about keeping the other person quiet?


It is difficult to find info on, but it appears that NDA arent mandatory with payouts.


Q: I read that the OOC would require me to sign a
nondisclosure agreement in order to settle my
harassment claim. Is this true?
A: No. Whether and how to settle a claim are matters
for the parties to decide. The OOC does not have any
standardized language that parties are required to include
in their settlement agreements, and it does not require
parties to include nondisclosure provisions in those
agreements. The contents of settlement agreements—
including any provisions governing disclosure—are
solely determined by the parties and their
representatives. The only statutory requirement for
settlement agreements in the CAA is that they be in
writing. Under current law, the OOC is not authorized to
release information about individual awards and
settlements.


www.compliance.gov...

Reading between the lines though, when they say an NDA is up to the parties to work out, I bet that means that is often the case.

"Sign this nda, take your 50 grand, and we are done. If you dont sign the nda, then we will take it to court"


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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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I am confused as well.. But mostly about WTF does it have to do with russia and collusion.




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