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John Elway blames Colin Kaepernick for no job: 'had his chance to be here,' omits key fact

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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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So John Elway of the Broncos gets interviewed yesterday and says that the Broncos offered Kaepernick a deal but he turned it down, which seems to be true. What he omitted was that the deal was offered before the "protests", while implying him turning down the Broncos is why he is unemployed.


The widespread assumption at this point, when it comes to the future of Colin Kaepernick, is he will not find work in the NFL moving forward. It's tough to get a gig when you're suing your potential employers!

But according to Broncos VP of Football Ops John Elway on Thursday, Kaepernick COULD have a job if he wanted to. In other words, Elway blames Kaepernick for not taking the Broncos offer when it was on the table



"Colin had his chance here. We offered him a contract. He didn't take it," Elway said. "So, as I said it in my deposition, I don't know if I'll be legally able to say this, but he's had his chance to be here. He passed [on] it."



Second things second (but probably should be first): Elway is sort of missing a key piece of information here. The Broncos, who dipped into the quarterback market this offseason to sign Case Keenum, also brought in Brock Osweiler for the 2017 season. They never offered Kaepernick a deal last offseason. It was during the 2016 offseason when they contacted the then-49ers quarterback.

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While Elway was disingenuous on this, I still don't quite get all the backlash on this story years later.

Kaepernick has every right to use his free speech to further any political causes of his choosing. However there is one thing that always gets me....

I've worked for two corporations in my life, both have required me to sign a form saying that any political speech I do is to be done while on personal time and not to include my place of work via language or logo on my person. Both companies were household names, so it made sense that they didn't want me going out on my own and dragging them into anything that could harm business.

Kaepernick has been an affluent with no shortage of resources or connections. He could have easily set up press conferences while not wearing the jersey, or set up a foundation to further his causes. Whatever your opinion on his politics, I understand why people wouldn't want to employ someone who is going to use the employers platform for political speech, it could be bad for business.

NFL season is about to kick off, so I figured I'd prime the discussion I am sure was going to come sooner or later.



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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:25 AM
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If Kaepernick was a good enough QB, someone would have put up with his circus. But, he's just not. That's all there is to it.

He's not Aaron Rodgers or Dak Prescott or even Tom Brady.
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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Who?
next thread will be about johhny manzel or tim tebow right?
www.sbnation.com...
funny how someone who quit their job got so much attention



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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How and why does it matter that this offer was in 2016? In what way was Elway being 'disingenuous'?

It's more evidence that Kaepernick's head is larger than his afro. This one time sh!tty quarterback turned SJW has all but destroyed the entire league.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:31 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
If Kaepernick was a good enough QB, someone would have put up with his circus. But, he's just not. That's all there is to it.

He's not Aaron Rodgers or Dak Prescott or even Tom Brady.


If you look at his stats he's suited to at least be a backup, but one that carries liability.

Either way, as I've said, he had way more avenues than the rest of us to get his political message out, but he chose to use his employers platform while "on the clock".

I don't see how people are calling this racist or unjustified for business owners to protect their own interest.

I'd also be singing a different tune if he was politically active while not "on the clock" and they came after him for that, that would be wrong IMO.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: rexsblues


How and why does it matter that this offer was in 2016? In what way was Elway being 'disingenuous'?


I call them how I see them, with the context of this conversation and the attention it's gotten for the past few years, omitting that piece of information in my opinion is disingenuous.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker




posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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He lost his starting job before he began protesting not because of his protesting.

Funny how all the other players that took a knee still have jobs,,, oh yeah, they have talent.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:39 AM
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HAHAHA
What is "disingenuous" is to pretend kap not playing football has anything to do with "social justice".
He quit on the 49ers after being benched.
Kap bet on himself and lost.
It happens all the time in the nfl, kap just got all the attention because of his antics.
The option to "opt out" of a contract does not always work out in favor of the player.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
He lost his starting job before he began protesting not because of his protesting.

Funny how all the other players that took a knee still have jobs,,, oh yeah, they have talent.


Did he? How could he have taken a knee on the field if he was unemployed?

Either way, even if he did lose his job for protesting at work and possibly drawing negative attention, do employers not have the right to protect business interests?



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: Thejoncrichton
a reply to: CriticalStinker



Every one of those examples were a violation of the NFL uniform policy. They are very strict on that one.

And the prayer one is total crap. Watch the middle of the field after a game and you will see players from both teams gather for a prayer.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

He lost his starting job and was the backup quarterback.

The NFL has a collective bargaining agreement with the players. Teams can call protests on the field violations of code of conduct policy.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Bluntone22
He lost his starting job before he began protesting not because of his protesting.

Funny how all the other players that took a knee still have jobs,,, oh yeah, they have talent.


Did he? How could he have taken a knee on the field if he was unemployed?

Either way, even if he did lose his job for protesting at work and possibly drawing negative attention, do employers not have the right to protect business interests?

perhaps you should do a little research on this before you look more foolish
the player lost his starting job before any of the hullabaloo started
then the player quit his job with millions left on his contract
you feel sorry for him and defend him all you like, I refuse to sympathize with a player who threw a fit when benched then quit on his team because it was too tough to get his starting job back



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody


perhaps you should do a little research on this before you look more foolish the player lost his starting job before any of the hullabaloo started then the player quit his job with millions left on his contract you feel sorry for him and defend him all you like, I refuse to sympathize with a player who threw a fit when benched then quit on his team because it was too tough to get his starting job back


Simmer down there Jethro.

I asked him a question, you know to educate myself.

Also, find for me where I defended Kap, good luck, I haven't.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: CriticalStinker

He lost his starting job and was the backup quarterback.

The NFL has a collective bargaining agreement with the players. Teams can call protests on the field violations of code of conduct policy.


Gotchya, but I mean he still did have a job while he protested, and protested while on the job. Not smart moves IMO.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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Kap had every right to protest ON HIS OWN TIME. His mistake was dragging his EMPLOYER into the fray by doing it on the field. Many athletes get a big head because they are bringing in large paychecks and fail to realize that they are still employees of a larger organization.

In highly meritocratic jobs like pro athletics, teams will put up with a lot of BS to keep star players. Kap over estimated his value to teams in that he simply was not good enough for them to turn a blind eye to his shenanigans.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

I think in the case of Tim Tebow it mores more The MSM/Sports Media that were mocking him for praying.

the fact of the matter is, his "protest" is based on the lie that black men are under some kind of racial attack by whites and cops. The stats just don't bear that out and actually show the opposite is true.



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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
If Kaepernick was a good enough QB, someone would have put up with his circus. But, he's just not. That's all there is to it.

He's not Aaron Rodgers or Dak Prescott or even Tom Brady.


Dak is mediocre at best, and really shouldn't even be mentioned in the same conversation as Brady and Rodgers.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: rexsblues

It matters because Squidward Tentacles (c’mon, man, with that fro and nose he does look like him) is in active litigation with the league concerning collusion (it’s the zeitgeist).

Kap has the skills to hold a clipboard (I guess it’s a tablet these days). Is he starter material? I’d take him over Blake Bortles. He definitely would start over the mess they have in Buffalo (Brandon Beane was my 8th grade basketball coach — true f$cking story). Maybe a couple others, but those are the only teams that will contend that Kap MAY start for.

I seriously hope the Turd Emperor isn’t running Elway out there spinning this anecdote to try and shape public perception — hey, Roger, nearly everyone hates this guy and just leave it to the court, where you’re gonna win. If this was a post-practice media scrum and some beat writer asked the question, that’s totally different.

ETA: It was a post-practice media scrum...there’s nothing to see here. Horse face was asked a question and he answered. This much ado about nothing.

ETA2: Watchitburn is on point. Dak Prescott can’t even carry Rodgers/Brady jock strap.

edit on 17-8-2018 by BeefNoMeat because: ETA



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 09:15 AM
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I live is a right to fire state (Tennessee). I can tell you with complete certainty, if one of my very best employees disrespected the flag, the organization, or our country, he would be walking down the road kicking rocks. Disrespect is a moral problem that will not go away by ignoring it.







 
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