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20 states take aim at 3D gun company, sue to get files off the Internet

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posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: DexterRiley

Best way to deal with glaring nonsense is to make a good joke while explaining why they are wrong. Does it help? No, but at least someone can get a chuckle or two. And who knows, if they think you are not all bad because you can get a laugh, what I am saying might not be all bad as well.

But when it comes down to the gun grabber mentality...I’m gonna need some beachfront property.




posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 03:35 PM
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So the leftists want to censor and ban the "Anarchists Cookbook".


hmmf.





posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Too late.

I bought mine when I was twelve. Still have it...somewhere.



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: DBCowboy

Too late.

I bought mine when I was twelve. Still have it...somewhere.


This 3-D blue-print is just an addendum to it.


Figuratively speaking, that is.



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Kinda is.

This isn't so much a second amendment question, as it is a first amendment question.

Seems to me, the supreme court answered this question some years ago...



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: DBCowboy

Kinda is.

This isn't so much a second amendment question, as it is a first amendment question.

Seems to me, the supreme court answered this question some years ago...


Why let a silly little thing like the Constitution get in the way of a good censorship!



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: DBCowboy

Kinda is.

This isn't so much a second amendment question, as it is a first amendment question.

Seems to me, the supreme court answered this question some years ago...


Why let a silly little thing like the Constitution get in the way of a good censorship!


It's funny the way so many of these folks have become The Man that they were all about sticking it to a few decades ago.



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: face23785

You have way too much desire to try to appear to win a debate than you have a desire to seek truth.

i will say that i do believe that gloc's are not metal guns.

That alone makes your response just a petty attempt to look as though you are right when you have no clue what the crap you are debating on.

Your desire to label me as a gun dummy and an anti gunner is pathetic at best when i give you facts and you give me #.

Plastic guns have been widely used in robberies and such. Toy guns



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 04:45 PM
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1828
Bear
BEAR, verb transitive preterit tense bore; participle passive born, borne. [Latin fero, pario, porto. The primary sense is to throw out, to bring forth, or in general, to thrust or drive along. ]

1. To support; to sustain; as, to bear a weight or burden.

2. To carry; to convey; to support and remove from place to place; as, 'they bear him upon the shoulder; ', 'the eagle beareth them on her wings.'

3. To wear; to bear as a mark of authority or distinction; as, to bear a sword, a badge, a name; to bear arms in a coat.

4. To keep afloat; as, the water bears a ship.

5. To support or sustain without sinking or yielding; to endure; as, a man can bear severe pain or calamity; or to sustain with proportionate strength, and without injury; as, a man may bear stronger food or drink.

6. To entertain; to carry in the mind; as, to bear a great love for a friend; to bear inveterate hatred to gaming.

7. To suffer; to undergo; as, to bear punishment.

8. To suffer without resentment, or interference to prevent; to have patience; as, to bear neglect or indignities.

9. To admit or be capable of; that is, to suffer or sustain without violence, injury, or change; as, to give words the most favorable interpretation they will bear

10. To bring forth or produce, as the fruit of plants, or the young of animals; as, to bear apples; to bear children.

11. To give birth to, or be the native place of.

Here dwelt the man divine whom Samos bore.

12. To possess and use as power; to exercise; as, to bear sway.

13. To gain or win.

Some think to bear it by speaking a great word. [Not now used. The phrase now used is, to bear away.]

14. To carry on, or maintain; to have; as, to bear a part in conversation.

15. To show or exhibit; to relate; as, to bear testimony or witness. This seems to imply utterance, like the Latin fero, to relate or utter.

16. To sustain the effect, or be answerable for; as, to bear the blame.

17. To sustain, as expense; to supply the means of paying; as, to bear the charges, that is, to pay the expenses.

18. To be the object of.

Let me but bear your love, and I'll bear your cares.

19. To behave; to act in any character; as, 'hath he borne himself penitent?'

20. To remove, or to endure the effects of; and hence to give satisfaction for.

Pretty sure this goes against the 2nd directly as to infringe it...

Infringe
INFRINGE, verb transitive infrinj'. [Latin infringo; in and frango, to break. See Break.]

1. To break, as contracts; to violate, either positively by contravention, or negatively by non-fulfillment or neglect of performance. A prince or a private person infringes an agreement or covenant by neglecting to perform its conditions, as well as by doing what is stipulated not to be done.

2. To break; to violate; to transgress; to neglect to fulfill or obey; as, to infringe a law.

3. To destroy or hinder; as, to infringe efficacy. [Little used.]

Added to the 1st amendment violations of freedom of the press this could be very historic for the tyrannist or the freedomist..



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785

You have way too much desire to try to appear to win a debate than you have a desire to seek truth.

i will say that i do believe that gloc's are not metal guns.

That alone makes your response just a petty attempt to look as though you are right when you have no clue what the crap you are debating on.

Your desire to label me as a gun dummy and an anti gunner is pathetic at best when i give you facts and you give me #.

Plastic guns have been widely used in robberies and such. Toy guns



"I'm not an anti-gunner. Also, erm, glocs aren't metal".

Seriously?

What anti-gunner site did you read that garbage on? This is what you call facts? And you wonder why I'm giving you #. Glocks have a metal chamber and barrel just like every other gun, along with a metal slide and several other metal parts. lol and you have the nerve to say I have no clue.

Again, people wading into the gun debate when they don't know anything about guns is just silly. And you guys wonder why gun rights advocates don't take you seriously and why the gun debate goes nowhere. One side is perpetually uninformed.



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: face23785

we already established that completely plastic guns do not exist but there are plans that can produce them so why in the world would you turn around and claim i am saying glocs are completely plastic. your done!


you have said nothing but more attempts to be right and no attempt for the facts or truth.

what are you even on about?

you give pathetic attempts at debate and you no longer care about the op but rather your attempt to be right when you are wrong.

we already agreed that guns today have certain parts that have to be metal in order tobe used over and over.

glocs are not metal
glocs are not metal
glocs are not metal
The Glock's frame, magazine body, and several other components are made from a high-strength nylon-based polymer invented by Gaston Glock, called Polymer 2. This plastic was specially formulated to provide increased durability and is more resilient than carbon steel and most steel alloys.
Glock - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org...

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posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: face23785

you can try all you want to make me into something i am not

however i am not a dem or a gun rights advocate but you keep trying to claim i am one.

it is at this point looking to be a mental issue you have.

i own guns and use them

these new plastic guns can be made out of 100% plastic unlike the composite gloc.

there are plans online to 3d print ammo and magizines and such for most guns and even the entire rifle itself in the case of the popular ones.

it is a first amendment issue and a second amendment issue

i will not lose my rights because you desire me to be against guns

please think about your responses to me before you go off on a nonsensical rant

this is the first time in history where the first and second have been rejected together.

it is no time for face's silliness

edit on 31-7-2018 by howtonhawky because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: face23785

do the site a favor and do not bring your crap in my direction ever again.

you are non nonsensical and can not follow logic and you are here to undermine us as a whole.

all your post are way off base and you over and over have proven to spout nonsense that does not relate to what you are replying too.



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785

we already established that completely plastic guns do not exist but there are plans that can produce them so why in the world would you turn around and claim i am saying glocs are completely plastic. your done!


you have said nothing but more attempts to be right and no attempt for the facts or truth.

what are you even on about?

you give pathetic attempts at debate and you no longer care about the op but rather your attempt to be right when you are wrong.

we already agreed that guns today have certain parts that have to be metal in order tobe used over and over.

glocs are not metal
glocs are not metal
glocs are not metal
The Glock's frame, magazine body, and several other components are made from a high-strength nylon-based polymer invented by Gaston Glock, called Polymer 2. This plastic was specially formulated to provide increased durability and is more resilient than carbon steel and most steel alloys.
Glock - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org...


That's great except you're misreading that. They're not saying it's stronger than steel. More resilient in this case means it's more resistant to abrasion and wear and it won't rust. It's not strong enough to withstand the pressures generated in the actual firing of the gun, which is why the chamber and barrel are still made out of steel. If you had a clue, you would know this.

I've said nothing except debunked your gun control talking points. "glocs aren't metal" is pointless drivel. Very few guns are entirely metal. The point is they have metal in them. They're not all polymer.
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posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785

do the site a favor and do not bring your crap in my direction ever again.

you are non nonsensical and can not follow logic and you are here to undermine us as a whole.

all your post are way off base and you over and over have proven to spout nonsense that does not relate to what you are replying too.


I'll come at you with whatever I want. Tell a mod. If you don't come into a gun thread posting gun control propaganda, you won't get corrected and your little ego won't get bruised.
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posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: DBCowboy

Too late.

I bought mine when I was twelve. Still have it...somewhere.

Yep. I got mine when I was in High School many many years ago. Then some anarchist stole it.

A few years later I bought another one. Then some anarchist stole it too.


You just can't win with anarchists...

-dex



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785

you can try all you want to make me into something i am not

however i am not a dem or a gun rights advocate but you keep trying to claim i am one.

it is at this point looking to be a mental issue you have.

i own guns and use them

these new plastic guns can be made out of 100% plastic unlike the composite gloc.

there are plans online to 3d print ammo and magizines and such for most guns and even the entire rifle itself in the case of the popular ones.

it is a first amendment issue and a second amendment issue

i will not lose my rights because you desire me to be against guns

please think about your responses to me before you go off on a nonsensical rant

this is the first time in history where the first and second have been rejected together.

it is no time for face's silliness


Let's take this one step at a time, so you can follow, because you're obviously too slow to follow multiple points in one post.

What were you trying to prove by saying "glocs are not metal" if you knew they had metal parts in them?



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 06:34 PM
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No need face.

I am done with you.

Op please accept my apologies for the mess.



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: WarPig1939
I'm ok with letting people have 3d printed firearms. It was going to happen inevitably. Even the US military is funding a project to 3d print their own surplus of weaponry. Instead of trying to ban the idea, let everyone do it and just give law enforcement more lethal capabilities to stay ahead of the curb. Just thinking off the top of my head, this will not be an easy win for the states and neither for the company selling the schematics. A very grey area because of the technology involved is so new and innovative, what will it come down to?

I'm fine with the idea of people being able to 3d print their own stuff. No more lethal that what professional gun makers have on the market now.


It made exporting items to Afghanistan far easier. If they wanted a spare part for a high-power automatic canon, they need ed to go through all the ITAR and export paperwork. If they exported a chunk of Titanium, no such problem.
So it was easier to export blocks of metal than final product metalwork.



posted on Jul, 31 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
No need face.

I am done with you.

Op please accept my apologies for the mess.


Aww, what's wrong? Can't defend the false notion you were trying to push that a Glock is a plastic gun?

Next time come with the slightest bit of knowledge on the topic.




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