The scar of slavery on the American perspective.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: SlapMonkey

A) If you go to other countries sure, but in America the VAST MAJORITY is white identity politics. Since the majority of the population is white it is just considered politics..

Prove it with statistics, because my perception of the issue is that, at the very least, it's pretty equal. If you choose not to prove it, then you are wallowing in opinion, which means very little when you're trying to pretend that your argument is factual.

B) BWAHAHAHA

Oh that is hilarious... slavery ended less than 2 life times ago and millions of people who went through segregation are still alive today..


That is literally the dumbest thing I will read all week...

Interesting, because if you go back a read what I actually wrote (which I doubt that you will), I was talking SPECIFICALLY about slavery--you know, since your whole OP is specifically about slavery, and your title of the thread is about slavery.

Now, if you want to move the goal posts and talk about the treatment of black people and other minorities since emancipation, then please note what I said here:

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
An intelligent human being doesn't need to forgive and forget the enslavement and transgressions of people of long ago. ... I'm not excusing the way that black people have historically been treated since emancipation, but to pretend that anyone has direct ties to being a slave and must forgive and forget is downright absurd.

So, tell me this, Mr. BWAHAHAHA...where did I conflate the two?

The answer is that I didn't--I focused on slavery, because that was the topic of your own thread, but I even mentioned how they have been treated AFTER emancipation as well. But the reality is, no one alive today was never legally a slave. Period.

Prove me wrong--but since you can't, sit down and let the adults with good reading comprehension and critical thinking discuss these serious topics.

Well scratch that.. red kneck saying those who vandalized confederate statues should be executed is, but your real close..

I'm sure that I am, in your simpleton way of seeing the world.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: caterpillage

I think there is a special level of crappy in only one group being subject to slavery because of the pile on effect..

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Only blacks could be enslaved in America.. that makes them inferior to everyone else..

You, sir, are an idiot and a liar. Just for starters:

During the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries, Indian slavery, the enslavement of Native Americans by European colonists, was common. Many of these Native slaves were exported to the Northern colonies and to off-shore colonies, especially the "sugar islands" of the Caribbean. Historian Alan Gallay estimates that from 1670 to 1715, British slave traders sold between 24,000 and 51,000 Native Americans from what is now the southern part of the U.S.

The Easily-Searched Wiki Page on Slaver in The United States

And that doesn't even cover all of the different races and nationalities, like the Irish and Chinese, that suffered the plight of indentured servitude in the U.S. as well, which is just reduced slavery.

Like others have said--move on. And seriously, read that book, as it will inform you as to why stupidity like your OP and this response to me (and others of your that I've read in this thread) are part of the problem.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Oh the Inca had plenty of weapons, but they did not have steel/iron armor nor muskets and cannon.

Spanish tactics also somewhat supported the arsenal they had available as they essentially held the guy hostage until he acquiesces to there demands.

Incas thought they were Gods to begin with, Quetzalcoatl returned, how wrong the poor fellows were.

As to "Would you rather be enslaved or die?" well better to die on your feet than live on your knees, but we are all slaves really, just by another means of control.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Oh the Inca had plenty of weapons, but they did not have steel/iron armor nor muskets and cannon.

You should watch the program I watched to see what happened.
Andrew Marrs History of the World.....part 5 BBC 4.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I would just like to note, I haven't enslaved anyone, my parents haven't enslaved anyone, my grand parents or great grand parents haven't enslaved anyone. I don' t know of any slaves in the US abd haven't for generations, except those that are being sexually exploited by criminal elements.

My question is " How many generations does it take to become un-victimized?" Do I get to find an injustice to my ancestors to claim victimhood and the alleged benefits that come from being in that club?

Here's another question to the OP. Exactly what are you helping by drudging this up continually? Who benefits?

Let's take a look at African Slavery a little closer:

www.snopes.com...

You are a slave.....

Modern slavery is much more sophisticated and less obvious......

a reply to: JoshuaCox

You do realize that whites were enslaved before blacks were, right? Where is our outrage? Oh wait we don't have it because we aren't being brainwashed into thinking we are oppressed, but Democrates really love black people, sarcasm.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Don't like the BBC, nor there take on history or politics, because its skewered, and designed to spoon feed an agenda.

Plenty of other source material pertaining to the subject of superior veracity i imagine.

I'm so far into this whole white guilt stuff I even make my own coffee in the morning and drink it black!!

Strange world we live in.

HAPPY FRIDAY!!!



PS

No scar of slavery here some of us don't have time and we moved on long ago. Just like the old days prove yourself by who you are not what you are.

a reply to: andy06shake

In 1531, he sailed down to Peru, landing at Tumbes. He led his army up the Andes Mountains and on November 15, 1532, reached the Inca town of Cajamarca, where Atahuallpa was enjoying the hot springs in preparation for his march on Cuzco, the capital of his brother’s kingdom. Pizarro invited Atahuallpa to attend a feast in his honor, and the emperor accepted. Having just won one of the largest battles in Inca history, and with an army of 30,000 men at his disposal, Atahuallpa thought he had nothing to fear from the bearded white stranger and his 180 men. Pizarro, however, planned an ambush, setting up his artillery at the square of Cajamarca.

On November 16, Atahuallpa arrived at the meeting place with an escort of several thousand men, all apparently unarmed. Pizarro sent out a priest to exhort the emperor to accept the sovereignty of Christianity and Emperor Charles V., and Atahuallpa refused, flinging a Bible handed to him to the ground in disgust. Pizarro immediately ordered an attack. Buckling under an assault by the terrifying Spanish artillery, guns, and cavalry (all of which were alien to the Incas), thousands of Incas were slaughtered, and the emperor was captured.

Atahuallpa offered to fill a room with treasure as ransom for his release, and Pizarro accepted. Eventually, some 24 tons of gold and silver were brought to the Spanish from throughout the Inca empire. Although Atahuallpa had provided the richest ransom in the history of the world, Pizarro treacherously put him on trial for plotting to overthrow the Spanish, for having his half-brother Huascar murdered, and for several other lesser charges. A Spanish tribunal convicted Atahuallpa and sentenced him to die. On August 29, 1533, the emperor was tied to a stake and offered the choice of being burned alive or strangled by garrote if he converted to Christianity. In the hope of preserving his body for mummification, Atahuallpa chose the latter, and an iron collar was tightened around his neck until he died.

www.history.com...
This says what the BBC documentary said........they arrived unarmed.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Don't like the BBC, nor there take on history or politics, because its skewered, and designed to spoon feed an agenda.

Plenty of other source material pertaining to the subject of superior veracity i imagine.

But what source could be trusted?
Maybe you could provide a source that you like and trust?

a reply to: JoshuaCox



This very bright and articulate young Asian man has an interesting perspective on White Privilege. Take a look.

originally posted by: pointessa
Take a look.

Can only see an error message.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

I don't have to im already perfectly aware of what transpired back then, read and seen plenty of other programs pertaining to the topic.

Thanks for the thought all the same but stay back from that BBC, they don't just want a license fee, they want our hearts and minds.

a reply to: andy06shake

Yes they lied in the progam on the BBC and on the other site I posted a link from?

That is why I asked you for a link you trust................where is it?

originally posted by: andy06shake

Thanks for the thought all the same but stay back from that BBC, they don't just want a license fee, they want our hearts and minds.

It is not just the BBC...............Hollyweird is not BBC.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Stick with some books on the subject, more info any day of the week.

Libraries your best bet there.

Colonization is never pretty through.

originally posted by: andy06shake
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Colonization is never pretty through.

No, pillage and plunder and piracy is not pretty.....but it's Americas history.
The West was not won.................it was an unfair massacre.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

More like slaughter on par with the Nazis and Stalin really.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

More like slaughter on par with the Nazis and Stalin really.

Indeed.

originally posted by: pointessa

My question is " How many generations does it take to become un-victimized?" Do I get to find an injustice to my ancestors to claim victimhood and the alleged benefits that come from being in that club?

I'm still smarting from slavery of the Roman Empire, and it very negatively affects my ability to enjoy linguini, for the PTLD, Past Traumatic Linguini Disorder. And I can't see a Pizza Hut that I don't think, "Slavers!"