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On the synthesis between revealed Judeo-Christian tradition & the way of the Tao.

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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Itisnowagain


If you stand apart from life then you will suffer from separation anxiety...............which is fear...........that fear will not lift away until the ONE life reveals itself.


What peace does thinking that good and evil are one and the same bring you?

Peace cannot be brought..................peace is ever present................when no concept is bought into.

What is there really????
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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain


Peace cannot be brought..................peace is ever present................when no concept is bought into.


We have a brain to develop thoughts and concepts for a reason. Just because you choose not to use yours is not an excuse to play a victim and a scapegoat for what is real. Just because you believe ignorance is bliss, doesn't make it so.


What is there really????


There is a reality that exists outside of your comprehension. It's called life and it's not a joke as you have claimed it is.






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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 10:31 AM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
Just because you believe ignorance is bliss, doesn't make it so.

Ignorance is not bliss....................ignoring the true nature of what is, is not blissful.....it is fearful.




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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
There is a reality that exists outside of your comprehension.

Philippians 4:7 English Standard Version (ESV)
7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

This right here and right now is the ONE. Stay here and now and you will experience that peace that requires no understanding.
The joke is you cannot ever leave here and now....................there is only here and now, with thoughts appearing within it that speak of other times. You believe in the person in time and miss that all time appears within now.


It's called life and it's not a joke as you have claimed it is.

The joke is there is only the ONE life and all appears in it........................yet there is a belief in out and separation.
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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
We have a brain to develop thoughts and concepts for a reason.
What so you can believe in things that are not here? So you can believe something which is not true?

By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. George Carlin.
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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain


Philippians 4:7 English Standard Version (ESV)
7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.


That is true, but once again you're ignoring the fact that it's done through Christ Jesus.


This right here and right now is the ONE. Stay here and now and you will experience that peace that requires no understanding.

The joke is you cannot ever leave here and now....................there is only here and now, with thoughts appearing within it that speak of other times. You believe in the person in time and miss that all time appears within now.


That is not true according to Jesus.


The joke is there is only the ONE life and all appears in it........................yet there is a belief in out and separation.


Also, not true according to Jesus.

So, while you try to twist scripture to incorporate it into your belief, you cannot, no matter how hard you try.

If you want to use scripture, you have to use it within the context that it has been given, otherwise, it loses all meaning and you end up creating your own God in your heart and mind as you have done.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

Anyway..........the thread is "On the synthesis between revealed Judeo-Christian tradition & the way of the Tao". So if you do not see that that the two that have been put up for discussion are the same thing then you will just have to disagree and be done with it.
I am not going to argue with someone who only reads Jesus and God stuff and has no comprehension of any other writings.....I had no interest in any religion prior to the revelation of the ONE and then I went and searched out the holy books and writings to confirm what I had seen................it's written in all of them.
They all point to the only.
Honestly, there will be much laughter when it is reveals itself................and maybe tears of joy.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain


Anyway..........the thread is "On the synthesis between revealed Judeo-Christian tradition & the way of the Tao". So if you do not see that that the two that have been put up for discussion are the same thing then you will just have to disagree and be done with it.


After our discussion, I'm hoping that the author of this thread recognizes the problem that exists with trying to combine the two. They may share similarities, but they ARE NOT the same thing.


I am not going to argue with someone who only reads Jesus and God stuff and has no comprehension of any other writings.....I had no interest in any religion prior to the revelation of the ONE and then I went and searched out the holy books and writings to confirm what I had seen................it's written in all of them.


Which "holy books" were those? They certainly weren't the Bible because the Bible confirms no such thing.


Honestly, there will be much laughter when it is reveals itself................and maybe tears of joy.


According to the Bible, when the truth is revealed, many will cry out in sorrow and mourn.

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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

Let me try to explain this in a way that may (or may not) make sense to you when using your brain.

We were created in the image of God, but while we were created in that image, that does not make us God.

That's like trying to say that the image we see of ourselves in a mirror makes it our clone or makes up our true selves, but hopefully, our brain is able to logically think through why that can't possibly be true.




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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
According to the Bible, when the truth is revealed, many will cry out in sorrow and mourn.

So is that why you deny it because you have heard that it will cause you sorrow?
I thought it was about peace joy and contentment, oh well ...who knows?
When this lady recognised what's what she could not stop laughing.


Honestly - it is the cosmic joke.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
We were created in the image of God, but while we were created in that image, that does not make us God.

The image that is appearing now.....this ever changing image of light..............that is constant, is where everything is made. But no thing was really ever made.


That's like trying to say that the image we see of ourselves in a mirror makes it our clone or makes up our true selves, but hopefully, our brain is able to logically think through why that can't possibly be true.

Will what is seeing/witnessing this image of light that is here now, ever be seen? Is it separate to the image?


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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:19 PM
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So is that why you deny it because you have heard that it will cause you sorrow?
I thought it was about peace joy and contentment, oh well ...who knows?


It is about peace, joy and contentment if you're able to understand the Bible's message and what it's telling you. For those who don't, it won't be.


When this lady recognised what's what she could not stop laughing.


Sheer madness will cause bouts of laughter too.

According to the Bible, even Satan was capable of disguising himself as an angel of light to deceive people. God does allow people to be deceived. Why is that?


Question: "Why does God allow deception?"

Answer: God’s desire is that all people repent and be saved (2 Peter 3:9). At the same time, Satan, the “father of lies” (John 8:44), deceives the very people who need to accept the truth. “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ” (2 Corinthians 4:4). Surely, God could stop Satan’s lies and give people a fighting chance.

The Bible presents a consistent picture of how sin and deception are related. What’s revealed is that the way we tend to think of deceit is, well, a bit deceived. Spiritually speaking, deception is deeper than merely being tricked or lied to. In order to be saved, one does not need any particular level of intelligence, philosophical ability, or wisdom (Galatians 3:28; 1 Corinthians 1:20, 26). In fact, mankind has an unfortunate habit of using increased knowledge to develop more sophisticated ways to sin.

Key to understanding spiritual deception is the fact that we often choose what we want to believe rather than what we should believe, even in the face of the evidence (Luke 16:31). “Even after Jesus had done all these miraculous signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him” (John 12:37). Notice that they would not believe Jesus, despite the miracles. Their unbelief was willful.


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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

you cant talk about taoism in christianity without fully accepting the possibility that there is no "adversary" or "savior". or, conversely, that adversary and savior are in fact the same person, and that person is both you and everyone except you.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:31 PM
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Will what is seeing/witnessing this image of light that is here now, ever be seen? Is it separate to the image?


The Bible tells us that Jesus is the light of all men and that He will be SEEN by everyone that is in heaven, on earth, and under the earth when He returns. Some will rejoice and some will mourn knowing that they willfully rejected Him.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: Deetermined

All people, all who think that they are separate to all that is.....have been deceived.
The belief in 'things' is the denial of the spirit.
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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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All people, all who think that they are separate to all that is.....have been deceived.


Which "holy book" can I find that statement in?



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Itisnowagain


All people, all who think that they are separate to all that is.....have been deceived.


Which "holy book" can I find that statement in?

Oh I am not quoting anyone.



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Itisnowagain


Will what is seeing/witnessing this image of light that is here now, ever be seen? Is it separate to the image?


The Bible tells us that Jesus is the light of all men and that He will be SEEN by everyone that is in heaven, on earth, and under the earth when He returns. Some will rejoice and some will mourn knowing that they willfully rejected Him.




In the Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu explains that beings (or phenomena) that are wholly in harmony with the Tao behave in a completely natural, uncontrived way. The goal of spiritual practice for the human being is, according to Lao Tzu, the attainment of this purely natural way of behaving, as when the planets revolve around the sun. The planets effortlessly do this revolving without any sort of control, force, or attempt to revolve themselves, thus engaging in effortless and spontaneous movement.



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posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Itisnowagain


All people, all who think that they are separate to all that is.....have been deceived.


Which "holy book" can I find that statement in?

Oh I am not quoting anyone.


Didn't think so, so why do you quote the Bible to push a narrative that's not biblical? That's deception, isn't it?



posted on Aug, 17 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: Deetermined

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Itisnowagain


All people, all who think that they are separate to all that is.....have been deceived.


Which "holy book" can I find that statement in?

Oh I am not quoting anyone.


Didn't think so, so why do you quote the Bible to push a narrative that's not biblical? That's deception, isn't it?


The reason has to do with the thread title.................and I was quoting the Tao until you came in quoting the Bible.




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