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originally posted by: BlueAjah
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: BlueAjah
Blah blah blah blah blah..
It is such a pleasure conversing with intelligent, mature people.
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: JoshuaCox
how did they win Hillary the popular vote and get Trump elected?
I notice none of you slows want to answer this..
it's called the electoral college...read up on how it functions, and you'll have your answer.
originally posted by: Metallicus
What exactly do you consider collusion?
Talking to a Russian national? Having a meeting?? Doing business?
I mean wth even is it you object to?
I have yet to hear anything that would be criminal.
secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
acting in collusion with the enemy
§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects. 1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).
Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 5, 2018
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
The most interesting part of the whole trump/Russia collusion debacle is what precedent it would set for the American people...
If they establish that trump did nothing illegal. Then it is basically a get out of jail free card for every tom , dick and Harry to do the same..
Hell one of us ATSers could help Iran, Palistine or North Korea install their choice candidate...
I just have a hard time believing they will want to establish that precedent for everyone..
originally posted by: damonster
originally posted by: Metallicus
What exactly do you consider collusion?
Talking to a Russian national? Having a meeting?? Doing business?
I mean wth even is it you object to?
I have yet to hear anything that would be criminal.
Collusion
secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
acting in collusion with the enemy
Criminal actions by either foreign nationals or affiliated U.S. citizens aimed at influencing U.S. elections would be subject to prosecution under various U.S. statutes.
Logan Act
§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects. 1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).
Don Jr.’s Trump Tower meeting
Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 5, 2018
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: JoshuaCox
I work with a Russian named Vlad. No BS.
WE LAUGH at people like you. Collude all day long.
Vlad is the man.
How do you think regular Russians feel about all this? Is it fair to them? WTF did they do?
originally posted by: SecretsoftheBlueApples
In fact Yes...the State Department's entire mission is to collide with foreign entities, hence the quick use by Hillary Clinton in claiming Trump did this with Russia. In Fact.... it's not a Crime at all, so all this poo flinging is political theater to keep the Untermenchen busy while that sweet, sweet Zyklon B is stirred up like green Kool Aid....
a reply to: JoshuaCox