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Unite the Right 2018

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posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 07:21 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Absolutely both ends of the fringe should be nipped in the bud, I'm not comfortable with this kind of crap creeping into these boards though.. So I'm gonna call it out if I see it..




posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 09:05 AM
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I hate to pee on the campfire but my conclusion is that the people comprising both the "far right" and "far left" are so few in number as to be meaningless. They're actors on the political stage for the news corporations, that's all. Neither one affects any of our lives so why do we invest so much time and energy talking about them?

99% of the people don't like either bunch and just want to be left alone to do what they want.
Work, play, raise kids, enjoy life.
Screw these 1% !



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

In this day and age, perception trumps reality.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

one person dead, around 38 injured..
charlottesville down town area practically locked down on the unite the right's one year anniversary with hundreds of state troopers sitting around there waiting for whatever to happen..

na they don't effect anyone's lives!!!
unless of course, it's your city or town that is chosen for that 1%'s next battleground!!!



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: WarPig1939


Which one?

The KKK or the others?



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: dawnstar

The Fields incident was tragic but had nothing to do with the rally. It happened well after the protest was broken up and it was DSA (Democratic Socialists) and others marching without a permit that were hit by Field's car. Zero to do with the UTR rally.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: dawnstar

The Fields incident was tragic but had nothing to do with the rally. It happened well after the protest was broken up and it was DSA (Democratic Socialists) and others marching without a permit that were hit by Field's car. Zero to do with the UTR rally.


You just hit another vital point. In America we want freedom. That includes freedom to protest. I shouldn't need a permit to protest something. MLK didn't get permits for his marches. Gandhi wasn't going to get any permits. Jesus wasn't going to get any permits.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

not all of those 38 were injured in that accident...
some of them were injured the night before at the statue, ya know the great tiki torch march... WHICH DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT!! there were permits given for the counter protesters though, they had two locations by what I understand. and there were people moving from one location to another all day. so, even if was a unpermited march, that would only lead one to question, why was it okay in your mind for the separatists to have their tiki torch march the night before, but not these people. it seems like they are blameless in some people's minds while they claim that the victims of the violence (who by what I can tell were mostly local residents or student of the college!!) were at fault for just being there!!
and quite frankly, I wasn't just talking about the unite the right people...
I was talking about all of those who decided it was such a bright move to converge on the city! ya, blame the residents for being in the city that they call home, blame the city when they fail to control the mob, blame anyone but your precious white separatists who forced the city to host them, refused to change the location because the city said it would be hard to control it there, force them through court orders... I call bullsh...t on that bit! that permit didn't give the separatists rights to those streets, and it didn't include a march carrying tiki torches the night before!


it's not accurate to say that it doesn't effect those who aren't in that 1% or so that consists of the troublemakers (for lack of a better word.)
hundreds of cops assigned in charlottesville for this weekend because the FBI, the State Police, along with the Local police have found some reason to believe something is going to happen... hundreds of state police that just may be needed elsewhere. hundreds of state police that are paid for by the state's taxpayers. around 32 blocks if I am remembering right, including the ymca, putting up with road closures, restricted parking, limited access... business owners losing business, residents in the area, some of whom may not be able to transport themselves to where ever their car may be.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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interesting video...




posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: dawnstar

I won't condone the tiki torch march and you're right about the injured; one man was bashed in the head with a flashlight walking to his car and another old man was hit from behind in front of the parking garage. The Left did their fair share of assaulting people that day if you really look in to it. When the Right left the park they were followed - why? The protest was over but instead of letting them just leave they harassed and assaulted them.

I don't condone White Nationalists but I do think they had a right to protest same as anyone else. 2 State Police troopers also died that day when their helicopter crashed but no one seems to care about them. Were they victims of the Alt-Right? The only reason they had to be out was because counter protesters came looking for trouble, blocking entrance to the park, throwing bottles of urine and bags of feces, one guy even had a homemade flame thrower. Yeah they were so peaceful, all love and flower power.

It takes 2 to tango or in this case create a violent scene.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Metallicus

It's amazing how often the side that claims to be for personal responsibility blames the victim.

It's very telling that when a Nazi killed a woman in cold blood you side with the Nazi's actions.


I am absolutely saying she had personal responsibility for putting herself in a war zone. She was not innocent as she CHOSE to be there making it her fault as being injured or killed was foreseeable.

She had no legitimate reason for attending the rally as a member of either side. She got what she deserved for being stupid. You can continue being obtuse if you like, but we just have different views of what happened.

At this point you are making a choice to be ignorant...just stop.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

the warzone came to her town... there was no way you can convince me that the driver of that car could tell weather or not she was a protestor, or just someone just trying to get home from work, or going about her business, nor could you convince me that he really cared, who she was or what she was doing...
it was the driver, and the rest of the mob THAT REALLY HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THERE!!!



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 10:40 PM
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I cant believe the amount of people on here who seem to have no problem with the nazis and white supremacists yet they hate the left vigorously.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
I cant believe the amount of people on here who seem to have no problem with the nazis and white supremacists yet they hate the left vigorously.



"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
-Voltaire


Do you understand now?

Free speech, free expression is one of the pillars of a free society.



posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 12:15 AM
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All this 'in-fighting' between Americans polarised by diverse ideologies, begs the question to be asked...your history is what it is/was, so seeking to expunge a statue here, or some other monument there, will never change that history, nor its record held by other forms of media, so why attempt to eradicate it?

You confront shameful aspects of one's history by teaching the truth of it, and use that truth to ensure such shameful history is never allowed to repeat itself, because you can be certain that it will repeat itself if it is made hidden and forgotten. The fact is, if you remove the statue, you should also remove the Constitution from public viewing, as that document was not only 'racist' by what it omitted, but also sexist as well.

The Constitution was the establishment of America as a 'white' nation, and was written at a time while the establishing white culture was annihilating the already established 'red culture' of the Indian tribes. Neither the Indians of America, nor the Africans brought to America as slaves were included in the Constitutional statement that '...all men are created equal...'. What of women, even 'white' women? They too, were not included. Why was that? Simply because America was founded as a patriarchal nation, and it still remains so to some extent.

Of course, my point is that one cannot be selective towards historical shame. The Confederate states fought their side of the American civil war out of a shameful ideology, and no matter how they might try, no once Confederate state can distance itself from that shame. It should remain in-situ and on view as a reminder of one's shameful past. Good or bad, one's history is one's history, and not a single scene of it should be expunged.

Our histories mandate that we are better in the present day, but we have to view it and listen to it without putting veils around it to soften the criticism. Our histories show us the way to be better, but we can't be better if we hide or forget history.

The problem isn't your history, your problem on this issue is your modern-day ideology. Both right and left are being driven by a zealous hate of each other, and what this clearly shows is that as Americans, you have not moved on from the ideological schisms of the Civil War. Not only do you remain in their grip, but that the historical schisms have widened by social fracture by social fracture throughout the whole landmass of America.

The youth of the left has neither the experience nor the wisdom of it to fully connect or understand the cause they think they are fighting for, whilst the maturity of the right remains ignorant and unmoving in the rut of familiarity of a shameful past they ignore. However, it's not statues or monuments that either side is fighting for, it is belief.

America is still a work in progress, and it has a long, long way to go, before it settles down.
edit on 12/8/18 by elysiumfire because: (no reason given)




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