COLLUSION with RUSSIA CONFIRMED - Hillary Conspired at least TWICE to Affect the 2016 Election.

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: SourGrapes

I didn't say he did.
This thread is about Hillary colluding. Lock her up right.

When we talk of Donald doing it. Eh, it's not a crime.
What don't you understand?

More evidence of Hillary actually colluding than Trump.

This is not an apples to apples comparison.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: carewemust

The FIRST incident of Hillary Clinton illegally conspiring with Russians to affect the 2016 election, was her (and the DNC) funding Russian "research", which led to the FAKE "Trump Dossier", as it's often called.

The Clinton campaign had no contact with Russians. They hired an American detective agency that had originally been commissioned by a conservative group. The investigation led to Russia because that's where the money led. Trump's dealings with Russian gangsters are a matter of public record: Felix Sater, and others.

Assuming that FusionGPS was not in constant contact with the Clinton camp that would be true.
I can't imagine money being spent without her knowledge.

It also does not matter if it was commissioned by a conservative group. The Steele dossier is a product of the agreement between the Clinton camp/DNC/Fusion/Steele/Russian.

Dreyfuss is an "independent" shill.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: SourGrapes

I didn't say he did.
This thread is about Hillary colluding. Lock her up right.

When we talk of Donald doing it. Eh, it's not a crime.
What don't you understand?

More evidence of Hillary actually colluding than Trump.

This is not an apples to apples comparison.

but you just compared it

and collusion is not a crime remember.
dear leader said so. so it is. so it will forever be. bigly.

originally posted by: nOraKat
There is 24/7 collusion with Russia, since before the cold war.

It's the same world government!

That is true and they still want to stomp out the US Constitution because it stands in the way of tolitatarian regime and the end of hope for the poor and middle classes of other nations. We ARE a beacon of hope that the left must destroy to gain ultimate power.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: SourGrapes

I didn't say he did.
This thread is about Hillary colluding. Lock her up right.

When we talk of Donald doing it. Eh, it's not a crime.
What don't you understand?

More evidence of Hillary actually colluding than Trump.

This is not an apples to apples comparison.

but you just compared it

and collusion is not a crime remember.
dear leader said so. so it is. so it will forever be. bigly.

Again you miss the point. Whether its a crime or not there is more evidence of Hillary doing so, and little to none from Trump.

Don't let TDS cloud your reason.

a reply to: TinySickTears

CORRECT. "Collusion" isn't a crime. "Conspiracy" is what gets people indicted.

For a look at how Special Counsel Robert Mueller could tie Russian election interference to American citizens, watch the C-word.

Not coordination or collusion, but conspiracy.

One charge in particular -- conspiracy to defraud the U.S. -- has cropped up in several of the Mueller team’s major cases.

The allegation shows up in indictments of Russian nationals accused earlier this month of hacking into Democratic Party organizations and election infrastructure. Conspiracy charges are significant because they’re building blocks: Once prosecutors allege a conspiracy, they can add more individuals later.

More at: www.bloomberg.com...

a reply to: RalagaNarHallas

Excellent post.

I think we have seen treason by Obama then. It sure appears he was committing treason by this definition. And quite probably both Bush's for their aiding the Saudi version of the Sunni's who attack anybody including our own people and other innocent people worldwide. People are dying from terrorist attacks being imported all over western society by these people. Jihadi's tend to like to do that crap to their neighbors in the ME for not bowing to Allah 4 times a day or some lame selfish reason instead.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: 727Sky


Those punishments are trivial. Attorney General Jeff Sessions needs to DO HIS JOB and start acting on the CRIMINAL REFERRALS that Congress sent to his office!

McCabe, Comey, Lynch, Strzok, and others, were sent to him for Criminal Investigations, dating back to April 2018.

Congressman Ron DeSantis said today that when he contacts the DOJ to ask about the status of these criminal referrals, he's told essentially that Congress is an annoyance to be ignored. That's Nuts!

THIS!

Unless some of these people end up behind bars then this entire show of "firings" is completely meaningless. Three people for sure should be looking at prison sentences and instead they are collecting fat private sector checks.

Comey
McCabe
Strzok

These three SHOULD be in prison.

originally posted by: Gemwolf

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
...The truth is that only one side is guilty of it. The other is just telling the truth...

OR neither side is guilty.
OR the Russians played BOTH sides.

The truth? The truth is that both sides are getting more and more detached from reality. The past 2+ years there has so much political distraction strategies, misdirection, lies, mudslinging and just plain absurdity that it feels like we're living in some horrific twilight zone.

It's really sad that people have become so consumed and divided by politics (the entire circus) - focusing on a single tree - that most have completely lost sight of the forest. It's not new, but IMO it has historically never been this bad.

See, thats the thing. You say everyone is distracted by it all and the distractions/division are stronger than ever, especially in the last two years. I think it was worse during the obama and clinton years than it is now. Are we both partisan or are we both simply making observations that differ?

I honestly cant see both sides employing the same Russian tactic in the same election. That is one hell of a coincidence. And its hard for me to believe the Russians had that much faith in fb memes actually influencing the outcome of an election. But I can believe hillary, after shrieking about not being 50 points ahead, planned to put a Russion in Trump tower and claim she caught Trump colluding. The problem is, doing so IS collusion.

originally posted by: Outlier13

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: 727Sky


Those punishments are trivial. Attorney General Jeff Sessions needs to DO HIS JOB and start acting on the CRIMINAL REFERRALS that Congress sent to his office!

McCabe, Comey, Lynch, Strzok, and others, were sent to him for Criminal Investigations, dating back to April 2018.

Congressman Ron DeSantis said today that when he contacts the DOJ to ask about the status of these criminal referrals, he's told essentially that Congress is an annoyance to be ignored. That's Nuts!

THIS!

Unless some of these people end up behind bars then this entire show of "firings" is completely meaningless. Three people for sure should be looking at prison sentences and instead they are collecting fat private sector checks.

Comey
McCabe
Strzok

These three SHOULD be in prison.

NOT HILLARY? She took her actual consipiring with Russia, and blamed her loss on Trump "conspiring"

Hillary Clinton’s campaign didn’t just pay for the Kremlin-aided smear job on Donald Trump before the election; she continued to use the dirt after the election to frame her humiliating loss as a Russian conspiracy to steal the election.

Bitter to the core, she and her campaign aides hatched a scheme, just 24 hours after conceding the race, to spoon-feed the dirty rumors to an eager liberal media and manufacture the narrative that Russia secretly colluded with her neophyte foe to sabotage her coronation.

But it was Hillary who was trying to kneecap Trump, even after he licked her, fair and square, in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and other blue states.

More at: nypost.com...

Like the article says, Hillary played the liberal press for FOOLS. Well... ;-)

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: TinySickTears

CORRECT. "Collusion" isn't a crime. "Conspiracy" is what gets people indicted.

For a look at how Special Counsel Robert Mueller could tie Russian election interference to American citizens, watch the C-word.

Not coordination or collusion, but conspiracy.

One charge in particular -- conspiracy to defraud the U.S. -- has cropped up in several of the Mueller team’s major cases.

The allegation shows up in indictments of Russian nationals accused earlier this month of hacking into Democratic Party organizations and election infrastructure. Conspiracy charges are significant because they’re building blocks: Once prosecutors allege a conspiracy, they can add more individuals later.

More at: www.bloomberg.com...

Right, and so far only 2 people involved in Trumps campaign have been brought up on “conspiracy” charges. Out of those two ONLY ONE has pleaded guilty to said charge.

a reply to: GeechQuestInfo

Right, and so far only 2 people involved in Trumps campaign have been brought up on “conspiracy” charges. Out of those two ONLY ONE has pleaded guilty to said charge.

And since there is no such thing as a conspiracy of one....

a reply to: Outlier13

Comey
McCabe
Strzok

These three SHOULD be in prison.

Why? What has any of them done that is actually illegal?

a reply to: RalagaNarHallas

So what part of acting as an agent of a hostile power is not "making war or giving comfort?"

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Outlier13

Comey
McCabe
Strzok

These three SHOULD be in prison.

Why? What has any of them done that is actually illegal?

LOL...are you serious or are you genuinely ignorant of the facts that have come forth over the last 16 months?

On Thursday August 16th, another key figure is being interviewed by Congress. Sounds like this may be a GOOD guy who can shed light on the BAD guys?

House Republicans will resume an investigation of the FBI and DOJ’s handling of the Russia investigation on Thursday with a deposition of George Z. Toscas, a national security attorney at the Department of Justice.

Toscas, who handles counterterrorism and counterespionage cases, will appear for a deposition at 10 a.m. before staffers with the House Judiciary and House Government & Oversight Committees, a source familiar with the matter tells The Daily Caller News Foundation.

Toscas is mentioned throughout text messages exchanged between former FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok and former FBI attorney Lisa Page. Strzok and Page, neither of which work for the FBI (Strzok was fired on Aug. 10), mentioned Toscas most often during the FBI’s Hillary Clinton email investigation.

The Washington Post has reported that Toscas was the Justice Department official who reminded then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe about Clinton emails found on Anthony Weiner’s laptop. McCabe had been informed about the emails weeks earlier but failed to take action on them until late-October 2016.

Strzok and Page, who have already been interviewed by the House panels, also mention Toscas in text messages sent at key points in the FBI’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential campaign.

More at: dailycaller.com...

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: SourGrapes

I didn't say he did.
This thread is about Hillary colluding. Lock her up right.

When we talk of Donald doing it. Eh, it's not a crime.
What don't you understand?

More evidence of Hillary actually colluding than Trump.

This is not an apples to apples comparison.

Senator Lindsay Graham is calling for a Special Prosecutor to investigate the FBI:

Claiming that FBI investigations into Hillary Clinton's emails and the Carter Page FISA warrant were "corrupt to the core," U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham on Wednesday called for the appointment of a special prosecutor to handle both probes.

Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said FBI investigators were “in the tank” for Clinton and the FISA warrant process was abused -- possibly in a criminal fashion.

“What do you think Democrats would be saying if a Republican — if the RNC [Republican National Committee] -- hired a former British agent to go to Russia to get dirt on [Hillary] Clinton?” Graham asked Fox News' Laura Ingraham, host of “The Ingraham Angle.”

www.foxnews.com...
I don't know who would appoint this Special Prosecutor. Rosenstein certainly isn't going to. And Jeff Sessions says that he has a government Prosecutor (John Huber) looking into things.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: SourGrapes

I didn't say he did.
This thread is about Hillary colluding. Lock her up right.

When we talk of Donald doing it. Eh, it's not a crime.
What don't you understand?

More evidence of Hillary actually colluding than Trump.

This is not an apples to apples comparison.

Senator Lindsay Graham is calling for a Special Prosecutor to investigate the FBI:

Claiming that FBI investigations into Hillary Clinton's emails and the Carter Page FISA warrant were "corrupt to the core," U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham on Wednesday called for the appointment of a special prosecutor to handle both probes.

Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said FBI investigators were “in the tank” for Clinton and the FISA warrant process was abused -- possibly in a criminal fashion.

“What do you think Democrats would be saying if a Republican — if the RNC [Republican National Committee] -- hired a former British agent to go to Russia to get dirt on [Hillary] Clinton?” Graham asked Fox News' Laura Ingraham, host of “The Ingraham Angle.”

www.foxnews.com...
I don't know who would appoint this Special Prosecutor. Rosenstein certainly isn't going to. And Jeff Sessions says that he has a government Prosecutor (John Huber) looking into things.

It's funny watching them put a spin on the whole thing. Democrat or Republican what's it matter if someone is trying to dig up dirt on you? If you haven't done anything who cares? Oh but the Democrats did find dirt though. I can't wait to see what Muller has on Trump. What do you think it will be? My guess is money laundering and tax evasion.

a reply to: wantsome

It's funny watching them put a spin on the whole thing. Democrat or Republican what's it matter if someone is trying to dig up dirt on you? If you haven't done anything who cares? Oh but the Democrats did find dirt though. I can't wait to see what Muller has on Trump. What do you think it will be? My guess is money laundering and tax evasion.

Obviously, but Giuliani will argue that all of that happened before he was elected, so they are not impeachable offenses.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: SourGrapes

I didn't say he did.
This thread is about Hillary colluding. Lock her up right.

When we talk of Donald doing it. Eh, it's not a crime.
What don't you understand?

More evidence of Hillary actually colluding than Trump.

This is not an apples to apples comparison.

but you just compared it

and collusion is not a crime remember.
dear leader said so. so it is. so it will forever be. bigly.

I sort of agree with you here

I think people reading Smith’s article linked in the op here and focusing on Hillary is a big mistake

Who cares if trump or Hillary workers with Russians to get dirt on the other?

The real issue is what was Obama’s doj and fbi doing?

As the smith article lays out, it looks as if doj member Bruce oher was actively working with Glenn Simpson from fusion gps to set up trump with Simpson’s client, the russian lawyer Veselnitskaya

Texts now show this is likely what happened. In addition, Veselnitskaya met with Simpson the night before and after the trump tower meeting

This would mean the us intel agent was colluding with Russians to set up a presidential campaign, which is the biggest political scandal in the history of the USA

Every single person, regardless of the feelings on trump or Hillary, should be horrified at this prospect and be clamoring for an investigation into it

Sadly, as we see from the msm, they are more interested in attacking trump non stop than being journalists