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Michael Cohen pleads guilty, says he paid hush money at Trump's direction

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posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 05:41 PM
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Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, pleaded guilty Tuesday afternoon to eight counts of tax evasion, bank fraud and campaign finance violations, including two counts related to hush-money payments made to women — and said he made the payments "at the direction of a candidate," meaning Trump.

Trump's name didn't come up in the federal courtroom in Manhattan, but Cohen said he had paid two women, apparently porn actress Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal, "at the direction" of an unnamed candidate in 2016, and that a $150,000 payment in August 2016 was for the "principal purpose of influencing" the 2016 presidential election. Both Daniels and McDougal have said they had past relationships with Trump.


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Interesting how they slant this... a NDA is now hush-money, using personal funds now constitutes campaign money, things you did before being a candidate is now illegal, spending money is now considered an attempt to influence an election.

Going to be a long week for the left, now that they have Trump in the crosshairs, yet again...lol

Any thoughts, my fellow ATSers?
edit on 21-8-2018 by Lumenari because: (no reason given)



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posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

I don't usually wander into these parts of ATS, but I saw this on new...soooo...

Here is the plea agreement between Cohen and the US.

No need to let the media decide what has been said or agreement to. Read what Cohen has copped to under oath.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari


Paying "hush money" happens all the time. That's not illegal...is it?



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: anzha
a reply to: Lumenari

I don't usually wander into these parts of ATS, but I saw this on new...soooo...

Here is the plea agreement between Cohen and the US.

No need to let the media decide what has been said or agreement to. Read what Cohen has copped to under oath.


RE: www.lawfareblog.com...

Which section of this plea agreement involves paying women to keep quiet, regarding their relationships with Donald Trump?

The liberal MSM is all excited because Cohen named Trump as a Co-Conspirator to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. But, I don't see that wording anywhere in the Plea Agreement.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Lumenari


Paying "hush money" happens all the time. That's not illegal...is it?


It's called a Non-Disclosure Agreement and happens all the time. I am currently under 3.

It WOULD be illegal if he paid for it with campaign contributions, which is the angle the media is playing. Interesting angle actually, since the prosecutors can just throw it in there as part of his plea deal.

As in, it never goes in front of a judge or jury, so isn't proven.

But that's the angle the MSM will run with this week. Can't wait to see all the talk-show host turned lawyers breathlessly describe it.




posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Lumenari


Paying "hush money" happens all the time. That's not illegal...is it?

Seems a lot nicer than the methods that the Clintons use to keep someone quiet.


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posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:05 PM
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Unnamed Co-Conspirator.
That's a label most probably applied to Donald J. Trump this evening.
Unless you think that Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton told Cohen to pay off two people in order to influence the outcome of an election.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

See my post above.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

No hillary just pushed bernie sanders out as a choice for a presidential candidate. But nothing to see there :up.

You brought up the witch btw.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:11 PM
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President Trump starts a West Virginia campaign rally in a few minutes. Even CNN is covering it tonight, lol.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
Unnamed Co-Conspirator.
That's a label most probably applied to Donald J. Trump this evening.
Unless you think that Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton told Cohen to pay off two people in order to influence the outcome of an election.


Except that entering a non-disclosure deal is perfectly legal. Candidates do it all the time.

The only way it would be illegal is if Trump used campaign contributions to pay for it.

See how simple this is?

But the media will spin it anyways.

Here's your kool-aid... you should be good for a week!!!




posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: samuelsson
a reply to: Sillyolme

No hillary just pushed bernie sanders out as a choice for a presidential candidate. But nothing to see there :up.

You brought up the witch btw.


She doesn't care about Bernie getting screwed because her bestie won the primary... by any means necessary.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme

Unless you think that Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton told Cohen to pay off two people in order to influence the outcome of an election.


Not Cohen, but they certainly were involved in pay offs, many of them.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari




Any thoughts, my fellow ATSers?


The narrative is increasing in effectiveness. This along with the missing girl who was found to be murdered by an illegal immigrant.

It's painfully apparent these days.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: anzha
a reply to: Lumenari

I don't usually wander into these parts of ATS, but I saw this on new...soooo...

Here is the plea agreement between Cohen and the US.

No need to let the media decide what has been said or agreement to. Read what Cohen has copped to under oath.


RE: www.lawfareblog.com...

Which section of this plea agreement involves paying women to keep quiet, regarding their relationships with Donald Trump?

The liberal MSM is all excited because Cohen named Trump as a Co-Conspirator to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. But, I don't see that wording anywhere in the Plea Agreement.


Um... he didn't name him either. Although the assumption is when he says "the candidate" that is Trump. Since Stormy is involved, I'm pretty sure it's Trump.

Doesn't matter though.



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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BREAKING NEWS...

Trump paid off a porn star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump bought the rights to a story about a Play Boy Model!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DOUBLE BREAKING NEWS

Clinton spilled his sperm on a blue dress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Can we call something new if we knew about it for a long time already?



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Lumenari


Paying "hush money" happens all the time. That's not illegal...is it?

Not when it's your orange God, right?



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Well, I guess if you don't hold your President to a higher standard than an adulterer who pays off his mistresses in order to not affect his campaign chances then there's nothing to see here...smh



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Lumenari


Paying "hush money" happens all the time. That's not illegal...is it?



We don't call it that we say "influence the outcome of an election"....

Just like if we can not say sexual crime we say "Inappropriate sexual behavior" as we ruin a person's life....



posted on Aug, 21 2018 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: anzha
a reply to: Lumenari

I don't usually wander into these parts of ATS, but I saw this on new...soooo...

Here is the plea agreement between Cohen and the US.

No need to let the media decide what has been said or agreement to. Read what Cohen has copped to under oath.


RE: www.lawfareblog.com...

Which section of this plea agreement involves paying women to keep quiet, regarding their relationships with Donald Trump?

The liberal MSM is all excited because Cohen named Trump as a Co-Conspirator to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. But, I don't see that wording anywhere in the Plea Agreement.


Um... he didn't name him either. Although the assumption is when he says "the candidate" that is Trump. Since Stormy is involved, I'm pretty sure it's Trump.

Doesn't matter though.


Thanks. Trump will have to take a number. Many alleged criminals in line in front of him.




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