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Chicago police confronted for planting bait car full of Nikes in the Ghetto

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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
So everyone that has answered that they would never steal i wonder now if you are prepared to back up that claim if you were to go on skid row for a while?

After all we should be able to admit that necessity can play a huge role in decision making.

Some people even feel that garbage cans are private property.


Stealing for food or to stay alive is a lot different than picking off a car full of new shoes.




posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: howtonhawky
So everyone that has answered that they would never steal i wonder now if you are prepared to back up that claim if you were to go on skid row for a while?

After all we should be able to admit that necessity can play a huge role in decision making.

Some people even feel that garbage cans are private property.


Stealing for food or to stay alive is a lot different than picking off a car full of new shoes.


Maybe they were going to boil the shoe leather to have something to eat or their mothers all had terminal illnesses addressed by fashionable footwear, you heartless monsters!



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr

If you think the point is that someone is stealing, I think you might be missing it..The point, that is.
The point is not that superficial.

Why is it so easy to bait someone into stealing? Can you answer that question?
Especially with something mouth wateringly interesting, in an area where people look at that particular item as a status symbol?



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: spacedoubt

The point is they stole. My current and past neighborhood are often victimized by thieves from the hood who drive to the suburbs to steal from cars.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: howtonhawky
So everyone that has answered that they would never steal i wonder now if you are prepared to back up that claim if you were to go on skid row for a while?

After all we should be able to admit that necessity can play a huge role in decision making.

Some people even feel that garbage cans are private property.


Stealing for food or to stay alive is a lot different than picking off a car full of new shoes.


No that is only a partially true statement.

The item is indeed different but the act of taking something that does not belong to you is the exact same.

There is no difference except in the mind.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 04:57 PM
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I would like to know how the guy knew it was full of nikes. It’s not like the contents were posted on the outside of the truck.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: howtonhawky
So everyone that has answered that they would never steal i wonder now if you are prepared to back up that claim if you were to go on skid row for a while?

After all we should be able to admit that necessity can play a huge role in decision making.

Some people even feel that garbage cans are private property.


Stealing for food or to stay alive is a lot different than picking off a car full of new shoes.


No that is only a partially true statement.

The item is indeed different but the act of taking something that does not belong to you is the exact same.

There is no difference except in the mind.


Stealing a can of beans to feed your child and stealing a pair of shoes to look good in the hood are in no way the same thing



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Why do the thieves live in the hood?
Why do you call it the hood?



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: howtonhawky
So everyone that has answered that they would never steal i wonder now if you are prepared to back up that claim if you were to go on skid row for a while?

After all we should be able to admit that necessity can play a huge role in decision making.

Some people even feel that garbage cans are private property.


Stealing for food or to stay alive is a lot different than picking off a car full of new shoes.


No that is only a partially true statement.

The item is indeed different but the act of taking something that does not belong to you is the exact same.

There is no difference except in the mind.


Stealing a can of beans to feed your child and stealing a pair of shoes to look good in the hood are in no way the same thing



What if you traded the shoes for 50 cans of beans?
All good then yes?



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky

It's a mitigating factor for sentencing, the crime is the same.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: spacedoubt

Because they caught them and that's where they lived. I don't understand the question.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: spacedoubt

I don't believe he said it made it good, he said it's different. It's called a mitigating factor.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: spacedoubt

The point is they stole. My current and past neighborhood are often victimized by thieves from the hood who drive to the suburbs to steal from cars.
Who “drive” to your neighborhood. These were teens playing basketball they probably don’t drive cars



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: gamer2343

Oh, probably, based on what? Now I am convinced these kids are angels who would never do anything wrong.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I don’t know just that they’re teens maybe, Unless we are to assume that these teens stole from the truck will also steal cars and drive with no license
edit on 5-8-2018 by gamer2343 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: gamer2343
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I don’t know just that they’re teens maybe, Unless we are to assume that these teens stole from the truck will also steal cars and drive with no license

Why would they have no license? I had one at that age. Why would they need a license anyways since they are criminals we can expect they would drive without one.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Or do they wait for the bus, Only to go through all the cars in your neighborhood, They then stand there with all the stolen merchandise, wait for the bus again before heading back to the hood to take the merchandise to a fencer or either trade your eyeglasses and parking tickets for drugs



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: howtonhawky
So everyone that has answered that they would never steal i wonder now if you are prepared to back up that claim if you were to go on skid row for a while?

After all we should be able to admit that necessity can play a huge role in decision making.

Some people even feel that garbage cans are private property.


Stealing for food or to stay alive is a lot different than picking off a car full of new shoes.


No that is only a partially true statement.

The item is indeed different but the act of taking something that does not belong to you is the exact same.

There is no difference except in the mind.


Stealing a can of beans to feed your child and stealing a pair of shoes to look good in the hood are in no way the same thing

I would not stake anything of value on the statement you just made here.

I do share your sentiment and value discretion in the law but the thread that binds the two instances is indeed the act of taking something that does not belong to you.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: gamer2343
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I don’t know just that they’re teens maybe, Unless we are to assume that these teens stole from the truck will also steal cars and drive with no license

Why would they have no license? I had one at that age. Why would they need a license anyways since they are criminals we can expect they would drive without one.
At what age?

So what do you think they should do with these uncontrollable individuals, It’s already established that they’re going to be future career criminals



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: spacedoubt
a reply to: subfab

Would you be tempted to take the cash, if your mother was deathly sick and needed medicine that you could not otherwise afford? She needs it within the next 24 hours, or she might die.
Would you even weigh the option?


are saying all those kids who took the shoes did so to help their sick mother?




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