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Manafort found guilty on 8 counts, mistrial declared on remaining 10.

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posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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Oh it's very simple... scoundrels are scoundrels from top to bottom... even down to the genitals...


originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Phage

Right. Under oath. Was that a perjury trap, you think?


I think it is all based on a perjury trap, then and now. That is the real tool in their little bag of tricks. I have always wondered how they went from the Whitewater Scam to sperm on a blue dress...


Just like how do we get from a Russian collusion to a porn star...



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xcathdra




I call it a coup because Democrats are trying to remove a duly elected President because they dont like him and wanted Clinton to win.


Was the Clinton impeachment a Republican attempt at a coup as well?


Yeah, I pretty much think so

Trying to oust someone from office over consensual sex is absurd

I was a kid when this was happening, and even then thought it was dumb



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

And none of the charges said anything about Russia.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: HunkaHunka
Oh it's very simple... scoundrels are scoundrels from top to bottom... even down to the genitals...


Well if we count genitals as determining scoundrels there wasn't too many honest Presidents...



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 05:39 PM
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So both Manafort and Cohen have been found guilty basically of tax evasion. Good job!! Not sure how this all links back to the President though as the news says it increases focus on the Russian collusion.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 06:04 PM
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wtf??



Joel B. Pollak
‏Verified account @joelpollak

"That may come down to Mr. Cohen's word versus Mr. Trump's."

@LannyDavis admitting to @chucktodd on @MSNBC just now that there is no additional evidence he knows about that would corroborate @MichaelCohen212's claim to the judge that @realDonaldTrump directed him to do anything.





Jonathan Petri
‏ @JonathanJPetri
20m20 minutes ago

Now lanny davis just told CNN that he wasn't saying cohen has information about russian hacking



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 06:18 PM
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Cohen also plead guilty to another charge... that of breaking the campaign finance law... at the behest of a candidate.



originally posted by: Xtrozero
So both Manafort and Cohen have been found guilty basically of tax evasion. Good job!! Not sure how this all links back to the President though as the news says it increases focus on the Russian collusion.




posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: HunkaHunka
Cohen also plead guilty to another charge... that of breaking the campaign finance law... at the behest of a candidate.



originally posted by: Xtrozero
So both Manafort and Cohen have been found guilty basically of tax evasion. Good job!! Not sure how this all links back to the President though as the news says it increases focus on the Russian collusion.




oel B. Pollak
‏Verified account @joelpollak

"That may come down to Mr. Cohen's word versus Mr. Trump's."

@LannyDavis admitting to @chucktodd on @MSNBC just now that there is no additional evidence he knows about that would corroborate @MichaelCohen212's claim to the judge that @realDonaldTrump directed him to do anything.


Cohens own lawyer disputes that claim.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra


Mueller had a 44% "success" rate with Manafort. And it had nothing to do with his original RUSSIA mandate. That's NOT Winning. Time for this Special Counsel to shut down, or be shut down.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: HunkaHunka
Cohen also plead guilty to another charge... that of breaking the campaign finance law... at the behest of a candidate.



That wasn't a charge, that was a statement as he says whatever to save his ass.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 10:21 PM
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Actually it was a charge... that's why he pleaded guilty to it in a court of law.


originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: HunkaHunka
Cohen also plead guilty to another charge... that of breaking the campaign finance law... at the behest of a candidate.



That wasn't a charge, that was a statement as he says whatever to save his ass.



posted on Aug, 22 2018 @ 11:57 PM
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MANAFORT JUROR COMES FORWARD TO SPEAK:

One holdout juror prevented Manafort from being found GUILTY on all 18 charges.

Story: www.foxnews.com...



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 12:57 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Did you deliberately take only that little piece of what I said or did you just completely ignore the context of what I said? You completely missed the part where I said

According to the liberal logic I've been seeing floating around for the last year and a half, Trump getting impeached supposedly means instant installation of Hillary in the White House.



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 01:47 AM
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a reply to: deadlysyn


You completely missed the part where I said
Yes. Because it makes no sense. Unless, of course, you can provide an example of a liberal using that logic.



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 01:48 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust


MANAFORT JUROR COMES FORWARD TO SPEAK:

One holdout juror prevented Manafort from being found GUILTY on all 18 charges.

Story: www.foxnews.com...




So, the rightist threats worked somewhat.

/sarcasm
edit on 8/23/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 02:00 AM
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a reply to: Phage


Manafort's a good guy. He might get out of jail before age 80.



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 02:12 AM
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a reply to: carewemust




Manafort's a good guy.

You actually do believe every word that comes out of Trump's mouth.

Weird.



posted on Aug, 23 2018 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Xcathdra


Mueller had a 44% "success" rate with Manafort. And it had nothing to do with his original RUSSIA mandate. That's NOT Winning. Time for this Special Counsel to shut down, or be shut down.


You seem worried. A 44% success rate on something at complex as this investigation (not to mention 1 jury member stopped there being guilty convictions on all 18 charges) means this was not a failure. By estimates it seems he could go to prison for up to 80 years, so he was found GUILTY of serious wrong doing. If this isn't winning, that would naturally imply you think Manafort did.

It's very strange you consider this to be 'not winning' and enough reason to call a halt to investigations. I've thought for a long time that there are some dubious accounts on here, you are only reinforcing that opinion.
edit on 23-8-2018 by bluesilver because: no reason given



posted on Sep, 1 2018 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: carewemust
If this is the best that Bob Mueller can do with finding Russian collusion with Americans, his investigation needs to be terminated.


Nothing Manafort was charged with had anything to do with Trump or Russia collusion.


Oh there is overlap, particularly with the Russian Oligarch Manafort was taking money from.

So "anything to do" is false.

But correct he was not charged in this trial with anything "directly" related to Russian Collusion.

Conclusions about Russian collusion with the Trump Campaign that Manafort was Chairman of are reserved for the Special Counsel's final report.

You really should catch up on what is going on and who is investigating what.


You mean deripaska?

The same one who was palling around with dossier author chris steele, and was having conversations with senate intel vice chair mark warner?



Maybe you can start your own thread on that where you claims can be tested?

Or is the hope to derail?


No hope to derail at all.

I already said I felt manafort was guilty and deserved to be punished.

I was responding to your claim that his connection to deripaska proves a connection to russian collusion.

If thats the case, then deripaskas connections to steele and mark warner are just as shady.



Pssst
NYT: DOJ's Bruce Ohr, dossier author Christopher Steele involved in efforts to flip Russian oligarch
www.cnn.com...



posted on Sep, 2 2018 @ 03:50 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

CNN is a Fake news site!




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