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posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 04:57 PM
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Clifford Carnicon's Online video available
Of course we must all make up our own minds

this-must-stop.com...

DorkBoy's more specialised view - Clouds of Death
cloud-busters.com...


[edit on 21-2-2005 by dh]




posted on Feb, 23 2005 @ 12:46 PM
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have seen both of those. i am looking for a video file of the 2nd edition of carnicom's video.



posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 04:21 PM
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I was born on an airforce base, moved to another country onto another airforce base, moved to the states near another airforce base, and now live in the center of one of the busiest airplane traffic 'highways' of the U.S.
It has changed. Still have mixed thoughts.



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 02:22 PM
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Yeah - high bypass turbofans are most excellent producers of contrails - much better than their low bypass forefathers - oh and the number of flights these days is simply staggering....



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 05:14 PM
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meh. It's not a factor of what the engine is.



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Aether
meh. It's not a factor of what the engine is.


By that you are sort of admitting we are talking about contrails.

Anyway, of course the type of engine affects what kind of contrail a plane produces. For a start the bigger the engine the bigger the contrail.



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
Anyway, of course the type of engine affects what kind of contrail a plane produces. For a start the bigger the engine the bigger the contrail.

post removed because: why do i bother discussing chemtrails with these people?

[edit on 26-2-2005 by joepits]



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by joepits
post removed because: why do i bother discussing chemtrails with these people?

[edit on 26-2-2005 by joepits]


You aren't. You are "discussing" contrails, but for some reason you keep on calling them chemtrails.



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 12:23 PM
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good video I never never what really chemtrails were

but WTF IS THE PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 02:11 PM
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wow after seeing that first video made my stomach sick cant shake it
makes you sick when you see what stupid people do in powerful positions....


dh

posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by Lamagraa
wow after seeing that first video made my stomach sick cant shake it
makes you sick when you see what stupid people do in powerful positions....


As well it should
There is a fightback mechanism both technical and social
Technical the chem/cloudbuster and towerbuster
Social, probably the best starting point is revealing the 9/11 conspiracy on the street
Everything follows on from there



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 08:31 PM
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If you want to see somthing that will really creep you out.

read up of Cliff Carnicom's home dentisrty


A personal dental medical situation has been under observation and examination for approximately five months. The photographs and descriptions of these findings are being made available due to the numerous sources that disclose the repeated findings of unusual microscopic fibrous material within our environment, including a direct association with the aerosol operations. In addition, a segment of the medical community has expressed an interest in identifying the origin of unusual ailments apparently associated with the presence of microscopic filaments within the skin. It is unknown whether any associations exist between the current finding and the above circumstances, but the pertinent information shall be made available for considerations.

Approximately five months ago I experienced a severe tooth ache in the second bicuspid in the lower left jaw, being the the first problem of that type in my life. I aggresively pursued the origin of the pain and found it to be most likely associated with the gum. A regimen involving the use of a water pic and a dental needle was strictly followed, and some progress on that tooth and gum soon followed. After several weeks of careful attention, the majority of pain in that particular location had alleviated. This particular tooth is unusual in that it has been described to me in early adult years as never having reached maturity, and consequently is more eroded than is usual. Ultimately, it appears that this particular tooth may have been more vulnerable to an infection or ailment, and thus may explain why the pain first appeared at this location.

In an effort to try to identify the true orgin of the pain, gradual probing with the water pic and dental needle was continued beyond the immediate area for several weeks. This eventually led to the realization that the gum adjacent to several teeth of the lower left jaw had also been affected to a milder degree, with particular attention eventually between the central and left incisor of the lower jaw. The dental needle revealed a pointed source of pain deep within the gum between those two teeth. This pain was not evident unless sufficient probing to identify the source of any pain was completed. These circumstances were established approximately two months ago, and they have remained generally in a steady state until now.





posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by UofCinLA
Yeah - high bypass turbofans are most excellent producers of contrails - much better than their low bypass forefathers - oh and the number of flights these days is simply staggering....



as illustrated here:




www.people.hofstra.edu...



[edit on 26-2-2005 by HowardRoark]



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 09:20 PM
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Thank you for posting this dh, very cool find indeed!!


You have voted dh for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have used all of your votes for this month.


From the Video


There will be counter claims to the evidence presented within this film and you will be told all is normal and as it should be. You will be told that there is nothing to be concerned about and all is as it has always been.


Now doesn't that sound familiar?

And it says at the beggining of this movie that it is a NON-PROFIT video, so don't try to tell me it's someone trying to sell me something.

You can post as many charts as you like, it doesn't explain anything. Sorry but your debunking programme is wearing extremely thin.

Also isn't it strange that our two main debunkers on this site, you know who they are, are using the same debunking claims that the video talks about.
Hummmmmmmmmmm!!!!

Everybody needs to watch this.


[edit on 26/2/2005 by ANOK]



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 12:26 PM
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ANOK says:

"From the Video quote: There will be counter claims to the evidence presented within this film and you will be told all is normal and as it should be. You will be told that there is nothing to be concerned about and all is as it has always been. Now doesn't that sound familiar?"

It ought to! Clowney may be a nut-bar but no one ever said he was a fool. People like me have been a thorn in Clowney's side for five years now. He booted me off his board in 2002 because I was asking question he couldn't answer. Clowney knows that the debunkers are going to hit him, because all his stuff is bunk in the first place.

"And it says at the beggining of this movie that it is a NON-PROFIT video, so don't try to tell me it's someone trying to sell me something."

Non-profits legally can take in enough money to cover their expenses, including salaries, consulting feets, etc., and not have to pay taxes on that money. That's all a "non-profit" is. Why else do you think that the directors of "non-profits" like the Red Cross and the Boys and Girls Clubs can make over a hundred thousand bucks a year? LOL!!

"You can post as many charts as you like, it doesn't explain anything."

Actually, it does explain something, but you have to have the ability to read the charts, which means you needed to know how to work a program like Microsoft Excel, or have taken a stats course or maybe trigonometry in high school or actually read the front page of USA Today. If you haven't gotten that far in your education, I can see how a line chart is a bit complicated.

"Sorry but your debunking programme is wearing extremely thin."

Clowneycon's site, like most of the other chem-a-zoid sites, has shrunk to about fifteen percent of what it was in its heyday, and at least half of all the old chem-a-zoid sites I have in my "favorites" list from 2003 are no longer in existence.

The chem-a-zoids are going down.

"Also isn't it strange that our two main debunkers on this site, you know who they are, are using the same debunking claims that the video talks about."

Why not? It's people like me and Howard Roark and Pat Minnis and Chickie Deb and Maverick who are always going after the scam artists like Clowney, and we all use the same debunking claims anyway:

"Show us the evidence!"

"Where are the links to that research?"

"Why aren't you telling us who the researchers are?"

"Why do you hide the names of all your "reporters" -- is it because they don't exist?"

"Do you have any figures to back that up?"

"Where is the reports on the "chem-trails" you collected in situ?"

"You mean you never collected any?"


And that's why Clowney is warning you. He doesn't want you the think that maybe there is a little validity to someone asking for evidence...

...Because he doesn't have any evidence, and he never will.

But he'll always have an extra DVD to sell you or another nutburg radio show to appear on!!

[edit on 27-2-2005 by Off_The_Street]



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 01:52 PM
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Off the Street your personal attacks on my intelligence are getting very old...
You can choose to stick your head in the sand and be closed minded I don't care. Why do you even bother coming to a conspiracy site? All you do is debunk everything on here with the same old boring crap.
I'm not gonna bother arguing with you anymore.
I guess someone is going to spend a lot of money to make a documentary and offer it for free just to hoax people?

Why don't you find a site of debunker's where lame cranks like me are not gonna be open minded and question things?

Everybody I beg you to ignore these debunker's and look for yourself.
There is NO agenda here to hoax anybody, that's just plane stupid.

[edit on 27/2/2005 by ANOK]



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 07:58 PM
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See my critique of clowney's video at

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Not you, ANOK; you are not allowed to look.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by ANOK
Everybody I beg you to ignore these debunker's and look for yourself.
There is NO agenda here to hoax anybody, that's just plane stupid.

[edit on 27/2/2005 by ANOK]


Good idea. I used to think this guy was working for the government to spread disinformation but now I think he's just blind/deaf/dumb.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 10:21 PM
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So, Joe, Rather than trying to prove your point or to prove where OTS is wrong, you just attack him.

Face it. Cliff's video proves nothing. The "data' presented on his web site is crap.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark
So, Joe, Rather than trying to prove your point or to prove where OTS is wrong, you just attack him.

Face it. Cliff's video proves nothing. The "data' presented on his web site is crap.


That's funny coming from you, all you and your buddy has done IS attack us. I've been called stupid, naive, foolish, gullible.
Cliff's video shows more evidence FOR chemtrails than you have shown against them.
But of course we're all just part of a great big plan to scam you all aren't we? I get a big fat check for everyone I get to watch his FREE documentary

Hehe now you owe me a moniter clean up!



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