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posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: network dude

Lol, this OP is delightfully obtuse in recognizing the hypocrisy on display....

What kind of person needs to come lament/decry how upset other people are ? You'd think if they were all so upset they'd be doing it enough on their own without your help in calling it out.....

The reality of course being the OP has to have some ingrained subconscious issue with it and is lashing out by couching their feelings behind others via transference.


One could say the same about your reply. I know you think you're above it all but you're engaging in the same thing, just one step down the totem pole. Well done.


Except I'm not lamenting Trump's inevitable 2024 victory or any of the nonesense in his OP, so unfortunately your smarmy retort is wasted.


So it only counts if you're saying the exact same thing he is?

Wouldn't that make your smarmy retort to the OP inapplicable since he isn't saying the same thing as the people he's criticizing?

Nice corner you've backed yourself into there.


There's no corner aside from the imaginary one you seem to think exists. If you can shut your mind to critical thinking to the point that any statement made is a mirrored representation of itself then there isn't much point in me trying to educate you out of that black hole of nonsense.

Its a poor excuse for cleverness couched behind a nonsensical opinion.




posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: chr0naut

We were fighting socialists.


If you look at WWII as a fight between fascists and communists, we fought with the communists.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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Got to agree with your sentiment that the Dems should be forwarding a positive platform and people but...


originally posted by: network dude
As it appears, the more you "resist", the more those in the middle seem to be disenchanted with you, so I guess keep being you, and it will be great for one side.


Speaking as one in the middle the blind devotion and loud, and oft times disingenuous manner of Trump's supports turns people aff as well.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: network dude

Lol, this OP is delightfully obtuse in recognizing the hypocrisy on display....

What kind of person needs to come lament/decry how upset other people are ? You'd think if they were all so upset they'd be doing it enough on their own without your help in calling it out.....

The reality of course being the OP has to have some ingrained subconscious issue with it and is lashing out by couching their feelings behind others via transference.


One could say the same about your reply. I know you think you're above it all but you're engaging in the same thing, just one step down the totem pole. Well done.


Except I'm not lamenting Trump's inevitable 2024 victory or any of the nonesense in his OP, so unfortunately your smarmy retort is wasted.


So it only counts if you're saying the exact same thing he is?

Wouldn't that make your smarmy retort to the OP inapplicable since he isn't saying the same thing as the people he's criticizing?

Nice corner you've backed yourself into there.


There's no corner aside from the imaginary one you seem to think exists. If you can shut your mind to critical thinking to the point that any statement made is a mirrored representation of itself then there isn't much point in me trying to educate you out of that black hole of nonsense.

Its a poor excuse for cleverness couched behind a nonsensical opinion.


Again, this all could be applied to your post. It's hilarious that you don't see that because you think you're too smart to be part of a herd. You're just in a different herd.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: chr0naut

We were fighting socialists.


If you look at WWII as a fight between fascists and communists, we fought with the communists.


How many times do we hear that "communism isn't socialism" and vice versa?



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: network dude

Lol, this OP is delightfully obtuse in recognizing the hypocrisy on display....

What kind of person needs to come lament/decry how upset other people are ? You'd think if they were all so upset they'd be doing it enough on their own without your help in calling it out.....

The reality of course being the OP has to have some ingrained subconscious issue with it and is lashing out by couching their feelings behind others via transference.


One could say the same about your reply. I know you think you're above it all but you're engaging in the same thing, just one step down the totem pole. Well done.


Except I'm not lamenting Trump's inevitable 2024 victory or any of the nonesense in his OP, so unfortunately your smarmy retort is wasted.


So it only counts if you're saying the exact same thing he is?

Wouldn't that make your smarmy retort to the OP inapplicable since he isn't saying the same thing as the people he's criticizing?

Nice corner you've backed yourself into there.


There's no corner aside from the imaginary one you seem to think exists. If you can shut your mind to critical thinking to the point that any statement made is a mirrored representation of itself then there isn't much point in me trying to educate you out of that black hole of nonsense.

Its a poor excuse for cleverness couched behind a nonsensical opinion.


Again, this all could be applied to your post. It's hilarious that you don't see that because you think you're too smart to be part of a herd. You're just in a different herd.


It has nothing to do with herd mentality. You can't claim that recognizing hypocrisy requires hypocritical actions to do so. Its just idiotic circular logic.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: network dude

Lol, this OP is delightfully obtuse in recognizing the hypocrisy on display....

What kind of person needs to come lament/decry how upset other people are ? You'd think if they were all so upset they'd be doing it enough on their own without your help in calling it out.....

The reality of course being the OP has to have some ingrained subconscious issue with it and is lashing out by couching their feelings behind others via transference.


One could say the same about your reply. I know you think you're above it all but you're engaging in the same thing, just one step down the totem pole. Well done.


Except I'm not lamenting Trump's inevitable 2024 victory or any of the nonesense in his OP, so unfortunately your smarmy retort is wasted.


So it only counts if you're saying the exact same thing he is?

Wouldn't that make your smarmy retort to the OP inapplicable since he isn't saying the same thing as the people he's criticizing?

Nice corner you've backed yourself into there.


There's no corner aside from the imaginary one you seem to think exists. If you can shut your mind to critical thinking to the point that any statement made is a mirrored representation of itself then there isn't much point in me trying to educate you out of that black hole of nonsense.

Its a poor excuse for cleverness couched behind a nonsensical opinion.


Again, this all could be applied to your post. It's hilarious that you don't see that because you think you're too smart to be part of a herd. You're just in a different herd.


It has nothing to do with herd mentality. You can't claim that recognizing hypocrisy requires hypocritical actions to do so. Its just idiotic circular logic.


I made no such claim. You're still guilty of the same thing you criticized the OP for though. Speaking of circles, that was an awfully big one to come back to that. Nice try.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: chr0naut

We were fighting socialists.


If you look at WWII as a fight between fascists and communists, we fought with the communists.


How many times do we hear that "communism isn't socialism" and vice versa?


In the case of the Nazis, they actually were socialists but history defines them as fascists. Nazi government heavily subsidized all types of things. They just weren't aligned with the international bolshevik movement controlled by the Jews.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out what these people are trying to resist.

Employment?
A future?
Independence?

Most of these morons didn't even read the signs on the bandwagon when they hopped on.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: network dude

Lol, this OP is delightfully obtuse in recognizing the hypocrisy on display....

What kind of person needs to come lament/decry how upset other people are ? You'd think if they were all so upset they'd be doing it enough on their own without your help in calling it out.....

The reality of course being the OP has to have some ingrained subconscious issue with it and is lashing out by couching their feelings behind others via transference.


One could say the same about your reply. I know you think you're above it all but you're engaging in the same thing, just one step down the totem pole. Well done.


Except I'm not lamenting Trump's inevitable 2024 victory or any of the nonesense in his OP, so unfortunately your smarmy retort is wasted.


So it only counts if you're saying the exact same thing he is?

Wouldn't that make your smarmy retort to the OP inapplicable since he isn't saying the same thing as the people he's criticizing?

Nice corner you've backed yourself into there.


There's no corner aside from the imaginary one you seem to think exists. If you can shut your mind to critical thinking to the point that any statement made is a mirrored representation of itself then there isn't much point in me trying to educate you out of that black hole of nonsense.

Its a poor excuse for cleverness couched behind a nonsensical opinion.


I made no such claim. You're still guilty of the same thing you criticized the OP for though. Speaking of circles, that was an awfully big one to come back to that. Nice try.


Sadly you're wrong again.

As I've already said (and you've failed to grasp); I'm calling the OP out for the hypocrisy of complaining about folks who complain too much. They best you can manage to summon argument wise is, 'oh but you calling him out is the same thing', is just so disappointingly amateur that if I didn't know you as a poster I'd have thought you were a low effort troll poster.
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posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: network dude

Lol, this OP is delightfully obtuse in recognizing the hypocrisy on display....

What kind of person needs to come lament/decry how upset other people are ? You'd think if they were all so upset they'd be doing it enough on their own without your help in calling it out.....

The reality of course being the OP has to have some ingrained subconscious issue with it and is lashing out by couching their feelings behind others via transference.


One could say the same about your reply. I know you think you're above it all but you're engaging in the same thing, just one step down the totem pole. Well done.


Except I'm not lamenting Trump's inevitable 2024 victory or any of the nonesense in his OP, so unfortunately your smarmy retort is wasted.


So it only counts if you're saying the exact same thing he is?

Wouldn't that make your smarmy retort to the OP inapplicable since he isn't saying the same thing as the people he's criticizing?

Nice corner you've backed yourself into there.


There's no corner aside from the imaginary one you seem to think exists. If you can shut your mind to critical thinking to the point that any statement made is a mirrored representation of itself then there isn't much point in me trying to educate you out of that black hole of nonsense.

Its a poor excuse for cleverness couched behind a nonsensical opinion.


I made no such claim. You're still guilty of the same thing you criticized the OP for though. Speaking of circles, that was an awfully big one to come back to that. Nice try.


Sadly you're wrong again.

As I've already said (and you've failed to grasp); I'm calling the OP out for the hypocrisy of complaining about folks who complain too much. They best you can manage to summon argument wise is, 'oh but you calling him out is the same thing', is just so disappointingly amateur that if I didn't know you as a poster I'd have thought you were a low effort troll poster.


It's a fact that you're complaining that someone else is complaining about somebody complaining. No amount of your word-salad spin will change that. You can have the last word so you can sleep tonight. You're still just part of the herd.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: network dude

Lol, this OP is delightfully obtuse in recognizing the hypocrisy on display....

What kind of person needs to come lament/decry how upset other people are ? You'd think if they were all so upset they'd be doing it enough on their own without your help in calling it out.....

The reality of course being the OP has to have some ingrained subconscious issue with it and is lashing out by couching their feelings behind others via transference.


One could say the same about your reply. I know you think you're above it all but you're engaging in the same thing, just one step down the totem pole. Well done.


Except I'm not lamenting Trump's inevitable 2024 victory or any of the nonesense in his OP, so unfortunately your smarmy retort is wasted.


So it only counts if you're saying the exact same thing he is?

Wouldn't that make your smarmy retort to the OP inapplicable since he isn't saying the same thing as the people he's criticizing?

Nice corner you've backed yourself into there.


There's no corner aside from the imaginary one you seem to think exists. If you can shut your mind to critical thinking to the point that any statement made is a mirrored representation of itself then there isn't much point in me trying to educate you out of that black hole of nonsense.

Its a poor excuse for cleverness couched behind a nonsensical opinion.


I made no such claim. You're still guilty of the same thing you criticized the OP for though. Speaking of circles, that was an awfully big one to come back to that. Nice try.


Sadly you're wrong again.

As I've already said (and you've failed to grasp); I'm calling the OP out for the hypocrisy of complaining about folks who complain too much. They best you can manage to summon argument wise is, 'oh but you calling him out is the same thing', is just so disappointingly amateur that if I didn't know you as a poster I'd have thought you were a low effort troll poster.


It's a fact that you're complaining that someone else is complaining about somebody complaining. No amount of your word-salad spin will change that. You can have the last word so you can sleep tonight. You're still just part of the herd.
'

Well if that nonsense worldsalad you just vomited forth is in fact correct (and I'm not admitting such), then welcome to your own club you goober.

Even walking into your own Oruboros of absurdity probably won't open your eyes....



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire
The way the left is acting? It is no where near what is being perpetrated today. If you even think it is close we will have to agree to disagree.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: Ansuzrune
I don't like the way the left is acting either.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 05:24 AM
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This is the trophy for everyone generation, these liberals just dont know how to react when they lose.

Losing breaks them down mentally

I just can't wait until the next election, the Democrats will reall go full retarded in pandering to BLM, LGBTQ antifa, muslims and illegal aliens.

That is there target base, that is the future of the party.

Anyone else with half a brain and an actual citizen will run to the Republicans



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire
Sorry old guy here misunderstood you.



posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: network dude


Do you think that all those on the right will just forget how you acted?


That is an interesting question as it seems that those on the right have already forgotton how THEY acted with Obama. Many are still focusing on Obama two years after his terms were up. All this ''you guys'' stuff is a never ending circle.


How the Right acted under Obama ?
Because we dared to oppose him ?
That Obama that used the IRS against political opponents like some Third World dictator, which no one ever did in the US before Obama ?

Under Obama, unlike with the Left now, the Right never even came close in vitriol.

SANDERS IS THE FIRST WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY THAT HAS REQUIRED SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION IN US HISTORY!!
Let that sink in....


The US went to war against the extreme right.

Patriots died fighting them.

America used to be staunchly moderate.

There's not much difference between the extreme right and extreme left. The model is more circular than linear.



The US did go to war with the NAZIs, and rightly so!

However, the Right in the US are not NAZIs, despite your child-like understanding of politics




More seriously, by making your asinine comparison, you are insulting the memory of those that fought the real NAZIs, as well as the millions of Holocaust dead.


The point I was making was that historically, America was moderate and conservative.

You seem to be siding with extremists.


Trump is not an extremist.

Only in the mind of a lunatic leftist would defending the EXISTING laws, which America HAS HISTORICALLY DONE, such as concerning the border, would be considered "extremist".

Again, "extremist" is demeaning the dead by dismissing their suffering under the real Nazis. But then, the Left never cared about the dead:
total death toll of between 85 and 100 million peopleen.wikipedia.org...

So, you either don't care about the dead, despite your virtue signaling "compassion", or like the OP said, you are "slow"


The Nazi party were called "National Socialists" to attract people away from left wing communism and socialism. The initial modifier word is because they were nationalist, which is actually against socialist doctrine. Nazi's were undoubtedly extreme right wing.

As I proposed earlier, both the extreme left and the extreme right are very similar when examined from a politically moderate stand-point. Try and imagine a graph with the horizontal axis pointing left and right and the vertical axis being level of extremism. The most apt way to describe political intent on such a graph is a circle with the moderates at the bottom, in the middle, and the extremists at the top, in the middle. In such a graph, there is little that separates the extreme right and the extreme left, in fact, they touch.


People since 2016 claim the Nazis weren't socialists really because they think nationalism is purely a right wing think.

But take one look at how a self identified "Socialist" country like China operates

They don't like foreigners, you cannot as a non native Chinese obtain Chinese Citizenship, you could live there your whole life, you will never get an ID that other Chinese have, you will never have the same representation in their laws, and you will never have all their rights.

China is a perfect example in today world of a Nationalist thinking nation
Everyone acts like "America First" is a Nazi policy but what is China doing but protecting their interests above all others in the world?

My point is, you can't claim the opposite is true for a historic group when we have countries today that exist with the exact same Nationalist policies, the only reason you don't think they are comparable is not due to facts,

but a lack of research into what they have done in the last fifty years alone much less historically to protect their policy of nationalistic sovereign independence from the demands of a world that tried to exploit them long g before anyone exploited America

It's about occupying the world to them, not being occupied by the world. Same with Russia,.
And now thanks to Bush, Obama and Trump, America is protecting or working to curb the Globalist agenda, not just against Exploitation, But against Denationalisation as well.

A powerful country doesn't import problems, they export them. Just look at history and you will see the truth I speak.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: AutisticEvo

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: network dude



People since 2016 claim the Nazis weren't socialists really because they think nationalism is purely a right wing think.


The Nazi's have been ultra-right-wing extremists since they started in 1920, as about far right as it is possible to be.

And the Nazi's, as a government, were defeated in 1945.

I'm not sure about what 2016 has to do with anything in regard to Nazism, unless you are implying that Trump & co are Nazi?


But take one look at how a self identified "Socialist" country like China operates

They don't like foreigners, you cannot as a non native Chinese obtain Chinese Citizenship, you could live there your whole life, you will never get an ID that other Chinese have, you will never have the same representation in their laws, and you will never have all their rights.


BS - China is far less racist and far more friendly to other nations than the US. That is reflected in it doing so well with world trade.

Also, just look at the amenable way they dealt with Macau and Hong Kong.

In 2016, an Amnesty International report found that Chinese people were some of the most welcoming to refugees in the world.

The Chinese also have a very workable system of naturalization like most other 1st world countries: Nationality law of the People's Republic of China, Naturalization, From Wikipedia


China is a perfect example in today world of a Nationalist thinking nation
Everyone acts like "America First" is a Nazi policy but what is China doing but protecting their interests above all others in the world?


There are Chinese nationalists just like there are American socialists. It is a big, very populous and ethnically diverse country, more so than the US.

The current government of China defines itself as communist. They are very left-wing.

Trump's "America first", in actual policy, appears to be more like 'America in isolation'. Trump has gone about like a bull in a china shop, wrecking trade agreements, pulling out of diplomatic groups and even accusing his allies of all sorts of nonsense.

I don't think Trump has the slightest idea about how to raise America's ascendancy, so he is building walls, not only on the border but also in trade and diplomacy.

China has not been as expansionist in the last two centuries as America. It also supplies its own oil and most of its raw resources (unlike America), so it can afford to be comfortable in itself.


My point is, you can't claim the opposite is true for a historic group when we have countries today that exist with the exact same Nationalist policies, the only reason you don't think they are comparable is not due to facts,

but a lack of research into what they have done in the last fifty years alone much less historically to protect their policy of nationalistic sovereign independence from the demands of a world that tried to exploit them long g before anyone exploited America

It's about occupying the world to them, not being occupied by the world. Same with Russia,.
And now thanks to Bush, Obama and Trump, America is protecting or working to curb the Globalist agenda, not just against Exploitation, But against Denationalisation as well.

A powerful country doesn't import problems, they export them. Just look at history and you will see the truth I speak.


But you think Nazi's were socialists! Goodness sakes!

Despite the jingoistic rhetoric, America just isn't 'better than the rest of the world' by a long shot:

- It leads the world in gun fatalities.
- It leads the world in incarceration (both per capita and total numbers).
- It cannot survive on its own resources.
- Its government does things that contravene its constitution, bill of rights and declaration of Independence.
- It is cutting off free trade.
- It is cutting diplomatic links.
- There are in-country drug abuse issues which continue to dealt with inappropriately.
- There are major issues of poverty and homelessness (both the IMF in 2016 and the UN in 2018 have released reports calling for the US to do something to resolve the situation where over 40 million people live in poverty and over 5 million people live "in ‘Third World’ conditions within the US).
- During the 20th century, no other country has participated in as many armed conflicts as the US.
- Americans are still dying of preventable medical issues because they cannot afford insurance for enormously overpriced medical care.
- America was one of the last nations in the world to abolish slavery and there are still indications that racism is affecting rights on a racial basis (i.e: a disproportionate representation in prison populations and unbalanced funding for education and social services).

And neither the Democrats or the Republicans are going to be the solution because the issue is with the American people and how they think and act.

The idealization of America, like in the early DC and Marvel comics, was, and is, simply not true.

America was NEVER the land of the free and the home of the brave. It is an angry, unstable, expansionist and dangerous republic even to its citizens and closest allies (like it did with Britain during WW2 with the atom bomb projects) as well as anyone who just wants fair trade and peaceful existence.

That's the truth.

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