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"Undetectable" plastic 3D printed guns aren't actually undetectable

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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

[dumbass gun-grabber]But, but what if they make plastic ammo?[/dumbass gun-grabber]


NATO use plastic 7.62 rounds for training, only ten grains though.

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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:13 PM
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why would i bother..that was not what you said in the first place.

You said plastic guns are not being used in crimes or else the msm would report on it and i responded with glocs are plastic then you say that glocs are not plastic they are composite and metal.

Your assumption at the time is that these 3d guns are not being used in crimes. That is just not true cause they have been on the black market long before this round of news. Another poster pointed out that they have been made for decades.

It is funny how you want to change the narrative to now include the 100% plastic bit. It is not important at this point.

You should not worry either way cause i stated before and you are fully aware of is that many water guns have been used in crimes and kids have been shot carrying them.

the point is moot as it always was.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: MerkabaTribeEntity

originally posted by: face23785

[dumbass gun-grabber]But, but what if they make plastic ammo?[/dumbass gun-grabber]


NATO use plastic 7.62 rounds for training, only ten grains though.

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Aaaaaand there's still metal in it.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785

why would i bother..that was not what you said in the first place.

You said plastic guns are not being used in crimes or else the msm would report on it and i responded with glocs are plastic then you say that glocs are not plastic they are composite and metal.

Your assumption at the time is that these 3d guns are not being used in crimes. That is just not true cause they have been on the black market long before this round of news. Another poster pointed out that they have been made for decades.

It is funny how you want to change the narrative to now include the 100% plastic bit. It is not important at this point.

You should not worry either way cause i stated before and you are fully aware of is that many water guns have been used in crimes and kids have been shot carrying them.

the point is moot as it always was.





You're conflating 2 issues. One is 100% plastic guns, the other is guns that have some amount of plastic in them. 100% plastic guns are not being used in crimes. My Mossberg 500 has some plastic on it. What percentage of the gun has to be plastic for you to call it a "plastic gun" and mislead people because the issue here is whether people will be able to easily print 100% plastic guns. They won't.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:18 PM
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Newsflash about the word plastic...

It includes all types of polymers and many can be as tough as nails.

The tech will continue to evolve and harder polymers will be introduced as demand increases.

When talking ammo it is within range to make a polymer case that can be fired but currently you would not want to reload such.

Just because this first round of plastic gun is being touted as not tough it is only a matter of time before better versions come about.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky

Nope, your mistaken... try again

Edit: you are correct, plastic will get better, but it isn't even close right now...
I see a future when I can kill people like you, with my mind!
But until it happens, you can't really convict me of a crime
edit on 13-8-2018 by StephenLongMember because: Clarification



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
Newsflash about the word plastic...

It includes all types of polymers and many can be as tough as nails.

The tech will continue to evolve and harder polymers will be introduced as demand increases.

When talking ammo it is within range to make a polymer case that can be fired but currently you would not want to reload such.

Just because this first round of plastic gun is being touted as not tough it is only a matter of time before better versions come about.


So 100% plastic guns are not being used in crimes? Can you answer that question?



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:26 PM
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You're conflating 2 issues


no you done that and i highlighted that fact in the post you responded too.

currently people can print 100% plastic gun.

the gun that was first built in 2013 had 15 of the 16 parts made from plastic.

all you gotta do is get a composite firing pin

not a big deal and i already linked such for you in another thread

would you like me to hold your hand again and show you where you can get a composite firing pin?

100% plastic and guess what they sell composite nails at most hardware stores and it is just one or two steps to be able to be used in the gun.

now to be technical with you the plans already exist for all 16 of 16 parts to be printed and it is possible but will not hold up well compared to metal but one can spend more money and buy more expensive polymer that is toats able to fire such rounds like the .380 and be 100% plastic

i do not know if people have used such in crimes but definitely 100% plastic guns have been used in crimes.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Newsflash about the word plastic...

It includes all types of polymers and many can be as tough as nails.

The tech will continue to evolve and harder polymers will be introduced as demand increases.

When talking ammo it is within range to make a polymer case that can be fired but currently you would not want to reload such.

Just because this first round of plastic gun is being touted as not tough it is only a matter of time before better versions come about.


So 100% plastic guns are not being used in crimes? Can you answer that question?


the answer is 100% yes

water guns



it is dumb for you to assume that a firing pin being metal would somehow thwart crime.

it would not and one could easily reinstall it after any search.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785




You're conflating 2 issues


no you done that and i highlighted that fact in the post you responded too.

currently people can print 100% plastic gun.

the gun that was first built in 2013 had 15 of the 16 parts made from plastic.

all you gotta do is get a composite firing pin

not a big deal and i already linked such for you in another thread

would you like me to hold your hand again and show you where you can get a composite firing pin?

100% plastic and guess what they sell composite nails at most hardware stores and it is just one or two steps to be able to be used in the gun.

now to be technical with you the plans already exist for all 16 of 16 parts to be printed and it is possible but will not hold up well compared to metal but one can spend more money and buy more expensive polymer that is toats able to fire such rounds like the .380 and be 100% plastic

i do not know if people have used such in crimes but definitely 100% plastic guns have been used in crimes.


So why can't you provide an example of these things being used in crimes? The plans have been available for years? Why do you have to dishonestly change to "But Glocks..." We're not talking about glocks. They're a commercially manufactured gun that has a lot of metal in it.
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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: StephenLongMember
a reply to: howtonhawky

Nope, your mistaken... try again

Edit: you are correct, plastic will get better, but it isn't even close right now...
I see a future when I can kill people like you, with my mind!
But until it happens, you can't really convict me of a crime


na you will never be able to do such

however as i pointed out just search the web for polymer nails....

now tell me why one can not use such to strike a firing pin once?

the only thing one contends with now is the price of the polymer being used to make these guns. it is cheap and the good stuff cost much more money to be able to come in a printable form. however it is out there on the market

you may want to ask yourself why you would feel hate and such for someone that tells you the truth...



there are others that are worthy of such mental efforts but they are slick and usually leave you with a fulfilled feeling after they screw you



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:38 PM
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you want me to give you examples of the msm reporting on crimes that have been committed with 3d printed guns?


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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785

you want me to give you examples of the msm reporting on crimes that have been committed with 3d printed guns?


That are entirely non-metal. The entire point here is whether this technology allows criminals to get their hands on guns that won't be detectable in a metal detector or airport scanner. If you have to put metal in it, it's no more advantageous to a criminal than a commercially manufactured firearm.


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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
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I've seen that story before. I was hoping you'd use that one. Interesting that it doesn't say what the guns were used for, if they were used at all. Here's the other interesting part:


But how easy is it to actually 3D print a workable gun?

It’s been more than three years since a company called Solid Concepts printed the world’s first all metal, all 3D firearm.

At the lower end of the scale the technology is not quite there yet, “but things are moving quite fast,” says Thomas Birtchnell, a senior lecturer at the University of Wollongong who specialises in 3D printing and manufacturing.

“It’s been proven that you can manufacturer on a 3D printer a workable metal firearm of professional quality,” he told news.com.au. “The problem there is that the cost of those printers is $500,000 to $1 million so they are out of the league of most criminal gangs and organisations,” he said.


This is pretty much what we've been trying to tell you. Of course you can make one. You can make one out of paper if you're really dumb. But is it useful? As far as I can tell, none of those guns were used to shoot anyone. The police stress in the story that plastic 3D printed guns are dangerous to the user. We've been telling you this for weeks. That's why you can only find one example. Most criminals don't want these pieces of junk.

They're simply not creating the problem that the anti-gun crowd wants people to believe they are. Criminals want a real gun.
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www.news.com.au... earms/news-story/c2fa2711ebf7b761e3e2f0802a80d1b2
edit on Mon Aug 13 2018 by DontTreadOnMe because: added source, trimmed quote IMPORTANT: Using Content From Other Websites on ATS



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:54 PM
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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 06:27 PM
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the only country where 3d printed guns are already a topic.
'murca.

mid September should be the eta of the next school/mass shooting.


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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 06:33 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
the only country where 3d printed guns are already a topic.
'murca.

mid September should be the eta of the next school/mass shooting.



Apparently you didn't read hh's link. It's been a topic in Australia for years. Don't let that get in the way of your gun control propaganda though.
Facts never have stopped you guys.
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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:10 PM
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Lots....lots of idiots out there mouth breathing on this....everyone forgets about the F'ing Bullets! Life is hard, it's harder when you're stupid!

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