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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert
I don't think that's what I said. I said that if you want 100% use of verifiable fact, then you won't find all of that here.
Logic and reasoning are and can be used to fill in holes in what the verifiable evidence shows us. "If, then" statements can be made using a fact. It happens all the time, but you may not be able to use facts to back up one half of your otherwise very logical assertion.
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: Metallicus
I think the two types of people are authoritarians vs libertarians
And then there are those of us who believe a little authoritarianism can lead to greater liberty.
Political discourse is truly the way forward in the civilized world.
originally posted by: charlyv
The hate, negative argumentative comments and overall disrespect by some members,
is so detrimental to the site, that in my personal experience, I have to stop reading many of these otherwise informative and interesting threads.
This trending and accelerating behavior (since my join date), just basically has to end, even at the expense of sequestering the big offenders. You can always get your point across without any negativity. People do it for attention probably more than anything else. Cut it out.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: DBCowboy
I could make a politcal joke here, but I think I will refrain!
You want serious?
We bicker and argue and fight and even get banned over things we have no control over.
People forget that the spouse sitting next to you, the children playing in the other room, the good dog at your feet, the food in your larder, the work that you do is the most important things on the planet.
We're only here for 80 odd years. If we're lucky.
Just live, love, laugh.
What is it about a keyboard that makes one feel like they have the sudden power to whip out some self righteous, I'm better than you, undeserved superiority complex is beyond me.
In fact, I can honestly say, one of the people most diametrically opposed to my personal viewpoint I truly believe would be a good friend of mine in real life, even though we both know we vehemently disagree politically.
Political discourse is truly the way forward in the civilized world. I believe this anyway. I welcome opposing views to anything I post here. In the same breath, I take exception to the trollish folks who are bent on just inflicting pain and insults on others.
I don't expect to "boil the ocean", or solve "world hunger" with a post like this, but I truly do hope we can find a common ground where we can discuss our differences politically without resorting to violence and hate for our brothers and sisters.