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Is the SAS gender diverse in 2018?

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posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 05:13 PM
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Just wondering is the SAS (Special Air Service) gender diverse in 2018?
en.wikipedia.org...

I've searched several times now on whether it is still male-only, or not (or if it ever was).

My reason for asking is I got this SAS Manual at a library sale, titled: Endurance Techniques (Chris McNab. Chancellor Press: 2001). I'm referring to page 160.
www.amazon.com...

It appears that whilst teaching how to overcome torture a soldier is left in freezing conditions, and then he is paraded before female personnel, who make fun of his body.
If it wasn't for this "gender-shaming", I think I would have regarded it more as a field-guide.
But now they had to bring it in ... and I think in the current context men have every right to question the gender hierarchy.

I just wonder, for the sake of gender equality, would that exercise be done in reverse to a female recruit?
Who are these "female personnel"?

I mean it's from 2001, maybe they dropped the whole exercise.

Or maybe there is no gender equality.
Just like I still see men running after garbage trucks, and emptying the bins.
That's so unfair!
I'm sure loads of feminists would love to do that job.
Similarly if men can be in an occupations where they are deliberately tortured and broken, only the evil patriarchy stands between equal mistreatment for women.

But that's a thought.

Factually I want to know, can women enter the SAS, because no link seems to clearly tell me.




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posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 05:51 PM
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Brother are you going to war?
There might be a trend here.
Going again, it's my 29th year on the border!

The war is over hey.
Cancel that, the war is on again.

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posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 05:54 PM
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Just wondering is the SAS (Special Air Service) gender diverse in 2018?

I bloody well hope not.
The SAS is a unit who's intake is through selection which is why they are an Elite fighting force , no diversity required just balls of steel and iron nerve.



posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 07:04 PM
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There are women quite capable of duty in special forces. Israeli regular soldiers which includes women since military duty is compulsory are down right scary. Quite attractive as well.

There are operations in special forces which a female recruit would be invaluable to say the least. I don't believe most foreign services have the same hang ups that most Americans have regarding females in military duty.

And most Europeans certainly do not share our hang ups on male or female nudity either. Just saying but I could be wrong and I am sure that maybe one of our British members can correct me.

One thing for sure, I don't believe any special forces are very PC as it doesn't play well in the field so it would be absent in training as well.



posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 08:22 PM
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No, women cannot join the SAS or the SBS as badged members. It has however been reported that women can join the special reconnaissance regiment.

apply.army.mod.uk...

No information on 22SAS but that is pretty much alway is he case but they only let men join the reserves so I doubt it would be different for the regulars

Hope that answers your question
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posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

But isn't that sexist?

Not that I mind, but just wondering, in that case.



posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
Just wondering is the SAS (Special Air Service) gender diverse in 2018?
en.wikipedia.org...

I've searched several times now on whether it is still male-only, or not (or if it ever was).

My reason for asking is I got this SAS Manual at a library sale, titled: Endurance Techniques (Chris McNab. Chancellor Press: 2001). I'm referring to page 160.
www.amazon.com...

It appears that whilst teaching how to overcome torture a soldier is left in freezing conditions, and then he is paraded before female personnel, who make fun of his body.
If it wasn't for this "gender-shaming", I think I would have regarded it more as a field-guide.
But now they had to bring it in ... and I think in the current context men have every right to question the gender hierarchy.

I just wonder, for the sake of gender equality, would that exercise be done in reverse to a female recruit?
Who are these "female personnel"?

I mean it's from 2001, maybe they dropped the whole exercise.

Or maybe there is no gender equality.
Just like I still see men running after garbage trucks, and emptying the bins.
That's so unfair!
I'm sure loads of feminists would love to do that job.
Similarly if men can be in an occupations where they are deliberately tortured and broken, only the evil patriarchy stands between equal mistreatment for women.

But that's a thought.

Factually I want to know, can women enter the SAS, because no link seems to clearly tell me.



Thank you SO much!!!
Next time, we should talk about which shade of lipstick that the SAS prefers!



posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

But isn't that sexist?

Not that I mind, but just wondering, in that case.



Could be but it’s just a long standing position. Women don’t join the SAS.

There are reasons for it but not really wanting to get into it at 4am



posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 09:56 PM
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I wonder how gender diverse the Foreign Legion is?



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 03:01 AM
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Given that the selection process for the SAS is notoriously difficult and physical, without compromise, it would be difficult for a woman to make the grade. If they managed it, then all play to them. I did read somewhere that a woman was able to become a member of the SAS reserves.

However, boiling it down to the bare essentials. The SAS is necessarily a close team. Would a woman destabilise that balance?



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 04:42 AM
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In the US, if you're born male
Well, I guess born with a beard:

You must register for the draft!

Yeah, select service.
Women, nah, they don't have to do nothing.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 05:45 AM
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a reply to: halfoldman

There was a program aired on U.K. TV a couple of years ago where civilians volunteered to go through various special forces selection/recruitment programs.
They had to endure the same gruelling endurance and psychological exercises regular soldiers were put through in the selection process.

The winner was dubbed “the machine” by the special forces instructors and she truly earned that title.

On the whole though women and men do differ in their natural abilities and aptitude’s and if anything that should be embraced


CX

posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 09:33 AM
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Could be female staff brought in to help with the interrogation phase?

Not sure though.

CX.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 10:13 AM
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It's only men in the SAS as others have said.
Regarding simulated torture though, freezing ice water etc would be a bad one, but women laughing at my body while stripped naked or whatever, meh, that would be a preferable break from freezing in icy water...I wouldn't give a toss about ridicule, better than water boarding.

...I too think women are under represented in the municipal trash collection industry. I think we should start an awareness campaign to enable women to achieve their dreams of being an operative who collects the bins keeping our communities clean.
There must be clear barriers to women due to the disproportionately small numbers of women who manage to get a break in the industry.
Unite brothers, fight the oppression and help our sisters become waste collection operatives!



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: CX
Could be female staff brought in to help with the interrogation phase?

Not sure though.

CX.


They use a few people, for resistance to interrogation, tends to be military intelligence specialists, psychologists, doctors and I have also been told that for a while they were using Ministry of Defense Police.

I don’t know how current that information is but they didn’t tend to use much in the way of SAS training staff. It’s actually considered the easiest part of selection because it used to be done at the very so the folk who had green that far were already the best candidates and it’s easier in comparison to some of the other phases.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 11:37 PM
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As I'm preparing for the eventuality of war in South Africa (never thought I'd have to wonder about any of this hardcore nonsense again), I understand where that manual is coming from.

I must train with my bros, but women must be almost just as trained.

I would strongly advise it.
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