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you need ID to buy groceries?

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posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: TinySickTears

You need a job to have cash, unless you are working illegally.
You need ID to get a legitimate job.
Of course if you are independently wealthy, then you don't need a job. But I have never heard of a wealthy person without a bank account, for which you need ID.



You're lying again.
You do not need a job to have cash

My daughter is 6 and she has cash.




posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

So the ID is to buy the alcohol. Not to buy groceries.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: Zeta Reticuli
a reply to: TinySickTears

Yes, he's right. As I always use my debit card and need to show ID.

Also, when im at Costco they require picture ID as well.

So he's right.

Sorry, try again.


You're lying too.
You are asked for id cause of how you are paying. Not for buying groceries.

Can people that use cash buy groceries?
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posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

Your 6 year old daughter can not vote either. So, that's fine.
And it's kind of silly reasoning.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: JBIZZ

If a card is reported stolen there's no way for a business to charge anything to it. It will be declined. A message may even come up on the veriphone to confiscate the card.
If a card is approved for a purchase even if it's been stolen the merchant is not legally in trouble for accepting it.
They may have the transaction reversed later and they will loose money but they would never ever be in any kind of jeopardy for accepting the card.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: TinySickTears

Your 6 year old daughter can not vote either. So, that's fine.
And it's kind of silly reasoning.



Just like it's silly to bring up credit cards and cold medicine.

The fact is you don't need a job to have cash.
Fact is you don't need id to buy groceries


Fact is you are all lying to justify dear leader.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

I registered to vote when I applied for my driver's license.
to get that driver's license, I had to provide quite a bit of proof as to who I was.
I then got a little card that I have to show at the voting site.
I've moved several times, and at every move, I have received a new card with my current address when I changed my address at the dmv.

by the way, my state also requires some for of id when you show up to vote.

I have no problem with the idea that people should have to present some form of id when they vote..
I just highly object the idea that you have to have some form of id to buy groceries..
I don't think we should be even entertaining that idea.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Okay then. You won't answer my question, and I guess you think I'm trolling you, but I'm not. (today). I genuinely wanted to know your beliefs.

Of course we all understand your point. And just so you'll know, my position is that only American citizens should be allowed to vote in our country. I've had to show a picture ID in my state since I started voting years ago, so it's a normal thing to me, and I don't mind whipping out my driver's license. I don't have a problem with that. Should I be able to zip over to Canada and vote in their elections? I don't think so. Should the Russians be able to visit here, and zip to a voting booth and vote? Of course not.

I see your point as well as Trump's. But this is simply another cog in the wheel of his silly and petty lies.

You do not need an ID to buy groceries. Period. Unless you are paying by check or buying alcohol.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah




I think this thread is some absurd attempt to make him out to be a liar, because people are not getting the point he was making.


The media does this all the time. The media's base simply repeats it. It's a classic red-herring:




A red herring, besides being a type of pickled fish, is a fallacious argument style in which an irrelevant or false topic is presented in an attempt to divert attention from the original issue, with the intention of "winning" an argument by leading attention away from the original argument and on to another, often unrelated topic.


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posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

feel free to attack now


You need ID to cash a check in a grocery store. Now, what's your problem again?



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Zeta Reticuli
a reply to: TinySickTears

Yes, he's right. As I always use my debit card and need to show ID.

Also, when im at Costco they require picture ID as well.

So he's right.

Sorry, try again.


You're lying too.
You are asked for id cause of how you are paying. Not for buying groceries.

Can people that use cash buy groceries?


I'm wondering if we are discussing this issue with a bunch of people that are behind the times in terms of POS technology and such.

Most retailers are going to systems in which the customer completes the transaction on their end through the credit/debit systems on the counters. No card, credit or otherwise, has to be given to the clerk for processing and there is an important reason for that. The customer takes care of it all and no ID is required whatsoever.

In fact, the customer themselves get to choose whether they process the transaction through credit or debit and the clerk has nothing to do with it, except to hand them a receipt when it goes through.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: angeldoll

I agree with you
I just wanted to point to a lie and see if the minions would act as expected.
They did and still are



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
Why are people still bringing up cold medicine and paying with a card?

Oh that's right. To justify the lie.


It's a distraction for... well what you said. This is another ridiculous deflection fest.

I went out for a smoke and damn 2 pages later. This must have gotten in a lot of people's craws.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: TinySickTears

feel free to attack now


You need ID to cash a check in a grocery store. Now, what's your problem again?


What does that have to do with anything?
I'm talking about buying groceries, not cashing checks



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: introvert

They either understand just fine and are lying to justify dear leader which sucks or they honestly don't understand which sucks.

I talked about buying groceries and it has been deflected to
Paying with a check
Paying with a card
Costco
Cold meds
Beer
Cigarettes
Cashing a check

Hahaha



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: TinySickTears

feel free to attack now


You need ID to cash a check in a grocery store. Now, what's your problem again?


What’s a check?




posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

but, if they didn't have that id to begin with, they probably wouldn't have the debit card, so, I guess they would be out of luck and left to starve, unable to buy their groceries??
or is there another option they can use...
like, oh I don't know...
using cash??

thus, no, an id is not needed to buy groceries...
it's convenient to have that debit card, and you can't get one without an id, and you might, although I never have been, asked to show your id to use that debit card...
but you can still buy groceries, regardless!!!



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:26 AM
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I've been asked for photo id 2 different times at Sam's Club before.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: introvert

They either understand just fine and are lying to justify dear leader which sucks or they honestly don't understand which sucks.

I talked about buying groceries and it has been deflected to
Paying with a check
Paying with a card
Costco
Cold meds
Beer
Cigarettes
Cashing a check

Hahaha


All of the above require using ID when making a purchase in a grocery store. But no, we don't use IDs to buy groceries, and no one has every used their ID when buying groceries.



posted on Aug, 1 2018 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: introvert

They either understand just fine and are lying to justify dear leader which sucks or they honestly don't understand which sucks.

I talked about buying groceries and it has been deflected to
Paying with a check
Paying with a card
Costco
Cold meds
Beer
Cigarettes
Cashing a check

Hahaha


I agree, but Trump did mention using a card, so I find it reasonable to address that specific issue as well.

In general, you are right. You do not need an ID to buy groceries. To even suggest such a thing is absurd.

But if we address the card issue, an ID is not necessarily required either. As I said, stores are moving away from handling customers cards, credit or debit, for specific reasons and the customer gets to take care of the transaction through keypads on the counter.

The store clerk may not even know how they are choosing to process that transaction, credit or debit, let alone asking for an ID to ensure the card they are using is theirs. Stores don't care and they have no responsibility to check if they do not handle the cards themselves.

Overall, the entire premise of what Trump said is simply stupid. Not sure why people would defend such idiotic things. Chalk it up to another Trump saying something stupid and move on.




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