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HARD LEFT- New Poll Shows Most DEMOCRATS Prefer SOCIALISM to Capitalism

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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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Socialism is not bad, but it will not work in a country this big very well. Plus a real lot of the people living here are spoiled, they do not want to work in the fields picking veggies or doing anything that involves physical work. Socialism recognizes that all jobs are meaningful, nobody is better than the other person. People's attitudes are getting worse with that over the years, money is more and more worshipped these days. If these democrats were to know what they will lose in socialism they would back the hell up and go the other way.




posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: neo96

These guys a have a fix to fund SS. Bet it wont happen though. I did not know that payroll tax for SS was capped at $127k.

"The Democrats' thesis is that the wealthy should shoulder more of the load. As noted above, the maximum earnings cap as of 2017 prevents the payroll tax from being applied to earned income above $127,200. Democrats have suggested lifting this earnings tax cap to a figure between $250,000 and $400,000 (essentially giving earned income between $127,200 and $250,000-$400,000 a free pass, then reinstituting the payroll tax), or even removing the cap altogether and taxing all earned income.

Removing the payroll tax earnings cap altogether would only impact about 10% of the population, which is what makes it such a popular choice among the public. It would also completely eliminate the program's cash shortfall.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, Republicans have been pushing the idea of raising the full retirement age, or FRA. Your FRA, which is determined by your birth year, is the age at which you become eligible to receive 100% of your retirement benefit. The FRA began increasing by two months per year in 2017 from 66 years, and it'll continue to do so until it hits 67 years by 2022.

Republicans have proposed further increasing the FRA to 68, 69, or 70 years to account for increased longevity. Raising the FRA forces seniors to wait longer to get 100% of their due benefit or to claim early and accept a steeper cut in benefits. This solution fixes Social Security's shortfall, too."

See easy peasy if they wanted it to be.
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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:21 PM
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"The Democrats' thesis is that the wealthy should shoulder more of the load.


Tell Democrats to read the GD 14th amendment.



Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


www.law.cornell.edu...

That means even rich people.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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Democrats prefer socialism until they find out they are the one's who have to pay for it.... they always assume some unknown "rich guy" is the one who is going to be footing the bill.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Did you bother to read about the cap of 127K? It merely says to tax ALL income EQUALLY.
Jeezus.
So the richer folks aint paying their share in effect, but get the same bennies. Personally, I think only people that make X amount of $$ per month at retirement shouldn't even be eligible for it.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

They also don't get anything close to what they put in... If you are going to remove the cap then you also have to remove the cap for benefits you can draw at retirement.

Taxing me all my working life and then telling me I can't draw benefits because I also was responsible and saved for my retirement in other areas is bullsh*t. You can put that idea way up your rear end and smoke it.






edit on 13-8-2018 by Edumakated because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

The most insidious part of it is that social security should be a benefit you buy into, not a tax you draw from. The proof in this is that someone who didn't work may not meet the earning minimum to qualify.

The one thing Uncle Sam does not want is to stiff me on the money i've paid in. My response would definitely make the news.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:35 PM
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Again
Socialism is an economic system like capitalism.
Socialism has its good sides and bad sides just like capitalsm.
The core of capitalism is free market and it knows no borders or nationalities. Capitalism only recognizes profit.
Many of you who endorse capitalism and dislike socialism but want closed borders and American companies to return to the US are in fact ideologically closer to national socialism than capitalism.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: introvert

your comments are like fresh air! thanks! peace from munich!



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:44 PM
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Remember that these polls ask questions in weird ways. So just because the data shows this, it isn't necessarily the case.

Like "Do you have have a favorable view towards Socialism?" and "Do you have a favorable view towards Capitalism?"

That's not a real conclusive thing.

If you just got fired and have never had a lot of money in your life, you may have an unfavorable view of Capitalism. Or if you like Bernie Sanders and keep hearing the term "democratic socalist" you may feel great towards socialism.

and how about this...the USA is very much a social democracy and we are a lot like a socialist country already.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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Then they are not democrats.

They are socialist posing as democrats.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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No F'n dah!.. Really? This is a "revelation"? Really needed a "poll" to interpret this? Lol!



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Oooh, tough guy alert! Maybe your foul attitude is your problem. I've worked all my life to, but have consigned myself to never being able to draw the first check.

Besides, the article stated that ending the cap would fix the SS deficit.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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A stunning new poll released by Gallup shows a majority of Democrats now prefer “socialism” to “capitalism,” signaling the shocking new direction of the party just months before American voters head to the polls.




Just eight years ago, 53% of those asked said they held a positive view of socialism. That number rose to 57% in 2018.



I guess they know most people can't be asked to read past the headline.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
Democrats prefer socialism until they find out they are the one's who have to pay for it.... they always assume some unknown "rich guy" is the one who is going to be footing the bill.


I'm curious, do you actually believe this?



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:53 PM
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The one thing Uncle Sam does not want is to stiff me on the money i've paid in. My response would definitely make the news.


They already spent your monies.

They will give you someone else's monies.

Uncle Sam is like a honey badger...




posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied

originally posted by: Edumakated
Democrats prefer socialism until they find out they are the one's who have to pay for it.... they always assume some unknown "rich guy" is the one who is going to be footing the bill.


I'm curious, do you actually believe this?


Yes. Next question....



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied

originally posted by: Edumakated
Democrats prefer socialism until they find out they are the one's who have to pay for it.... they always assume some unknown "rich guy" is the one who is going to be footing the bill.


I'm curious, do you actually believe this?


Yes. Next question....


The next question would be, don't you find this expression rather simplistic? A little too simplistic perhaps?



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied

originally posted by: Edumakated
Democrats prefer socialism until they find out they are the one's who have to pay for it.... they always assume some unknown "rich guy" is the one who is going to be footing the bill.


I'm curious, do you actually believe this?


Yes. Next question....


The next question would be, don't you find this expression rather simplistic? A little too simplistic perhaps?



Not really. If you watch Democrats it is always a "do as a I say, not as I do..." type of attitude. You get all this "tax the rich" talk but then liberals turn around and try to minimize their own taxes.

Here is a really good example of what I am talking about. In this clip, Dinesh D'Souza is debating with a college student. The college student is going on about "white priviledge", etc. Dinesh brilliant ask him why he doesn't give up his seat at his prestigious college so someone with less opportunity can attend.




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