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Progressives Criticize Berkeley Police for Publishing Antifa Protester Identities

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posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: oloufo

I can create pretty graphs too and make them say anything that I want.




posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: SprocketUK


What else would you expect from the ADL????

That bunch and the SPLC are about 2 of the most corrupt, authoritarian groups in existence.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: JIMC5499

That's quite the pathetic accusation, I'll give you that. It doesn't change the numbers though, care to put something up to refute them?



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: seeker1963


Oh, I harbour no illusions, just pointing it out to the person that posted it. Hell, I bet there's a graph on some neo Nazi site that shows everything is the fault of whatever ethnic group they dislike too, doesn't mean we should just take them at face value. Maybe Facebook would like to ban the ADL for being fake news along with Mister Jones?



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: JIMC5499

That's quite the pathetic accusation, I'll give you that. It doesn't change the numbers though, care to put something up to refute them?


Kind of hard to dispute fiction. The Anti Defamation League ranks right there with the Southern Poverty Law Center.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: JIMC5499

Well. Maybe you could point me to all those vile Antifa murder cases when you're done splitting dreadlocks?



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: Diisenchanted

it's fascinating to see people living in their bubble. and its sad. because you are the real sheep and you dont even know it. you are helping the far-right to grow. did your grandfather fight against nazis or against antifacists? tell me. do you realize that all this neonazis around the world are celebrating folks like you? they celebrate trump, they celebrate putin, they celebrate breitbart and all this crap. they celebrate them, because they spread chaos and fear. we do have antifa in germany, yes, and sometimes cars burning and windows get smashed. i know some activists. they sometimes act stupid, but they never killed anyone in opposite to neonazis and racists. so, why you people dont stand up against the far-right-movement? i dont get it.





posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

Would you prefer the report the government published last year that states Right Wing extremists have been responsible for the majority of terror attacks since 9/11 while Left Wing extremists have been responsible for zero?
edit on 8/9/2018 by Xcalibur254 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: oloufo

Cant compare US and german politics. In Germany Democrats in the US would be considered right wing. Germany is much further to the left than the US. So here parties like the german right would be far left and groups like the AFD would be considered anarchist.

I dont think Americans realize how close democrats and republicans are compared to European standards. How ever socialism is starting to show in US politics so im not sure how long this will be true.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: SprocketUK

Would you prefer the report the government published last year that states Right Wing extremists have been responsible for the majority of terror attacks since 9/11 while Left Wing extremists have been responsible for zero?


Nope, because then we get into a circle jerk about what constitutes right and left, what terrorism is etc.

Answer me this though, is Islamic terrorism right or left wing? In your opinion.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

It's categorized as its own entity. Right Wing extremists committed more terror attacks. Muslim extremists racked up a higher kill count primarily thanks to the Pulse Nightclub massacre. And Left Wing extremists didn't commit any terror attacks.

It's amazing how much this site fears groups like Antifa. Meanwhile a much smaller group like Atomwaffen has killed way more people, has training camps in the desert, and had plans to blow up a nuclear power plant.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Funny how when Nazis were getting doxxed last year this site threw a fit.


So, the same posters are literally posting the opposite?

Sauce or can it



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: SprocketUK

It's categorized as its own entity. Right Wing extremists committed more terror attacks. Muslim extremists racked up a higher kill count primarily thanks to the Pulse Nightclub massacre. And Left Wing extremists didn't commit any terror attacks.

It's amazing how much this site fears groups like Antifa. Meanwhile a much smaller group like Atomwaffen has killed way more people, has training camps in the desert, and had plans to blow up a nuclear power plant.


Antifa hatred isn't about terror attacks though, it's about them stopping other people's freedom of expression y turning up mob handed and wrecking things.



Convenient that islamic terror is its own thing, isn't it? Haha.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

Convenient in what way? Muslim extremists have their ideology rooted in religion, not politics. Most of them also end up being foreign nationals. So it makes sense to give them their own category.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

If the ATS search function wasn't the worst thing since Hitler I would provide some threads.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254


I asked because they tend towards a form of right wing, religious conservatism, yet are always identified with the left, who seem to be the ones generally trying to cover up for them with such things as the graph I mentioned.

Trying to hide the truth, however cleverly, serves no one really, there was zero point posting that graph in this thread as it was about people who had been arrested carrying out crimes being identified publicly (and the stats were carefully doctored to show what the person paying for the study wanted to see- Just as they always are)

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posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: oloufo

Thank you for the morning chuckle.

It's obvious to all of us why you don't get the reason why people would oppose and detest fascists using fascist tactics under the guise of anti-fascism.

Here are all of the idiots, in case you missed it:



Society's shining beacons, for sure.
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posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

yeah, I literally had an over whelming desire to say: "Derp!"



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: SprocketUK

It's categorized as its own entity. Right Wing extremists committed more terror attacks. Muslim extremists racked up a higher kill count primarily thanks to the Pulse Nightclub massacre. And Left Wing extremists didn't commit any terror attacks.

It's amazing how much this site fears groups like Antifa. Meanwhile a much smaller group like Atomwaffen has killed way more people, has training camps in the desert, and had plans to blow up a nuclear power plant.


The left had a few Workplace violences happen though. AKA terrorism.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

I just said that anybody can make a graph and have it read anyway they like. That's all I said.



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