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NSA is taking on CIA roles So what is the directive of the CIA?

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posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 09:22 AM
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So I've read a few articles showing that the NSA is taking on foreign intelligence missions, making me wonder what the CIA has been up to if a completely different agency is literally doing what the CIA was created to do.


THE NSA’S ROLE IN A CLIMATE-CHANGED WORLD: SPYING ON NONPROFITS, FISHING BOATS, AND THE NORTH POLE



IN THE NORTHERNMOST place in the United States, Point Barrow, Alaska, a National Security Agency collection site has allowed analysts to observe Russia’s military buildup 24/7, as melting Arctic ice opens a new conflict zone. The NSA has also monitored a dispute between India and Pakistan over access to the Indus River system, which is fed by glaciers high in the Himalayas, now shrinking. And as fisheries are facing increasing pressure from seas whose currents and temperatures have already been altered significantly by climate change, the NSA has listened in on phone conversations and monitored the movement of fishing boats engaged in potentially illegal practices that threaten dwindling stocks.
The Intercept


328 NSA DOCUMENTS REVEAL “VAST NETWORK” OF IRANIAN AGENTS, DETAILS OF A KEY INTELLIGENCE COUP, AND A FERVOR FOR VOICE MATCHING TECHNOLOGY



When the National Security Agency discovered that Iran may have been buying computer chips from the United States, routing them through a U.S. ally, and potentially supplying them to detonate bombs against U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, it credited so-called economic intelligence with the find.
The Intercept




NSA CRACKED OPEN ENCRYPTED NETWORKS OF RUSSIAN AIRLINES, AL JAZEERA, AND OTHER “HIGH POTENTIAL” TARGETS



THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY successfully broke the encryption on a number of “high potential” virtual private networks, including those of media organization Al Jazeera, the Iraqi military and internet service organizations, and a number of airline reservation systems, according to a March 2006 NSA document.


The Intercept

Those are all just small excerpts from in-depth articles. Now, this is part of what the NSA was set up to do. From Wikipedia


The National Security Agency (NSA) is a national-level intelligence agency of the United States Department of Defense, under the authority of the Director of National Intelligence. The NSA is responsible for global monitoring, collection, and processing of information and data for foreign intelligence and counterintelligence purposes, specializing in a discipline known as signals intelligence (SIGINT). The NSA is also tasked with the protection of U.S. communications networks and information systems.[8][9] The NSA relies on a variety of measures to accomplish its mission, the majority of which are clandestine.[10]


So with a major part of their workload seemingly lifted from the CIA, what do you all think they have mainly been focusing on?




posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker


Good question!

CIA needs be disbanded and spread to the winds. However, if the NSA is taking over and have the same lack of boundaries as the CIA, won't make much of a damn difference.....



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: CriticalStinker


Good question!

CIA needs be disbanded and spread to the winds. However, if the NSA is taking over and have the same lack of boundaries as the CIA, won't make much of a damn difference.....


Unfortunately we are seeing the inverse of CIA being disbanded, they're being expanded.

Logic (or lack there of lol) leads me to believe if the NSA is taking the legwork for gathering intel, this is freeing up the CIA to do more "hands on" directives.

I expect to see some governments topple.



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 09:28 AM
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dbl
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posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: CriticalStinker


Good question!

CIA needs be disbanded and spread to the winds. However, if the NSA is taking over and have the same lack of boundaries as the CIA, won't make much of a damn difference.....


Unfortunately we are seeing the inverse of CIA being disbanded, they're being expanded.

Logic (or lack there of lol) leads me to believe if the NSA is taking the legwork for gathering intel, this is freeing up the CIA to do more "hands on" directives.

I expect to see some governments topple.


It's happening right now with Iran! Grant you the people of Iran SHOULD rise up and demand freedom from theocracy, however, if they are being pushed by the CIA to rise up, what freedom will they secure if they can't elect someone they want, but someone who is being put up for them by those getting them to rebel?

Seen this snip happen too many times to pretend I am oblivious to the game. If the people succeed in fighting for their freedom, just watch the globalist/banking tool who they will be BS'd into ruling over them.

I guess considering the people of Iran have a crazy government threatening to nuke the US it is a better option than a war, but just watch when it goes down who is put in charge.

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posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 09:51 AM
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THE NSA’S ROLE IN A CLIMATE-CHANGED WORLD:


A complete political bastardization of it's supposed function.



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: neo96


THE NSA’S ROLE IN A CLIMATE-CHANGED WORLD:


A complete political bastardization of it's supposed function.


Well it's a fact the climate is change, the argument comes to why it is, more specifically natural vs. man made.



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

The function of the NSA is signal intercepts.

To find out what the weather is doing turn on the weather channel and it doesn't cost billions of dollars to spy on trees.



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: neo96


To find out what the weather is doing turn on the weather channel and it doesn't cost billions of dollars to spy on trees.


They're not so much interested in the weather, but keeping an eye on Russia's interest with the weather.

Russia has been gradually increasing their presence in the North Pole to extract newly accessible resources, as well as setting up military installations.



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: seeker1963


It's happening right now with Iran!


I wouldn't be surprised, the CIA loves them some Iran. Unfortunately should they get too involved now it could surely poke the bear. I really don't want my tax dollars to go towards more intervention and proxy wars with Russia and Iran.



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Im thinking they have more time for running drugs and guns now. Fast and furiously



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Im thinking they have more time for running drugs and guns now. Fast and furiously


Well, at least they are paying some of their own bills..... *sigh*



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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Dipping an ignorant toe into this thread to make a cursory observation. The CIA is a civilian intelligence gathering organization meant to provide national security analysis to the President and his Cabinet, who are also civilians. Whereas, the NSA is under the Department of Defense and is tasked with the protection of US communications networks and information systems.


The NSA relies on a variety of measures to accomplish its mission, the majority of which are clandestine
en.wikipedia.org...


Unlike the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), which is a domestic security service, the CIA has no law enforcement function and is mainly focused on overseas intelligence gathering, with only limited domestic intelligence collection.
......Moreover, the CIA is the only agency authorized by law to carry out and oversee covert action at the behest of the President.

en.wikipedia.org...

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posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Thanks for the input and information!

That does explain some things, but how could the CIA be civilian and have black ops operating behind enemy lines?



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker




That does explain some things, but how could the CIA be civilian and have black ops operating behind enemy lines?


I'm reminded of Haliburton during the Bush administration.
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posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: CriticalStinker




That does explain some things, but how could the CIA be civilian and have black ops operating behind enemy lines?


I'm reminded of Haliburton during the Bush administration.


And Blackwater, dynocorp.... The list goes on. I see your point.



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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When a country that is basically the worlds policeman; you think the secret 3 letters won't grow and expand with the added monies poured into the military industrial complex? Not to mention the black budget, hidden and secret.


This isn't Kansas anymore toto....



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

The US need's a good intelligence service, perhaps this is more a matter of oversight since your government seem's to have not had enough power over the CIA in the past and of course the allegations that they were involved in such matters as the assassination of JFK indicating that they actually therefore orchestrated a coup in the US which of course they have done many time's in other part's of the world.

The point is that they were given too much power, too much autonomy and ended up serving interests other than the actual interests of the US democratic system.

Most of there agent's are undoubtedly american patriot's but this is a matter of there personal belief's and there willingness to bend or ignore the rule of law even in there own nation to achieve interests based upon those belief's when in fact they are supposed to be serving the interests of there nation.

Perhaps this is a step toward stripping them of there immunity and bringing down certain dirty former CIA members including perhaps the Bush Dynasty since this is happening under Trump's watch, perhaps it is also a step toward merging the lower ranking CIA and it's agent's with the NSA which it so happen's is actually the correct agency to be doing what the CIA has been doing while in turn the FBI should have arrested several former CIA directors for there breaches of US Law but thank's to that autonomy and lack of oversight they ended up playing second fiddle to the CIA on almost every matter even to a degree becoming there second lieutenant.

At any rate the CIA will not vanish, too much valuable experience and skill's to waste like that, too many deep operatives to lose and all that may happen is a clear up of the upper echelon's of the CIA and a shift of authority to were it should have been all along the NSA whom will then simply take over the running of those operatives and also perhaps curtail some of the more questionable activity's of the CIA which have worked AGAINST both US and it's allies interests as well as tarnished the reputation of the US intelligence services en mass.

Like I say I have no doubt that the bulk of the CIA are actually good guy's, many have lain down there lives for your nation but there is always a bad few rogues.

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posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 01:24 PM
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The U.S. Intelligence Services have a gripe and a half with the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee. If you want to look for foreign tentacles, that is the ground zero. That bunch of serial A-holes has got things so messed up that I couldn't get a job, cleaning toilets on a U.S. Military Base in Germany, back in 1971. Three of us argued with an obvious security man, as we watched from his second story window, at a horde of Eastern European migrant workers arriving in the morning to work there. He wouldn't put anything down on paper, but he really lashed out at the Senate Committee. These boobs aren't taking care of Americans, excepting Rockefellers, et al.

They were so afraid that the C.I.A. would plant spies into American Expat workers in Europe, that they forbid our military from hiring any visiting Americans, period. Then they had the E.U. do the same thing, so only Eastern Europeans could be employed on U.S. bases, or in the Economies, for that matter.

The other side of the coin, is where the entire security apparat, here, went after the Russian lady Master's degree, Candidate, Maria Butina, so that she couldn't break bread with our NRA's brass. They want everyone locked down into little prison cells, so that only their B.S. news will be propagated. Can't have foreign common people talking to each other, and still keep absolute control over the U.S. citizenry.



posted on Aug, 16 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: CriticalStinker


Dipping an ignorant toe into this thread to make a cursory observation. The CIA is a civilian intelligence gathering organization meant to provide national security analysis to the President and his Cabinet, who are also civilians. Whereas, the NSA is under the Department of Defense and is tasked with the protection of US communications networks and information systems.


The NSA relies on a variety of measures to accomplish its mission, the majority of which are clandestine
en.wikipedia.org...


Unlike the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), which is a domestic security service, the CIA has no law enforcement function and is mainly focused on overseas intelligence gathering, with only limited domestic intelligence collection.
......Moreover, the CIA is the only agency authorized by law to carry out and oversee covert action at the behest of the President.

en.wikipedia.org...


They were wanting to split the NSA up as well. One half to do the securing of computer network hardware and software. The other to do the cracking of computer software. The NSA were discovering security vulnerabilities and using them for their own needs and not reporting them until criminal hackers discovered them instead. By then it is too late.



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