Trump Jr could be charged with perjury over Trump tower meetintg

a reply to: Sublimecraft

This is just more evidence that makes it appear that Cohen has been paid off or threatened by people who want to stop Trump.

Am i missing something here?

Is propaganda(lying to the public by the gov.) legal or not?

If it is legal then we are talking about nothing with all these cases of lying.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Am i missing something here?

Is propaganda(lying to the public by the gov.) legal or not?

If it is legal then we are talking about nothing with all these cases of lying.

I think this case revolves around Jr. lying to Congress. Not propaganda...

If they have the phone records....Cohen is irrelevant.

fortune.com...

a reply to: CB328

I don't remember him saying this under oath even if it is the case Jr maybe but not Trump as Jr may have to FBI or investigator. If this be the case Obama and Hill could get life on all the lies blatant and repeated. I just cant see this being worse than buying and paying for fake dirt! Also I am wondering if the dossier was thought up before this timetable. And how could this even come close to the Fisa abuse? If they ever try to pen something on Trump as petty as something like Trump, it would have to open the door to prosecute many from the left. You would think looking at all the evidence.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Am i missing something here?

Is propaganda(lying to the public by the gov.) legal or not?

If it is legal then we are talking about nothing with all these cases of lying.

I think this case revolves around Jr. lying to Congress. Not propaganda...

If they have the phone records....Cohen is irrelevant.

fortune.com...

i get that but if he was told to lie by a gov. official and propaganda is legal then we are chasing our tail.

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Am i missing something here?

Is propaganda(lying to the public by the gov.) legal or not?

If it is legal then we are talking about nothing with all these cases of lying.

I think this case revolves around Jr. lying to Congress. Not propaganda...

If they have the phone records....Cohen is irrelevant.

fortune.com...

i get that but if he was told to lie by a gov. official and propaganda is legal then we are chasing our tail.

Nixon tried that....how'ed that work out?

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Am i missing something here?

Is propaganda(lying to the public by the gov.) legal or not?

If it is legal then we are talking about nothing with all these cases of lying.

I think this case revolves around Jr. lying to Congress. Not propaganda...

If they have the phone records....Cohen is irrelevant.

fortune.com...

i get that but if he was told to lie by a gov. official and propaganda is legal then we are chasing our tail.

Nixon tried that....how'ed that work out?

Didn't work out as well as Bill Clinton. Though that's apples and oranges in relation to severity of what they did in the first place... Both still lied though.

a reply to: BlueAjah

Or he just turned his coat as soon as there was nothing more to gain from praising Trump. They're all a bunch of sycophants anyway, how many times has Trump himself gone 180 from praise to mudslinging?

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Am i missing something here?

Is propaganda(lying to the public by the gov.) legal or not?

If it is legal then we are talking about nothing with all these cases of lying.

I think this case revolves around Jr. lying to Congress. Not propaganda...

If they have the phone records....Cohen is irrelevant.

fortune.com...

i get that but if he was told to lie by a gov. official and propaganda is legal then we are chasing our tail.

Nixon tried that....how'ed that work out?

Propaganda was not legal at that time.

Seriously it seems futile to me to be asking for truth from a gov. that can legally lie.

Something we need to deal with in order to make any meaningful changes.

For all we know those closed door sessions could be where they decide what we talk about.

Here is the thing:

We do not know. A claim has been made, but how can we tell what is and is not the truth? Seems like one day the claims are one thing, the next day the claims are the opposite and the truth is not where it appears to be, so that is going to be hard on such.

But the claim is made, so now the question has to be is there evidence to back it up. That can be shown and proven in a court of law, that is verified and unaltered.

It does not matter if a person likes or dislikes the other person, but the law is the law, and right now, unless there is verifiable proof, that can be checked, and shown, it is merely just a claim, and Don Jr. Is still innocent of doing any wrong doing.

However, if a recording were to surface, showing such to be true, then that would be a whole different story.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: M5xaz

No Comey never said that either. You guys supply your own narrative for what you think Comey said.

Ignorance (or deception?) on your part.

Yes, he did. FBI Director James Comey identified 110 emails as containing information that was classified at the time it was sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret". An additional three email chains contained "portion markings", simply a "(C)" indicating "Confidential" in front of one or more paragraphs.

Quod erat demonstrandum.


What is worse is that Hillary specifically told her underlings to remove classification headings when inconvenient for her, such as in the following exchange:


Clear, criminal activity by Hillary

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: M5xaz

No Comey never said that either. You guys supply your own narrative for what you think Comey said.

Ignorance (or deception?) on your part.

Yes, he did. FBI Director James Comey identified 110 emails as containing information that was classified at the time it was sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret". An additional three email chains contained "portion markings", simply a "(C)" indicating "Confidential" in front of one or more paragraphs.

Quod erat demonstrandum.


What is worse is that Hillary specifically told her underlings to remove classification headings when inconvenient for her, such as in the following exchange:

Clear, criminal activity by Hillary

Ignorance. She's consistently the least informed poster on any political topic you can name. It's baffling. I couldn't be that uninformed if I tried.

a reply to: face23785

Ignorance. She's consistently the least informed poster on any political topic you can name. It's baffling. I couldn't be that uninformed if I tried.

Ignorance and only recognizing favorable partisan points are two very different things.

a reply to: M5xaz

Clear, criminal activity by Hillary

Then why no indictments from the trump WH. Remember his campaign promise to "lock her up"?

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: M5xaz

Clear, criminal activity by Hillary

Then why no indictments from the trump WH. Remember his campaign promise to "lock her up"?

She should be - unusual protection from insiders still in DoJ and FBI

General Petreaus got charged and convicted for LESS

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Sublimecraft

Why is there a photo of Don Jr if that's Michael Cohen's tweet?

Because the logic side of your brain is overwhelming the confirmation-bias side of your brain resulting in a feedback loop where you cannot conceptualise anything beyond the entrenched hatred for all things Trump that CNN has implanted into your subconscious.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Obama- Told the Russian President that all 100,000 or so employees of the f.b.I , d.o.j and c.i.a are stupid and the American people should believe Putin. What a wonderful person Obama is.

Obama said if you are famous, women will let you grab them by the pus#sy. He is such a great man.

Obama called the country that Jesus was born in a #hole country. Sure hope he gets reelected.

Obama committed adultery with at least 2 women after his wife had just given birth to their son. I think this man was sent by God to save America.

He is definitely the right person to defend the future of our nation.

a reply to: hoss53

Nah.

Obama said to Putin "he would have more flexibility after the election" with respect to negotiating a better deal for the Russians, on Russian nuclear warheads pointed at America.

Besides, Obama's into guys, like Larry Sinclair stated.

a reply to: BlueAjah

The President Deny's it......................)