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posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Words

They are staying out of those companies' business. No government entity has forced Twitter, Facebook, Apple, or any other social media platform to do anything.


That's demonstrably false.


The operators of social networks that are subject to the law now have to delete “obviously illegal” content within 24 hours of being notified. Other illegal content must be reviewed by social networks within seven days of being reported and then deleted. If the complaint management requirements are not met, fines of up to 50 million euros may be imposed. This puts companies under tremendous time pressure to check reported content.


Germany set out to delete hate speech online. Instead, it made things worse.




posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Just wait, the left Wing whackjobs are next. That's how censorship works. Nice to see you embrace your captor. Bet you'd love a Communist China model in the USA. The Lefties are already clamoring for a Socialist candidate for prez.
edit on 7-8-2018 by thepixelpusher because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Words

That is Germany's problem. I live in the US and the social media companies in question here are also located here. So we are talking about US law. Germany didn't force Apple to remove AJ's podcasts so this point you made here is irrelevant.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

Ok. I don't care if left wing wackjobs get kicked off of social media either. Maybe if you'd attempt to understand what the 1st Amendment covers and doesn't cover you'd understand that you are making a big deal out of nothing.

Bet you'd love a Communist China model in the USA.

TIL: Following the Constitution and free market forces means you want a Communist styled government.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Words

That is Germany's problem. I live in the US and the social media companies in question here are also located here. So we are talking about US law. Germany didn't force Apple to remove AJ's podcasts so this point you made here is irrelevant.


Sorry but the US isn't the only country with "government entities". Facebook is liable for someone else's hate speech, thank you to government intervention. Germany is threatening social media companies with massive fines to remove what they deem as illegal content. That's not the free market.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: Words

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Words

That is Germany's problem. I live in the US and the social media companies in question here are also located here. So we are talking about US law. Germany didn't force Apple to remove AJ's podcasts so this point you made here is irrelevant.


Sorry but the US isn't the only country with "government entities". Facebook is liable for someone else's hate speech, thank you to government intervention. Germany is threatening social media companies with massive fines to remove what they deem as illegal content. That's not the free market.


There is no such thing as a free market.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Words

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Words

That is Germany's problem. I live in the US and the social media companies in question here are also located here. So we are talking about US law. Germany didn't force Apple to remove AJ's podcasts so this point you made here is irrelevant.


Sorry but the US isn't the only country with "government entities". Facebook is liable for someone else's hate speech, thank you to government intervention. Germany is threatening social media companies with massive fines to remove what they deem as illegal content. That's not the free market.


There is no such thing as a free market.


The free market is a principle.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: Words

Germany has banned hate speech in its country since the 1940s and end of Nazi Germany. If this is suddenly a HUGE issue to you because of this jackhole then I'd say you aren't paying attention well enough.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Words

Germany has banned hate speech in its country since the 1940s and end of Nazi Germany. If this is suddenly a HUGE issue to you because of this jackhole then I'd say you aren't paying attention well enough.


Network Enforcement Act came into effect of Jan this year.

Facebook has over 2 billion users, nearly a quarter of the planet, but you just tried to reduce it to the US only and subject only to US laws. I don't think you're pay attention enough.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Words

Volksverhetzung

Volksverhetzung, (the official English translation of the German Criminal Code uses "incitement to hatred"[1][2]), is a concept in German criminal law that refers to incitement to hatred against segments of the population and refers to calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them, including assaults against the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning, or defaming segments of the population.[1][2][3]


Also, Facebook has to navigate international laws. That is their own issue. But you can't force another country to honor this crazy idea of free speech that you have in your head.
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posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

You're funny. The government subsidized social media companies are NOT a FREE market anymore. They just adopted the Communist controlled style of so-called free speech. But, looks like their communist clients are starting to grab them by the balls. But hey, according to you extortion and censorship IS THE FREE MARKET!


China Threatens Apple With "Anger And Nationalist Sentiment" If It Doesn't Share The Wealth

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posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

So exercise your own power over the free market; don't use those platforms anymore! I've already said in this very thread that I already don't use Apple products and Facebook is something I rarely use as well. Whining that this isn't fair isn't going to change anything, nor is it going to gain you any sympathy.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Words

Volksverhetzung

Volksverhetzung, (the official English translation of the German Criminal Code uses "incitement to hatred"[1][2]), is a concept in German criminal law that refers to incitement to hatred against segments of the population and refers to calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them, including assaults against the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning, or defaming segments of the population.[1][2][3]


Well Facebook has to navigate international laws then. That is their own issue. But you can't force another country to honor this crazy idea of free speech that you have in your head.


What does that have to do with anything? Nothing.

Network Enforcement Act came into effect of Jan this year. The point is, Facebook and other social media companies are under pressure from governments to curb speech.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: Words

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Words

Germany has banned hate speech in its country since the 1940s and end of Nazi Germany. If this is suddenly a HUGE issue to you because of this jackhole then I'd say you aren't paying attention well enough.


Network Enforcement Act came into effect of Jan this year.

Facebook has over 2 billion users, nearly a quarter of the planet, but you just tried to reduce it to the US only and subject only to US laws. I don't think you're pay attention enough.


uncalled for stuff, etc...
edit on 7-8-2018 by primus2012 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I've already exercised my freedoms by moving to platforms that are free speech platforms like SteemIt. Maybe you'd like to join me there.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: primus2012

originally posted by: Words

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Words

Germany has banned hate speech in its country since the 1940s and end of Nazi Germany. If this is suddenly a HUGE issue to you because of this jackhole then I'd say you aren't paying attention well enough.


Network Enforcement Act came into effect of Jan this year.

Facebook has over 2 billion users, nearly a quarter of the planet, but you just tried to reduce it to the US only and subject only to US laws. I don't think you're pay attention enough.


I think like all on the left he just repeats what the ladies on The View say. Not much thought goes into it.


That was uncalled for.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

Meh. I'm happy with ATS, Reddit, and Discord for now.
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posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Just wait, the left Wing whackjobs are next. That's how censorship works. Nice to see you embrace your captor. Bet you'd love a Communist China model in the USA. The Lefties are already clamoring for a Socialist candidate for prez.


He probably wants us all to have "social" credit scores like China does because he imagines his will be the biggest and best and he can whip it out to impress everyone with.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Words

The point is that you are trying to tell a business how to conduct its business. That is really the story at the end of the day. As I told pixelpusher, if this bothers you so much use your own power to not use those platforms anymore. However, your whining isn't going to change anything. It is 100% legal and no it doesn't infringe on free speech rights.
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posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I've already exercised my freedoms by moving to platforms that are free speech platforms like SteemIt. Maybe you'd like to join me there.


Then why should you care what other people use as their platform. It's capitalism pure and simple. Allow people to make up their own mind and let the market place decide who stays, and who goes.
edit on 7-8-2018 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



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