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HARD LEFT- New Poll Shows Most DEMOCRATS Prefer SOCIALISM to Capitalism

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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

He shouldn't have to give up his seat because everybody should be able to attend college regardless of their income. Now a better example would be if everystudent gave up a small piece of their seat then They could make a few more seats.




posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

There's plenty of information on the internet or in a library. The Soviet Union collapsed on the 25th December 1991 in part due to Western military spending that Russia couldn't keep up with. Lots more to it but that'll give you a head start. The fall of the Soviet Union was effectively the end of Russian Communism. It's evolved into a federal state and adopted aspects if "Western" governments.

China is a different beast entirely. Chinese Communism didn't die it evolved, it's the economic capabilities that's the problem with China and how that equates to militaristic, scientific and social dominance. They're on their way in regards to this... Not so much an ideological enemy as an economical one.

China didn't occupy half if Europe after WWII either so there's that, after all it's Europe that is significant ally/allies to the USA. Look up NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) not saying China hasn't occupied nations because they have, we were all too busy with scary Russians


Thank you soooo much!!! It’s nice to have members that are genuinely willing to help another truth seeker out. Some just want to glibly reply how much smarter they are than everyone else. It’s really counterproductive if they wish to change minds. I still believe that without borders we are Mexico thiugh
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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 06:51 PM
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problem with socialism is that is an illusion. Mostly the bureaucracy fails to assert any effective control or public service at all. organized crime and black markets takes over and no one is allowed to talk about it.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: Whatthedoctorordered

Hong Kong, China is the most unregulated economy on Earth. It's the closest thing to free market capitalism that exists.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: Whatthedoctorordered

Hong Kong, China is the most unregulated economy on Earth. It's the closest thing to free market capitalism that exists.



No regulations in certain areas is not a good thing, its far from free market though, I assure you, the communist parties have their hands in everything, and you WILL do what youre told.

I have spent a lot of time in Hong Kong, and though there are some amazing sites to see there, the place is rotten and corrupt to its core unlike anything we have here stateside.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:09 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Working fine?

What part of the $21 trillion debt did you miss?

The biggest creation of that debt is that fabulous socialism.


BS... 19 trillion of that is in personal debt. Mostly mortgages and student loans.


I think you may be wrong 🤧



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: Whatthedoctorordered

originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: Whatthedoctorordered

Hong Kong, China is the most unregulated economy on Earth. It's the closest thing to free market capitalism that exists.



No regulations in certain areas is not a good thing, its far from free market though, I assure you, the communist parties have their hands in everything, and you WILL do what youre told.

I have spent a lot of time in Hong Kong, and though there are some amazing sites to see there, the place is rotten and corrupt to its core unlike anything we have here stateside.


Are you trying to make my point for me?

It sounds like your problem is with authoritarian regimes rather than people taking care of each other, and I would concur.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Which is one reason why Venezuela failed as they relied heavily on high oil prices to pay for socialist programs, but having a socialist economy does not mean that it will not be mixed.

It simply means that we the people will control the companies we work for democratically through shareholder voting rights and/or through unions. Instead of the select few running everything. There will of course still be plenty of capital to be made but everyone would get a fair wage as no one would be at the mercy of the few.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Working fine?

What part of the $21 trillion debt did you miss?

The biggest creation of that debt is that fabulous socialism.


BS... 19 trillion of that is in personal debt. Mostly mortgages and student loans.


I think you may be wrong 🤧


Ya think? How many times do I have to show y'all this before reality sets in?

Mortgage debt is almost 4 times what it was right before the bubble popped. The next one is gonna hurt.

www.usdebtclock.org...


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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:31 PM
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If the Democrats continue to run with this I think they will crash and burn.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:32 PM
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LOL as if socialism is a bad word, as if this is the 50's. You must not like being able to call 911 for those Socialist Fire Department and Police Forces.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: CajunMetal
LOL as if socialism is a bad word, as if this is the 50's. You must not like being able to call 911 for those Socialist Fire Department and Police Forces.


Strawman argument

The sort of socialism that these groups want to implement would be vastly vastly more invasive then what we have now.

Were in huge debt as a country as it is, it would not be sustainable.

Not to mention they want open borders to go with it, you can have one of the other but you cant have both, we would be venezuela within 5 years if that.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: CajunMetal

Socialism is when the goveenment owns the means of production

Whats that have to do with what you just said?



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Historically speaking socialism has never been properly deployed as greed and selfishness has always brought it down. (Also if at any point the government outright controls a business/ industry that is not socialism that is fascism and/ or totalitarianism.)Same as any democratic and/ or capitalistic society given enough time.

Socialism is the next evolutionary step after capitalism as socialism requires capitalism in order to create a diverse and sustainable economy and capitalism will ultimately require many aspects of socialism(i.e. every worker has a say in how their workplace is ran as a right to help mitigate corruption and having a healthy and educated populace is necessary to have a healthy economy)



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: CajunMetal

Socialism is when the goveenment owns the means of production

Whats that have to do with what you just said?


Who would you like Trump to appoint as your new Fashion Czar?

And don't deflect this time.




posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

No it is when society/ the people own the means of production. Totalitarianism is when the government runs the show



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: toysforadults

No it is when society/ the people own the means of production. Totalitarianism is when the government runs the show


You are quite entitled to own the means of production, you just have to create it.
The problem comes in when some one else deems that they should have the means that you create, and the state should expropriate it on their behalf.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 07:52 PM
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Democrats seem to favor Socialism over Capitalism


Seeing as how Capitalism is destroying the world, is massively corrupt, and is bankrupting and torturing millions of people to make a few evil, spoiled, undeserving people richer than God, of course people are waking up and realizing that only socialism can provide a stable and sustainable society.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: CB328



Democrats seem to favor Socialism over Capitalism


Seeing as how Capitalism is destroying the world, is massively corrupt, and is bankrupting and torturing millions of people to make a few evil, spoiled, undeserving people richer than God, of course people are waking up and realizing that only socialism can provide a stable and sustainable society.


Another one that speaks wonders about socialism and never lived in a socialist country.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: neo96

The biggest creator of that debt was trying to share a little democracy with a few middle eastern countries. Clinton gave Bush a massive surplus and Bush decided to start 2 wars. Which jacked up the deficit and of course our debt. Then came the" free market"/greedy businessmen/ Republicans that created the housing bubble and subsequent recession and caused Obama to raise the deficit even more to fix what was already broken by the Republicans



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