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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 09:14 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Gothmog




The games are categorized on Steam and GOG


What does this mean? I don't understand.


Steam and GOG (Good old Games) are basically the only way to purchase games for PC now (online)
Not many brick and mortar stores left

Steam
GOG

Go look at some games





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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 09:25 AM
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In my opinion
PC Gaming is better if one has a budget.
Consoles become outdated and you are stuck buying the next gen console
PCs can be upgraded(mostly for about 3 years) . You dont have to buy a new one. Just upgrade the components at leisure .

PCs have the stronger/faster/better hardware. Consoles are continuously having to catch up.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
1. What are the basic types of video games? For example, some are first person shooter, some are quest type things (not sure what this is called), some build things, come are cartoonish, etc. Is there any way to quantify these games into different basic types for someone who doesn't even know where to start?

There's genres and sub-genres... As far as shooting games go, the main thing would be first-person shooters, which is self-explanatory - you're shooting guns from a first-person perspective, as in you see from the character's perspective. Check out "Call of Duty" or "Overwatch". Some are online where you play against other players, and some are mostly single-player games.
Fighting games are exactly as they sound. Adventure games would be, for example, where you have a huge open world and have to explore and figure things out or solve puzzles - like being dropped on a huge island and having no memory and having to figure out where you are and why.
Role-playing games (rpg) center around creating a character how you want and then building and strengthening it by exploring, doing quests, killing enemies, etc. These can be either purely single-player or online with many other people, which is called an "mmorpg", or "massively multi-player online role-playing game". RPGs usually rely heavily on story-telling, choices and atmosphere to make you feel like you're the character rather than just someone playing a game. Two examples are "Divinity Original Sin 2" and "World of Warcraft".
If you like building things or being creative, two great examples of this would be "Factorio" or "Minecraft". In Factorio, you have to build up an ever-expanding and increasingly complex factory in order to eventually launch rockets into space. Minecraft is a 3d "voxel" game, where the game world is made up of 3d blocks that can be removed or placed. The world in Minecraft is infinite, so you can build or create anything you can imagine - entire cities, a replica of your own house, anything.
Simulation games are meant to be as realistic as possible - simulation racing games like "Assetto Corsa", flying games where you can learn how to fly real planes, there's even a game called "Kerbal Space Program" where you use realistic physics to figure out how to build and launch rockets and land things on the Moon.
Strategy games can be divided up mainly into real-time strategy and turn-based strategy. In real-time strategy games, like "Starcraft 2", you build up a military force while fighting enemies in real time. This heavily involves multitasking and the ability to be aware of several different things at once. Turn-based strategy games are much more relaxed, in that you take turns either with AI opponents or real people and have time to decide your next courses of action - like very advanced chess. One of the most popular turn-based strategy series is the Civilization series where you build up empires and try to achieve various victories against the other civilizations - science, cultural, religious, military, among others.
There's also casual games which involve little skill and are basically meant to be picked up and played for a few minutes here and there. "Hearthstone" is a popular casual card-battle game that only takes a minute to learn and start playing.
There's so many genres and kinds of games nowadays that it's difficult to list all of them, but hopefully I gave you an idea.


originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
2. Are all games on-line multi-player games, or are there some games you can just play by yourself?

Totally both.


originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
3. I see game consoles like Play Station and Xbox, etc. and I also see games you play on your PC. Which is better? What are the reasons to choose one over another?

Consoles are cheaper and easier. To be a PC gamer, you have to have the money to either buy a good pre-built gaming pc, or the money and knowledge to buy the individual parts and build one yourself. I built my own (kindof low-tier) and I believe it cost about $1,100. The huge benefit though is that PCs have the ability to be waaaay more powerful than consoles, meaning you can play games with better graphics and speed, etc. Many games are specific to individual platforms though, like some games are only available to Playstation, or others are only available on PC. Basically, if money is not an obstacle, get into PC gaming. It's more rewarding, imo.


originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
4. Can you just go get a game and load it up and play, or do you need like a whole living room full of other stuff? I mean, can you just use some kind of a simple game controller, or do you need like foot pedals, a helmet, VR goggles, a light saber and a robotic suit and stuff? In other words, what is a basic game set up for a noob?

It just depends what you want. If you just want to play with a controller, you can. Some people set up entire racing cockpits with a steering wheel, pedals and a shifter. It can be as simple or complex as you want - PC allows for more complexity, though.


originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
5. I read through some of the posts here and I'm stunned at some of the technical stuff I see. People talk about processing cores and video cards and "rays" and "AI" and "Neural nets" (whatever that is). I see things about latency, and rendering, and frame rates. I see posts about people buying $1,000 video cards for their computers to use on gaming. I even see things about people water cooling their PC's to keep them from 'overheating'. WOW...how would anyone even know where to start? Can you just use a stupid old laptop and a mouse or some kind of a USB connected controller, or do you have to go buy a CRAY super-computer with 2080 giga-floppies of CPU cycles per nanosecond which has a heat signature that can be seen from space and has to be cooled from a liquid nitrogen tanker parked in your driveway? Can someone break it down for me? What's the deal-eo here?

Each game will list the required hardware specs to play it. The main stats to look at are "RAM", CPU, and GPU or video card/video memory. THIS SITE will explain the basics of hardware to you. Check out THIS SITE HERE, which ranks CPUs, GPUs and RAM by their performance to get an idea.

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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
6. How do you figure out where to start? How long does it take to even get to the point where you don't get killed like once per second?

All depends on what game you're playing. Some can be picked up and mastered within minutes, others take months or even years of dedication.


originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
7. I see posts about 'cheats' and 'hacks'. I see posts about people manipulating memory registers to get advantages and using 3rd party software to give them an advantage. How would any non-gamer person ever know how to even start out as a beginner and just have fun with all that going against you? I mean, I've seen posts about people who just go on-line to jack with people (i.e. kill their own team mates, etc.) just for fun?

This usually isn't a problem. Most top games nowadays go to certain lengths to prevent hackers and cheaters. I can't remember the last time I've even encountered it.


originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
8. Are there games where you can just play against the game, and not against someone else? In other words, what if you just want to play some game, but don't want to go into some on-line world and play against 10,000 other people who you don't know...can you do this?

Tons. Pick a genre or type of game you want to play and I can give you some examples.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 10:32 AM
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I can only recommend the types of games I like and play, which are usually action/adventures and RPGs. I like games with stories. One of the absolute best games I've played is Witcher 3. There's also Horizon Zero Dawn. I've just started No Man's Sky. The Uncharted series is also very good. I played Dead Red Redemption and enjoyed it, the next one looks to be fun. And one of the funnest games is Grand Theft Auto 5



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

3. I see game consoles like Play Station and Xbox, etc. and I also see games you play on your PC. Which is better? What are the reasons to choose one over another?



Uh-oh....



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 11:12 AM
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At troll-
You can build a PC faster than and xbone or PS4 for $600 that will continue to scale without having to buy every new revision of a console and have a much more diverse and full game library. Also especially with no dial graphics card the application (in this case GeForce Experience) actually makes things a lot easier now you can select a target performance at your resolution and let the program set the settings for all of it’s supported games for you and then you can fine tune from there. PC has a lot more advantages than disadvantages these days, the consoles are just low grade gaming PCs with a dumbed down user interface and they’re a one trick pony.

originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

3. I see game consoles like Play Station and Xbox, etc. and I also see games you play on your PC. Which is better? What are the reasons to choose one over another?



Uh-oh....

Let the flame war beginith!!!!!!!1!
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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: Flesh699
If you want to get the absolute bang for your buck go with PC. There's so many games. Indie games especially, cost so much less than "mainstream" games and have much higher quality content and usually more. The choice of games is unlimited.


Totally agree, I would go for a PC. An easier gaming experience on a mouse and keyboard than a pad. If you have never played a 3d game on a pad you will probably struggle to get your head around it, where mouse and keyboard is more instinctive. This could be a killer for you and make games like shooters unplayable and put you off entirely.

You will save on money in the long run as Flesh says you will have a lot more choice of much cheaper games, easier to get hold of demos and freebies etc. and a lot cheaper over 5 or 10 years than a console.

Some of my favourite games just wouldn't be any good on a console or may never make it to consoles. Are you a strategy gamer? You don't know yet, but get a console and you never will. Civili"z"ation is a good example of this, you get to raise a society up from its first villager to building nukes etc. but it just couldn't work properly on a console, they tried, it was terrible.

Lastly, a PC is much more than a game machine. You will generally get more benefit from it. It will have its own screen too so no arguing with the wife over who gets the TV



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 11:43 AM
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1. What are the basic types of video games? For example, some are first person shooter, some are quest type things (not sure what this is called), some build things, come are cartoonish, etc. Is there any way to quantify these games into different basic types for someone who doesn't even know where to start?


That is a big question, but you can break it down into large chunks for brevities sake, and investigate from there if you like...

There are shooters of various kinds, hack and slash, sword and sorcery type games, strategy games, puzzle games, sports games, driving games, flight simulators, then you have your mobile games, and their kiddified nonsense, and the themes for all of these can run from the realistic to the absurd. But we could have two threads worth of posts on the types and differences between types of video game. Its a broad and complicated subject.



2. Are all games on-line multi-player games, or are there some games you can just play by yourself?

Not all games are online and massively multiplayer, however, its getting more and more common for games that did not need or want to be placed in the online space, to wind up there regardless of how appropriate or requested by gamers it might have been. Electronic Arts, for example, have a real problem with any game that is not either massively multiplayer, or permits them to sell upgrades to gamers, on top of the list price of the game, from within the actual software itself, meaning that the store in the game, will actually sell you some things for real world money. As a staunchly old fashioned, and basically socialist individual, I find this absolutely ghastly, and hope the person responsible for these marketing decisions is brained to death with a kerbstone. Like it or not though, its less and less common to see a good, old fashioned, single player, story driven game, with no hidden extras, being made for the sake of making good art.



3. I see game consoles like Play Station and Xbox, etc. and I also see games you play on your PC. Which is better? What are the reasons to choose one over another?

PC's can have as much power as you can afford, upgrades wise for your graphics cards and other components. This means that you can have faster, better graphical output with a PC, assuming its set up right. However, consoles provide a great number of gamers with the exact same equipment spec, meaning that games that work on one PS4, for example, will work on ALL PS4's with no advantage held by any one player, as a result of an enhanced machine. This means that everyone can run the same games, at the same speed. Its also more convenient than a PC, because most games just install themselves, then you run them. With PC gaming, sometimes you end up having to fiddle with the settings to make them run well, depending on your set up. So console gaming is about convenience, PC gaming is about user customisation of their gaming experience, with regard to settings, machine set up, and performance.


4. Can you just go get a game and load it up and play, or do you need like a whole living room full of other stuff? I mean, can you just use some kind of a simple game controller, or do you need like foot pedals, a helmet, VR goggles, a light saber and a robotic suit and stuff? In other words, what is a basic game set up for a noob?

It depends on the game, but most games require only a console controller. There ARE games that you have to buy certain extra gear for, but they are not really as common or popular as they used to be. Although VR is having somewhat of a return to popularity, its not VERY popular at the moment. Obviously, games that need specific extra kit, like the old Guitar Hero games, do require the use of those other pieces of equipment, but again, its not super common to need an add on bit of kit to play a game.


5. I read through some of the posts here and I'm stunned at some of the technical stuff I see. People talk about processing cores and video cards and "rays" and "AI" and "Neural nets" (whatever that is). I see things about latency, and rendering, and frame rates. I see posts about people buying $1,000 video cards for their computers to use on gaming. I even see things about people water cooling their PC's to keep them from 'overheating'. WOW...how would anyone even know where to start? Can you just use a stupid old laptop and a mouse or some kind of a USB connected controller, or do you have to go buy a CRAY super-computer with 2080 giga-floppies of CPU cycles per nanosecond which has a heat signature that can be seen from space and has to be cooled from a liquid nitrogen tanker parked in your driveway? Can someone break it down for me? What's the deal-eo here?

If you want to game on PC, you have to have a PC and specific components within it, which can keep up with the requirements of the specific game. Not all games have the same requirements, so knowing what to get, other than the biggest, gnarliest, heat sinkiest, snarling BEAST of a graphics card, and all that jazz, is hard. Thats why many gamers who do not also build PCs because they like to, just get consoles instead.


6. How do you figure out where to start? How long does it take to even get to the point where you don't get killed like once per second?

That depends on the game you are playing. The tactics for a driving game will not work in the same way and to the same effect in a first person shooter, or a sports simulator, or a puzzle game. Getting into the habit of playing computer games, actually sharpens reactions and broadens concept and context specific reactions too, so as you play, you may find that despite progressing through levels of difficulty within a given game, you find yourself getting better at understanding what the strategies are for success intuitively



7. I see posts about 'cheats' and 'hacks'. I see posts about people manipulating memory registers to get advantages and using 3rd party software to give them an advantage. How would any non-gamer person ever know how to even start out as a beginner and just have fun with all that going against you? I mean, I've seen posts about people who just go on-line to jack with people (i.e. kill their own team mates, etc.) just for fun?

And this is why I like single player, no social aspects at all games, where its me against the programmers who wrote the game, with no one to steal my kills, no one to interrupt or interfere, just me, enemy sprites, and the will to kill them all.


8. Are there games where you can just play against the game, and not against someone else? In other words, what if you just want to play some game, but don't want to go into some on-line world and play against 10,000 other people who you don't know...can you do this?

Thats kind of similar to one of the questions you asked above, and as before, the answer is yes, but if you want that, get on with it and buy whatever it is you are wanting to buy, because the big gaming houses are swinging away from fully realised, well crafted, single player experiences.

All that I can say, given all that, is that I hope you have good experiences, that you get to play through some awesome stories, and that you enjoy the process of learning how to respond to in game stimuli. Have fun!



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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I love video games! Some of them are so cinematic and emmersive! I prefer console gaming because you have a controller with buttons and it’s more comfortable to me. It takes some work to get used to all the button combos on the PC, but I do that now and then.

I have an Xbox one, a Nintendo switch, a PS4. I ended up with the Switch to play Breath of the Wild and the PS4 to play Ratchet and Clank and Horizon Zero Dawn. See, they all have exclusive games to each console. It was worth it to me!

I love adventure style RPGs (role playing games) and Nintendo switch - Breath of the Wild was my favorite game last year. I followed it up with Skyrim and fell in love with it, as well as the music. The music was composed by Jeremy Soule and was a huge factor in the overall feel of the game. You can roam around in the wild under full moons with ethereal orchestral music and go anywhere you want! Skyrim has dragons, bards, factions you can join, a complex political system, side quests, deep history and a beautifully poetic delivery of the actual Elder Scrolls.

Currently I’m playing Fallout IV. It’s a post apocalyptic alt-history adventure rpg that also includes the element of resource gathering and building. Currently I’ve rebuilt over 10 settlements and have attracted hundreds of settlers. It is also an open world rpg and you can roam around and kill bad critters, bad guys, or go on quests for the main story line or side quests related to your traveling companions.

You’d get more game choices on an Xbox one or PS4 (and better graphics), and the Switch is portable with the option to hold in your hands like a tablet (with controllers) or connect to tv via a handy/included dock. The games lean more toward cartoony and fun and not as many games since it’s the newest console.

Glad you’re diving in!!

Many preach PC gaming and it’s awesome, just have to get a good build on a pc and get used to lots of buttons instead of a controller. I upgraded my graphics card and have a Steam account and am going to find a game to play. Steam is like a program you download for free and buy games on it and create a library. It updates your games automatically and many things are free to play and early release testing phase. Literally something for everyone!
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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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I play on PC and PS4. But since you are totally new and want to dip your toe in. Get an Xbox One. Out of the box it will have everything you need with a low commitment price, especially if you get it during a sale. Then sign up for the Xbox game pass. It should be easy to do right from your Xbox one when you turn it on and set it up. You can get a month or two for free, then it is 9.99 a month after that if you want to keep it. You will have access to over a hundred games to download directly to your Xbox one. So right out of the box you will have your system and over a hundred games. Without having to do anything else. And it is not like it is 100 cheapie games either. It is a lot of AAA games. Which are the games you can walk into Walmart or Bestbuy and pay 60 dollars for just one.

It is a great way to get an idea of what you like. You can try out multiple different games with no commitment. Then once you have a better idea of things. You can branch out.

Now PC is the best way to game. But you will need to spend more upfront, and you will have to sometimes fidget with the games to get them running. It is not just out of the box and then play. Since there is a wide variety of system parts. Not every computer is necessarily the same, where as every Xbox One is pretty much the same, and your game will work with no extra fiddling on your part. With PC you have to worry about graphic drivers, and making sure everything is up to date, and even with a beast of a PC, the game you want to play may not be optimized for what you have, and you have to spend an hour messing around with settings to get the game to play right. But the graphics will be way better on PC. Which means the game will be prettier.

But the Xbox one is a good gateway to video games. Then if you like it and want to get in deeper you can move on to PC. Also Sony Playstation 4 is pretty much like an Xbox one but it has more exclusives. Which are games that you can only play on a Playstation 4. But it is slightly more expensive than an Xbox one and it does not have the same type of game pass that the Xbox one has. So that is why I recommend the Xbox One to people looking to get into the hobby. Many will tell you that what they have is best and throw a bunch of useless tech talk at you. You have not gamed since Pong. So it is okay to go with easy and affordable.
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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 12:08 PM
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If you are going to get a console, I suggest going with XBOX One. Mainly due to the fact that the xbox 360 games will play on the new console. The PS4 lacks backwards compatibility.

Edit: Also, which ever system you decide, get Skyrim, one of the best games ever!
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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 12:31 PM
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Someone went into Skyrim and filmed some of the beautiful skies:




posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 12:44 PM
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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 01:10 PM
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Hey there FCD


First, you probably don't know about the can of worms of asking "which is best."

The most accurate analogy i can think of would be asking which sports team is best..

Personally, I went with PC. I've tried the newest generation of consoles and was deeply disappointed.

There is a lot of ignorance on costs associated with PC gaming, as well as peripherals (like the falsehood you can't play on your couch with a controller).

Basically, it ends up costing about the same to use a PC over time, if not a bit less. The advantage essentially boils down to customizing the experience, both with peripherals and the games themselves, as well as a significantly higher ceiling on graphics. With consoles, you are more looking at a simplified initial experience (purchase, setup) that equalizes quite quickly.

As for which types of games to suggest.. well, that's a lot like asking what kind of movies, TV shows, or books YOU are going to like. Its real, real tough to say the least.

The nice part about this, regardless of system, is that you can go on YouTube (or even something like steam.com) and watch games. This might help whittle things down a bit. Hell, some don't even want to play anything made after pong. Its a really expansive market.

Basically, most of it boils down to personal preference. A preference that many have built over many years, and justify accordingly.

So, what type of experience are you looking for in this form of entertainment? To give you an idea, I enjoy games that play like interactive books as well as large scale PvP (lotsa people all fighting at once).

If you already have a desktop computer, I'd suggest using that as a starting platform. If you don't, consoles become a bit more of a consideration. But, essentially, get a console if you have zero desire to mess with the hardware side of things on initial setup, and a PC for everything else. When it comes to things like reliability, technical issues, etc. its a pretty even field in my experience.
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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 01:22 PM
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Sweet God, why in the blue hell is everyone suggesting an older noob pick up an Xbone, PS4, or (shudder) a gaming desktop rig? Do you want the man to start out frustrated and have no fun?

FCD: Go buy yourself a Nintendo Switch. Pick up Skyrim, Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Stardew Valley, and Mario Kart. The games are on little chips, no loading onto a harddrive required, no frustrating setup, updating, or other BS. The mentioned selection of games gives you a nice mix of game genres and I guarantee you'll find most of them easy to pick up the controls on.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 01:27 PM
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Robotron 2084.
It's all you need to know about video games.

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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 01:27 PM
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Robotron 2084.
It's all you need to know about video games.

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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 01:30 PM
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I'm currently running a Raspberry PI with RetroPI and a softmodded Wii as my arcade emulators, but the Switch makes it almost simpler and (time wise) cheaper to just buy the damn arcade ports from the Switch Shop.
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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 01:54 PM
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Get a decent PC and a Nintendo switch.



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