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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: TinySickTears
You need to understand that Biblical religion is always a joint operation, God and humans working together.
Look closely, and you will see that the bad stuff comes from the human contribution.
I've done a whole series on how that works for the social laws of the Pentateuch.
(Actually, this is probably a "Conspiracies in Religion" thread)
originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: TinySickTears
All I can say to this is when you are standing there in the funeral home, looking at your mother in a box, it helps to believe in something.
originally posted by: Annee
Politics can be and should be about laws based on logic and need.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Annee
Politics can be and should be about laws based on logic and need.
And then you throw those pesky humans into the mix. Religion can be and should be about love and respect...damn humans screw things up every time...
originally posted by: Annee
Actually religion steals mans power.
Politics can be and should be about laws based on logic and need.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Annee
Actually religion steals mans power.
Politics can be and should be about laws based on logic and need.
Politics gives a select few men power over all others. Religion at least has the common decency to give that power to a being worthy and strong enough to handle it.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: TinySickTears
All I can say to this is when you are standing there in the funeral home, looking at your mother in a box, it helps to believe in something.
Funerals are for the living.
What is the point of looking at a dead vessels in a box?
What's a "great" last memory.
Not in my world.
originally posted by: ClovenSky
So what about one of the most persecuted religious branches of abraham? The one that believes they are gods chosen people. That have at the heart of their religion a term for themselves and another term for everyone else, the non chosen. How many atrocities have arisen from this belief?
You are not allowed to lie, cheat or steal from a fellow believer but if you are non chosen, it is their duty to deceive as much as possible to get the best terms. They can easily break contract with the non chosen because it is impossible to give their 'word' to the non chosen. But if they are dealing with their own, honor and respect are mandatory. When you see high practitioners spitting as required upon the relics of the non chosen, should that be considered harmless and accepted because of 'belief'?
When they gain sufficient concentration in numbers, all others become persecuted and poorer due to the business tactics of the concentrated? Is it just a dog eat dog world and if you allow yourself to be used, it is your fault? If others are more successful, then their version of religion is correct? Even at the expense of all the non chosen? Why do they own the majority of the press? Why do they own the majority of hollywood? Why are they so concentrated in finance? Why is it perfectly acceptable to practice usury on the non believers but unacceptable for themselves?
Is it OK to complain about the other 2 branches but this one is sacred? To call one of the other branches barbaric and uncivilized but excuse the other 2 that originated from the exact same source?
I just think it is funny to look unfavorably on one of the branches while giving the others a pass.
Edit to add:
The bolshevik revolution wasn't non religious persecution. It was full of one of the sides of religion.
I will let you guess, unless you actually wanted to research a bit.