It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

One black night at Boscombe Down in 1994 - rumors, evidence, etc.

page: 1
7
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 02:06 PM
link   
This comes over and over again. There are particular places around the world where mind blows, especially when it comes to military aviation and things related to it. Late 80's and early 90's was a time of increasement capabilities both in coatings(yes, I'm referring to stealth), systems and propulsion methods. F-117 came out of black and was used during Desert Storm. B-2 was made back then. Only one can hazard a guess and say what was going on during that time but there is evidence of strange things that has happened then. I'll provide SoCal skyquakes as a good example.

Time goes by but there are things that may stay black for a long, long time. One of the events, that is typed as urban legend today, is Boscombe Down incident that occured in 1994. Internet is full of false info or BS stories but there are places and certain aviation sites, military workers and their buddies that can give some light on the things they 'may' heard of.
I can only guess about credibility of informations I've heard but I was fortunate enough to talk with some people that 'may' know some not-so-white things.

I will say it again, I'm not sure whether the infos I've heard are true, so please take it with a big grain of salt!

What I've heard from my crystal ball(s)? :
(this is something I have really hard time when trying to believe it but who knows?) It was a take off incident, not a landing one.
The aircraft was colored black and gray.
The aircraft was had a stealth capabilities
C-5 came for the aircraft and took it to KPMD(Plant 42 site)
The aircraft was in the UK because of the exercises(well, that is interesting...)
The aircraft was after Full Operational Capability, so it rules out of it being demonstrator or prototype.
The aircraft was there at Boscombe for more than 24 hours before the incident
The UK was involved in program as it was cooperation between US and UK.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to cross-check with my other source which stated that the aircraft was just a test platform that failed on take off.

No way to know what is a true and what's not but that is what I was able to collect. ATS is an amazing site and it is always a pleasure to post here.

Cheers!

edit on 8-8-2018 by SpeedFanatic because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 03:09 PM
link   
Someone did cover this story here maybe a few years ago, nothing conclusive though.



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 03:27 PM
link   
Dam, we've gone over this quite a bit in other threads.

I thought we said it was a boost glide vehicle of some sort. Or am I thinking of something else?



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 03:52 PM
link   
a reply to: grey580

I am literally writing a podcast episode on this topic right now and I haven't found much. If you could link a few of those threads I'd be eternally grateful



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 04:29 PM
link   
There are so many black projects running and folks keep obsessing over something that was pretty much a non event.

Oh well.



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 04:34 PM
link   
a reply to: anzha

Keep people looking over there, while stuff is going on over here.



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 09:40 PM
link   
a reply to: hawkguy

Site:abovetopsecret.com boscombe down

Google is our friend here. Plenty of material to read.



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 09:51 PM
link   
a reply to: grey580

To read yes, but unless it's changed a good deal from the last time I checked in on it... still not a lot of specific details.
I believe Zaph may have hinted this is the aircraft of which an image was captured, and the picture in the open for an extremely short time.... before someone became rich and the picture vanished...

My personal guess is some child of the YF-23, likely modified for EWAR/Recon? Maybe the F-117's always shy partner? Granted, this is based on nothing more than the description.

I would love for this bird to come out and take a bow someday. The idea of it has captured many hours of my time.
~Winter



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 09:55 PM
link   
Boscombe Down is so yesterday.





posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 10:13 PM
link   
a reply to: Zaphod58

I can think of at least 5 black projects I really, really wanna see that are out flying now.



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 11:09 PM
link   
a reply to: Winterpain

There are maybe about half a dozen known unknowns fitting the description of the Boscombe event. At least sort of.
And people *in the know* are not in short supply either, but everyone has a different opinion on about what exactly it was.

I don’t think this riddle can be solved. Even if they eventually reveal all black projects from that time. Which wont happen either of course.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 12:46 AM
link   
a reply to: Winterpain

I'm not sure about these pictures being open. The aircraft has nothing to do with YF-23 or amazing Companion but idea of it being after FOC makes me wonder. Still curious me if it was "something" operated by USAF or just leased by USAF whilst owner would be some Intel agency.

Seems there were other black aircraft in use during the Gulf War 1. They used bases you would call just as staging points as of lack of buildings etc. None of them operated during the day.

Edit.
Let's guess a little. It was said there were pictures of the Boscombe aircraft. Given the fact that it was operational(as it reached FOC) I'm trying to link it with convo between Astr0, Zaph and few other members a few years ago.


Astr0
Lets have a wee little wander down through history then shall we?

QUARTZ.

Tier 3+

Funny little story behind it.

It made the B-2B look small change. Unmanned, technologically the most advanced airframe ever put into the skies even as a demonstrator.

Colour changing eyes in the skies for the B-2B. Hunting and sending target data to the B-2B fleet to strike mobile ICBMs, VLO that made the B-2B look like a flying barn door, and was designed to stay in orbit over the most heavily defended airspace there has ever been in history.

They canned it, the USAF got 20 B-2Bs.

Linked? they say not, but what good is a mobile ICBM strike aircraft if its got no eyes on?

Oh, and as a side note, the partner aircraft was often at RAF ##### ######


I'll leave you to do the digging. (hint - the now deceased Graham Birdsall had a pair of photosof it and the MoD slapped him down like a tonne of bricks - from from RAF ##### ####### and one from hill walkers in the Pennines)




Astr0
We need VLO escort jammer... just like (see Graham Birdsall's photo collection)



originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Astr0

Gee just did a search and can't find his photo collection. Wish I could find it though. Would love to take a look at some of those pictures. A little odd he just died suddenly .




originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: BASSPLYR

HAH! Good luck with that one. They nuked, with extreme prejudice every single copy of those pictures that they didn't outright buy from him, for a RIDICULOUS amount of money. I've tried every way I could think of to find them, and they are just gone.



originally posted by: IamSirDrinksalot
Are there any Royals there?

So just to confirm, an airyplane was spotted over the penines that is a super secret stealth aircraft from america thay may have been based at BN even thought its more of a logistics hub for the RAF and not a shared UK / USAF base.

There is also another picture from a guy who has since passed that the RAF spent a fortune buying but may be available.

Want to see these pictures!



originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: IamSirDrinksalot

Those pictures are long gone. They were of something else, other than this aircraft, but they've been destroyed.


I'm not sure how to read that but it seems Astr0 is telling that pictures taken at RAF Brize Norton and over Pennines were of Companion, as he referred to it as VLO escort jammer... but Zaphod not agreeing with that.
edit on 9-8-2018 by SpeedFanatic because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 05:17 AM
link   
Not a photo but a bit of art...
www....(nolink)/wp-content/uploads/Quest-mag-cover.jpg



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 10:28 AM
link   
I meet Graham Birdsall at a UFO conference back in the day, wish I knew about the "photo" back then!!



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 11:20 AM
link   
a reply to: SpeedFanatic

Do you have ANYTHING new? This all looks like the same stuff over and over...



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 01:41 PM
link   
a reply to: anzha

Heard the involved aircraft had nothing to do with any of the fastmovers but was just a small test platform, but, as I said before that doesn't seem right as Zaphod said it was post FOC.

BTW look into your PM's on here.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 02:36 PM
link   
Quoting myself from last year....


originally posted by: Imagewerx
Aaaaahhhh you just gotta love how urban legends grow and grow with time!!!!!

The more likely (although way less exciting) answer was that it was a Tornado towing a drogue chute that failed to retract properly,hence the reason the local police closed the road because it had ropes across it.Everything else that allegedly makes it a cover up was just part of the every day business that is Boscombe Down that has been carefully woven into the story to make the conspiracy angle seem more likely.
They had visits from USAF heavy transports at other times and being a test base there was no real 'normal' visitor for BD.Apart from the local spotters and sensation seeking tabloid newspapers who really wanted some top secret black ops aircraft to have crashed there (they can't even agree if it was taking off or landing),the more mundane explanation is the more likely one.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 02:39 PM
link   
Oh and this one as well......


originally posted by: Imagewerx
This is the best and most coherent explanation I've read about this incident....


Like all conspiracy theoreis, what starts as one simple incident, gets snowballed out of all proportion due to soemone (generally who desperatly wants to belive something in the first place) adds 2 and 2 togther, and makes a huge number. For what it is worth, and people who believe the conspiracy theory will not believe me, I worked at Boscombe at that time and can perhaps shed sone light on some of the bits of the equation: 1. There was an incident on a Tornado which was doing trilas with a towed decoy, which failed to retract, hence the shutting of the main road outside the base. 2. There are generally American exchange pilots at Boscombe (at the time, it was Rick Husband I think, the shuttle commander during the Colombia accident). 3. A C5 was at Boscombe to take (or bring back) a helicopter from AUTEC. 4. The unmarked Boeing 707 was an Italian Air Force tanker at Boscombe for AAR trials. 5. The Agusta 109 was at Boscombe for trials. 6. The Gulfstream was a VIP aircraft. (Interesting aside. It was Tom Cruise visting Nicole Kidman who was in the local area making a film. Heale House- Portrait of a Lady). 7. The rolling deck was just being delivered from Bedford. Covered in tarpaulin. All of these things happened in the space of a few days. As I said 2+2 is a huge number


www.pprune.org...

As I remember it at the time,the idea that it was some sort of fantastically secret stealth plane didn't start to propagate until some time afterwards.The idea started with 'we couldn't see what they were doing,therefore they must be hiding something' and blossomed into a full blown episode of the X files with the smoking man seen wandering around outside the hangers.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 03:20 PM
link   
a reply to: Imagewerx

That's very, very close to what I heard, but when I was online in 94, it did show up within a couple weeks after the incident that there was 'something.' Unfortunately, the old usenet archives google has (what used to be dejanews) is pretty useless and unsearchable. Otherwise, I'd tell folks to go look a rec.aviation.military.



posted on Aug, 9 2018 @ 03:58 PM
link   
a reply to: anzha

I heard through a friend who knew one of the controllers at the then national air traffic control centre at West Drayton (now at Swanwick) the basics of the above story.

Oddly enough I drove past Boscombe Down just two weeks ago and wondered when this subject would pop up again.



new topics

top topics



 
7
<<   2 >>

log in

join