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So who is "the deep state"

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posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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We hear it alot ,even prominent politicians shout it and say its real. The POTUS says its real.

The deep state , The shadow government.

If you believe the left the deep state is conservatives who collude with foreign nations to steal the election and install a Nazi regime . Because anyone on the right hates everything that isnt white, Christian , and hetero sexual.

If you believe the right the Deep state is...? Well Im not sure..

The MSM obviously has an extreme left bias , so are they the deep state? Are the editors at CNN the "shadow government?"

Or is it the people that own the media? Is it Just rich liberals like Soros and Bezos and Bill gates and Musk.

Are they all sitting around a table once a week deciding what narrative to push?

Who am i supposed to hate for this? Is it Obama?




posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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The "deep state" is the entity behind the establishment agenda that has been active since well before this administration. Its an element within all alphabet agencies in collusion with the mainstream media.

There are actors on both sides politically. This is what I've come to believe over the years.



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
The "deep state" is the entity behind the establishment agenda that has been active since well before this administration. Its an element within all alphabet agencies in collusion with the mainstream media.

There are actors on both sides politically. This is what I've come to believe over the years.


I want names lol..



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: notsure1

No. The term "deep state" refers to career people within government with decision-making power who aren't elected. In right-wing rhetoric recently, it's come to be a catchall for pretty much anyone who isn't in the bubble.



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:17 PM
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So who is "the deep state"

Philosophy majors that could only find a government job. Next question, please.



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:17 PM
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“The Deep State”.

Might consider that if “It” is “Everywhere” and “Everything (that one doesn’t agree with)”...

Then “It” might just possibly be “the normal”, and it is oneself that is the “threat”.


As the old saying goes: “If you keep finding problems with the people around you, maybe it’s you that is the problem”.



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: notsure1

No. The term "deep state" refers to career people within government with decision-making power who aren't elected. In right-wing rhetoric recently, it's come to be a catchall for pretty much anyone who isn't in the bubble.



But there has to be leaders . Head honchos. guys calling the shots..



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: notsure1

Look up the history of the CFR, the trilateral commission and what used to be the private and confidential meetings of the bilderberg group. Look at what they publish openly such as agenda 21 and agenda 30. On the surface it might seem like think tanks for managing the worlds problems, but what is their real agenda?

Do your own research, weigh the facts and come to your own conclusions.



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: notsure1
You could start here, then start digging...Trump himself 'auditioned' for President in the presence of this 'auspicious' gathering.



rationalwiki.org...

more recent,

en.wikipedia.org...






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posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: notsure1

Look up the history of the CFR, the trilateral commission and what used to be the private and confidential meetings of the bilderberg group. Look at what they publish openly such as agenda 21 and agenda 30. On the surface it might seem like think tanks for managing the worlds problems, but what is their real agenda?

Do your own research, weigh the facts and come to your own conclusions.


Ok so no names again.. Just call someone out.. Who is at the top of the deep state In your opinion..



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: smurfy
a reply to: notsure1
You could start here, then start digging...Trump himself 'auditioned' for President in the presence of this 'auspicious' gathering.



rationalwiki.org...



So is Trump teh deep state?



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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But there has to be leaders . Head honchos. guys calling the shots..


Not sure who all is leading the group, but it was once reported that they were all meeting in a church somewhere in the state of Virginia to hold discussions and make their plans.

I would definitely include the likes of John Brennan, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, etc.

There were people on both sides that were desperate to keep a non-politician out of the highest office in the country. They didn't want an outsider that promised to drain the swamp to have access to their corrupt secrets.




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posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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There is no deep state.

The Deep State is a creation used to take the blame for all of the bad things the politicians you voted for have done/are doing.

It's a scapegoat. An excuse. A conspiracy created to distract and deflect from the poor choices you are others have made.



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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To the conspiratorial minded. It used to be called the Military Industrial Complex and/or The Powers That Be. Then Trump became a populist president that conspiracy theorists could get behind, AKA, the power that be. Then Kelly became one of the guys behind Trump. So people could not use a conspiratorial catch all phrase with the word military. Ipso facto, the deep state is the new bad guy Illuminati stand in from central casting.


edit on 15-8-2018 by karmicecstasy because: On the otherhand...There is a CIA, Facebook, CNN, Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences party, going on down the street from me, in my undisclosed location in Virginia



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: notsure1

IF you really want to delve into ''who or what'' is the ''deep state'' then one thing that might help you in that quest is to dump the notion that

If you believe the left the deep state is conservatives who collude with foreign nations to steal the election and install a Nazi regime . Because anyone on the right hates everything that isnt white, Christian , and hetero sexual.


By believing that that is what the ''left' has to offer, you are limiting your flow of information so dramatically that you will never come to understand the nature of that ''deep state''



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: notsure1
Those kind of questions put you in the exclusive "Clinton list"



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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The deep state is an invention of conspiracy theory conservatives and then appropriated by Trump to defend himself from accusations of misconduct and hide his inefficiency.

I can't think of any liberals who believe in the deep state as anything but a fever dream of Donald Trump's.

Traditionally, the deep state is just another name for "they" or "them".
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posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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John Brennan, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, John McCain, Mitch McConnell,


Peons. No way they could be calling the shots. Something this massive has to be organized has to have leaders.

Its not a couple FBI agents..



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: notsure1

IF you really want to delve into ''who or what'' is the ''deep state'' then one thing that might help you in that quest is to dump the notion that

If you believe the left the deep state is conservatives who collude with foreign nations to steal the election and install a Nazi regime . Because anyone on the right hates everything that isnt white, Christian , and hetero sexual.


By believing that that is what the ''left' has to offer, you are limiting your flow of information so dramatically that you will never come to understand the nature of that ''deep state''


That is not what I believe the left has to offer..

That is what I think the lefts "Deep state" is.



posted on Aug, 15 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: karmicecstasy
To the conspiratorial minded. It used to be called the Military Industrial Complex and/or The Powers That Be. Then Trump became a populist president that conspiracy theorists could get behind, AKA, the power that be. Then Kelly became one of the guys behind Trump. So people could not use a conspiratorial catch all phrase with the word military. Ipso facto, the deep state is the new bad guy Illuminati stand in from central casting.



Yep. Central casting rings a bell. THe search for the ''deep state'' that is allowed in conservative circles seems to be a comic book version of authoritarianism, almost a James Bond finds the hidden criminal masterminds kind of thing. In those circles it seems to be a nefarious almost singular entity that once discovered can easily be removed and life can go on.

Adding in perspectives of the left, open that field to not singular entities so much but rather those engaging in commerce and media manipulation which serves their own purposes rather than the purposes of people in general.




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