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Remember the Swedish lady that held up the plane....

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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: Rewey

originally posted by: howtonhawky
What does assault entail?

Did he back talk an agent?

Petty reporting...


Well, if he received a prison sentence for it, I'm assuming it was more than back talking...

It's interesting that no one cares that she referred to Afghanistan as 'hell' but everyone fell over themselves when Trump called some countries 'sh! tholes', or whatever term he used...


I did not even catch that part either..

No it would not be wise to assume anything more than what is reported and i am not claiming it was simple talking back but someone could and has go to prison for that and if you add border hopping then ya never know.

I can point you to kids being held at the border right now that have done much less.

90% unaccompanied minors
80% of adult women raped while crossing(probably affects minors)
5000 dollars coyote fee to transport
Likely a good chunk is affected by human trafficking.

And again a high iq high skill doctor or engineer wants to migrate to sweden, he has to go through a waiting list and the legal migration process. A low skill criminal wants in? No problem! Remains for years unemployed? No problem, here's your large welfare check at the cost of the tax paying population.

This is madness. Migration should be meritocratic either skill or innate capability. We have finite resources, we can't let anyone in in large waves of non-assimilating hostile cultures.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

The madness is in your mind.
It is created by your skewed facts you put forth and your insinuations.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

90% unaccompanied minors? That is bullocks unless you are like xcathrdra and believe it is honest to count a family separated by the feds as being unaccompanied. It seems pretty cruel to me.

80% of adult women raped while crossing(probably affects minors) More bullocks as the nimber is not nearly that high and what you refer to is people being robbed and raped by gangs below the border on the trip up here on the trains and not the actual people seeking asylum are committing these crimes in the manner you refer. To me it just shows the necessity of asylum for those folks.

5000 dollars coyote fee to transport. That amount is very low in most cases and will get you dropped off in a bad situation such as the ass end of an 18 wheeler baking in a parking lot somewhere.

There is much more to the story than what the two sides feed us in most cases.



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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: Xenogears

90% unaccompanied minors? That is bullocks unless you are like xcathrdra and believe it is honest to count a family separated by the feds as being unaccompanied. It seems pretty cruel to me.

80% of adult women raped while crossing(probably affects minors) More bullocks as the nimber is not nearly that high and what you refer to is people being robbed and raped by gangs below the border on the trip up here on the trains and not the actual people seeking asylum are committing these crimes in the manner you refer. To me it just shows the necessity of asylum for those folks.

5000 dollars coyote fee to transport. That amount is very low in most cases and will get you dropped off in a bad situation such as the ass end of an 18 wheeler baking in a parking lot somewhere.

There is much more to the story than what the two sides feed us in most cases.




Clearly stated by the white house representative upon media inquiry in official press meeting, iirc. 90% were unaccompanied, the other 10% who knows how many were accompanied by strangers, some of which probably raped or groomed the minors they're accompanying.

It is not counting separation by the feds, otherwise it'd be 100% of minors unaccompanied. Those at the centers 90% came alone, iirc.



posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

LOL

You are not making sense.

Of the nearly 3000 children detained somewhere around 700 were not with immediate family and are taking longer to reunite with family.

That goes against laws that state it is perfectly legal for someone to seek asylum with a minor that is not related as long as there is no immediate danger.

The number of those nearly 3000 being molested while in custody of the feds is rising...
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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: Xenogears

LOL

You are not making sense.

Of the nearly 3000 children detained somewhere around 700 were not with immediate family and are taking longer to reunite with family.

That goes against laws that state it is perfectly legal for someone to seek asylum with a minor that is not related as long as there is no immediate danger.

The number of those nearly 3000 being molested while in custody of the feds is rising...



www.snopes.com...

10,000 out of 12,000 in detention centers are unaccompanied.

It is 80% the correct figure.

And asylum should be taken at a port of entry, not by breaking the law and illegally crossing the border, and it is not GUARANTEED. Your open border fanatic speech is that all illegal immigrants can simply rename themselves asylum seekers and get open borders bonanza. It ain't happening.

And if it did it would destroy the nation as it is destroying europe.
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posted on Aug, 5 2018 @ 03:23 PM
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You are conflating obamas children with trumps kids. Nice job of obfuscation.

They are separating folks at the ports also according to reports from parents.

In the first place we were talking about victims of the zero tolerance policy and then you bring in the migrants from 2014 into the convo.



posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: Xenogears

You are conflating obamas children with trumps kids. Nice job of obfuscation.

They are separating folks at the ports also according to reports from parents.

In the first place we were talking about victims of the zero tolerance policy and then you bring in the migrants from 2014 into the convo.





The more recent figure was that 9,000 out of the 10,000 ~ were unaccompanied minors too.

There is no reason to suspect the percentage of unaccompanied has varied drastically over time.

Probably feeding the human traffickers networks.
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