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British Media Anti Labour Party Smear Campaign

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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 06:47 AM
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And the every man for himself attitude of some whom should know better.

Today in the UK one of our two main political party's, the moderate left Labour party is under constant criticism and attack by among other's right wing Jewish Group's and the mainly Privately owned Media in a concerted effort to tarnish the party and to blacken it and its' current leaders reputation in a desperate but highly orchestrated attempt to swing public support away from it.

Now all party's in the UK have a mixed demographic, all party's have both pro Israel and anti Israel element's within them (I am pro Israel myself though have reservations about some of there policy's to put it mildly).

Recently the Labour party under this concerted and I dare say orchestrated attack by right wing media and the self serving interests of some within the party whom are more interesting in safeguarding and advancing there own political careers has been rocked by allegation's and claim's of anti antisemitism, strange for a party which has had more than one Jewish leader wouldn't you agree and which has always had an anti fascist stance and indeed still does today.

Recently the current leader of the Labour Party was forced to issue a written statement disavowing comment's and opinions at a rally he attended some year's ago.
One of that rally's speakers was actually a Holocaust survivor whom was critical of Israel's treatment of non Jewish people and regarded them as acting like fascists but of course that is only one opinion among surviving holocaust survivors now isn't it or is it.
www.bbc.co.uk...
And to there shame the state of Israel is leaving many of these survivors to live in abject poverty which for a state founded upon there suffering is surely shameful.
www.telegraph.co.uk... ml
But this is not about Israel's policy's it is about the constant orchestrated attack of recent month's using anti Semitic allegations to try to destabilize the labour party and to turn voters away from it.

SO it is under this cloud of attack so easy to miss the Real fascist wolf while the sheep is being accused of eating it's own brethren so it behooves me to point out some fact's about there main competitor on the British political stage the Tory Party or as they prefer to be called these day's the Conservative Party whom it so happen's have a long history of anti Semitic claim's and allegations.

Here are a few of the headlines from recent years about the Conservative's.
medium.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
evolvepolitics.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Despite the raft of Anti Semitic evidence about anti Jewish Tory Party Members why then is there not a furure akin to that currently being aimed at the Labour Party which has traditionally been far more pro Jewish than the Tory's ever were?.

Who Exactly is behind this concerted attack.

Money Men fearing Labour, fearing Labour's plan to re-nationalize some of the Cash Cow industry's they helped themselves to with there Conservative Cohort's.

Or is it just tabloid's attacking them as they do any institution.

Of course there IS anti antisemitism in all party's within the UK, they draw there electorate and there membership from the population whose moral and political compass varies wildly as well as from community's across the nation but generally speaking Labour is the party which is the only truly democratic institution within British politics and was made far more so by there reduction in membership costs making it far easier to join the Labour Party.

Being partially Jewish myself my sensibility's lie with Israel's right to exist BUT I do not agree with many of there action's or policy's - they do have to defend themselves and do indeed need a buffer zone but need to take a stand back and look at how THEY are acting toward there own minority's, they are surrounded by potential and very real enemy's though so?.

I find anti antisemitism in all it's form's unacceptable BUT can understand how easy it is to tar and feather everyone in a group because of the actions of a few.


Please do not lead this thread into a debate therefore about Israel but about the current problem's and attempt to brainwash the British electorate by the controlled media.

Feel free to add allegation's and report's for and against with your own comment's, I shall now leave this to you to debate and shall watch from the ropes as I feel I have made my own opinion on the matter eminently clear and that is that I believe it is a concerted effort to strip support from Labour ahead of the next major election and to blacken the party by trying to tarnish it's reputation.

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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 07:27 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767




why then is there not a furure akin to that currently being aimed at the Labour Party which has traditionally been far more pro Jewish than the Tory's ever were?

Because the Labour party have a leader who has consistantly spoken out against the illegal actions of Israeli governments past and present and dared to voice support for the downtrodden Palestinian people , Tories haven't had such a leader.



Who Exactly is behind this concerted attack.

In my opinion it's coming from those most opposed to those who would speak out against Israeli actions.
If you've not seen this then I suggest watching all 4 parts , this 4th part is the final expose of where the allegations are coming from.

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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Corbyn will gather support, then dissipate it. He's a pied piper who uses bait to lure his prey.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Thing is the U.K need to take a considerable part of the derry regarding the creation of the nation in question considering our past involvement.

That's being said all this anti-Corbyn rhetoric that surrounds the current predicament is nothing more than window dressing for our masses, a distraction from our own problems really, and an attempt to have us look the other direction whilst "They" carry out there agenda and plan regardless.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 08:02 AM
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To suggest that Jews and the state of Israel subvert and twist politics in the UK to suit themselves is, apparently, anti-Semitic and any politician saying so is obviously a Hitler supporting Nazi and needs to be removed from office and their lives utterly destroyed for evermore!

Ironically, they then go on to prove the point by controlling the narrative, smearing people and subverting the political system.



We also see who the bought and paid for, or plain fearful, politicians are as they all parrot the anti-Semitism line demanding things are done etc....etc! Whether they privately agree or not doesn't matter as these days it's all about visibility and being seen to support something, not whether they actually do!

I remember seeing a clip a few years back, during the Israeli "Cast Lead" operation I think, filmed in parliament where one MP stood up and made some random statement in support of the Israeli operation, totally off topic to what was previously being discussed. This was then followed by a succession of back bench (mostly) MP's all taking it in turns to stand up and add their support. The statements were almost verbatim and I don't think I have ever seen a more scripted or puke inducing display. Of course, it also showed once again the subversion at work.

I am certainly no fan of Corbyn or many of those he surrounds himself with, but this smear campaign needs to be stamped out right now. I hope one day we will actually get some leadership that tells Israel and this self-serving and damaging minority to shut the hell up and put the UK first and foremost.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

It doesnt matter if peoples of Jewish decent are acting like Nazi's, you criticize their methods and you're an ANTI-SEMITE!

Get with The Programming or go back to, well, somewhere else!



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Sorry but as a former Labour voter (left until Corbyn is gone) you are wrong. There is an anti-Jew problem in Labour and they have already admitted to it on a few occasions and claimed to be doing something about it but haven't done anything. I'm not saying media and the like aren't doing bad things to get an agenda pushed which trust me we all know they are and do but Labour is in this situation because they've allowed it to happen and done nothing to change it. Corbyn is the death of the party. He will lead to another five years of Tories in our country which means more damage done to the poor. You just have to look at those he has supported in the past to realise who he is and what he stands for.

I should say I'm not against some of his ideas, publicly owned trains, post office and even Power should be brought back to help the poor and those who are worse off but he is not the man to lead the party and until such time that he is gone then Labour will see more and more people float off to UKIP which is growing in number thanks to him. Corbyn as the leader needs to do more he needs to stand up and not only admit to the problem but also actually do something about it, he is connected with to many bad people (a quick google replaces me listing them all).



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 09:03 AM
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It's convenient to call it Labour's problems a "smear campaign", but it's not.

After all, over the last few months all sorts of worms have been exposed, including recently Peter Willsman (a Corbyn ally) ranting that "Trump fanatics" were making up stories of anti-Semitism, thus exposing the Labour Party groupthink to ridicule.

The problem of anti-Semitism runs deep, which is why Labour's deputy leader, Tom Watson, has now started to assert himself and demand that the problem of anti-Semitism is dealt with. Note that he's admitted the Labour Party has a problem.

No conspiracy to tar Labour. Just a Labour leadership that has been slow to act and a leader who has done some questionable things in his past with ant-Semites, which he has not properly explained, although for which he is "sincerely sorry". Also, there's an apparent problem with the grassroots and Momentum, which led Chuka Umunna in 2016 to demand the Momentum group as shut down.

This problem in Labour is that this current problem has been going on for two years.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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The thing is Labour has a huge support base in Muslim communities, they can not be seen to be supportive in any way of Israel or Jews in general.
Very sad as Jews have had a huge influence on the Labour Party and their social policies when they were a genuine party of the people.

And no smoke without fire - maybe if Corbyn hadn't shared a stage with various terrorists on a number of occasions it wouldn't be so easy to level these accusations at him.
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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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re the 1st link to the bbc article about holocaust survivors


More than 300 Holocaust survivors and their descendants have issued a statement condemning what they call Israel's "genocide" in Gaza. The International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network placed the statement as an advertisement in the New York Times.


I made a thread about this linking to Israeli media and the thread was immediately binned maybe i should have tried linking to that article instead.

From what i have gathered this is the exact distinction corbyn is trying to make - how can it be wrong to point out the similarities of the 2 regimes?


P.S. I expect this reply will also be deleted - PROMOTE IGNORANCE !!!!



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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To be brutally honest Corbyn and his media team have dropped the ball on this with consistency and vigour. This could have been addressed earlier and handled a lot better. The problem is that Corbyn is an inveterate protestor and an indifferent legislator. Don't get me wrong, I despise Theresa May's government, which has set new records for weakness, incompetence and petty cruelties, but I do not think that a Labour government led by Corbyn would be much better. And I really hate to say that.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: johnb

No disrespect, but the niche International Jewish Anti-Zionist blah, blah, is just a (very) pro Palestinian group and based around anti-Israel as a country. The Labour Party is not officially anti-Israel, nor anti-Semitic. Bringing groups like the IJAN into this debate around the Labour Party is not really helpful, as no politician would associate themselves with them. The BBC article is 2014 and the IJAN website is dead.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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David Cameron and Gideon were vindictive and targeted the most vulnerable in our society to further a political ideology. May and her administration have taken incompetence to a whole new level and lack any sort of direction or vision. The country is currently rudderless.

It would be fair to assume that the country would be ripe for a change in direction and government.
But Labour have consistently failed to capitalise on the Tories failings and Corbyn's own personal failings and undefendable support of terrorists have made Labour unelectable in my eyes.

And that is to this nations detriment; Labour have some great domestic policies.
But they are dictated to far too much by the PC Brigade and pander to middle class social justice warriors at the expense of traditional Labour supporters.
Corbyn's Labour have invested heavily on gaining support from UK Muslims, so much so that it was hardly any surprise that he dragged his heels and buried his head in the sand over anti-Semitism.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 04:48 PM
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I would support labour if it wasn't for this idiot of a man, not going to go into the jewish thing but understand there are issues on both sides of the fence, not just the Palestinians! Plus someone working for peace would be a good thing instead of a very one sided approach and calling terrorists 'brothers'

At the end of the day, whoever you vote for you are going to get more of the same, While I can't actually stand any of them I'd vote May over Corbyn everyday of the week if nothing else but on the basis of keeping our nuclear weaponry plus spending more on our military not cutting it further. Let alone someone who struggles to answer basic questions publicly without it having to be a staged event.

History already tells us that socialism doesn't work and pretty much capitalism is the better of all the evils out there; even if it has issues of it's own.

The bigger problem is when you have people like me that would vote tory, even though we aren't tories you have 1 party in effective power, you always need a good opposition to balance it out and that is the current problem with labour; we all have pretty much lost any form of trust in it. Get rid of that idiot and most of us would probably come back but right now it's the blue tick box for me!
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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: ChristianParr

I would support labour if it wasn't for this idiot of a man, not going to go into the jewish thing but understand there are issues on both sides of the fence, not just the Palestinians! Plus someone working for peace would be a good thing instead of a very one sided approach and calling terrorists 'brothers'

At the end of the day, whoever you vote for you are going to get more of the same, While I can't actually stand any of them I'd vote May over Corbyn everyday of the week if nothing else but on the basis of keeping our nuclear weaponry plus spending more on our military not cutting it further. Let alone someone who struggles to answer basic questions publicly without it having to be a staged event.

History already tells us that socialism doesn't work and pretty much capitalism is the better of all the evils out there; even if it has issues of it's own.

The bigger problem is when you have people like me that would vote tory, even though we aren't tories you have 1 party in effective power, you always need a good opposition to balance it out and that is the current problem with labour; we all have pretty much lost any form of trust in it. Get rid of that idiot and most of us would probably come back but right now it's the blue tick box for me!


You'd actually vote for Theresa May?

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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 09:20 PM
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Do you think it could be less a sting by tbtb and more a case of the parliamentary Labour party sticking the knife into Corbyn's only soft spot?

They know they can't get the party as a whole to boot him out, they pretty much all want him replaced by a pro eu blairite which the majority of members oppose.



posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 04:55 PM
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It's not a case of 'wanting to' but with the lack of any other worthwhile leader it's the only option. If you looked further down what I said was government runs best when there is a good party in opposition. As there isn't we currently live in a 1 party country. If Labour put in a leader who could lead I'd return to labour it's as simple as that.



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