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Would liberalism make the human race extinct.

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posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: intrepid




We are a violent species. We wouldn't be allowed to escape the solar system. 


Who's going to stop us?

Short of our own technology that is?


If they could make it here they are WAY more advanced than we are thankfully for us:


The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us.

Bill Watterson


www.brainyquote.com...




posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: intrepid

Picard is British.
Surely you can tell the difference.
Lol



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

He's Canadian, of course he can tell the difference.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: intrepid

I'm of the mind that there is no they out there.
Or if there is they are just as limited as we are in living outside their original environment.

They will stay in their fish tank. We will stay in ours.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: BotheLumberJack

You must mean Intrepid.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: DieGloke

Yes.

But our deaths would be eco-friendly and carbon neutral.

So it's okay.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme




I'm of the mind that there is no they out there.


Sure there is.

The universe has to have intelligent life out there.

Cause it sure isn't at the center of it. Here on Earth.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




But our deaths would be eco-friendly and carbon neutral.




Black holes!

The universe's natural garbage disposals.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: intrepid

I'm of the mind that there is no they out there.
Or if there is they are just as limited as we are in living outside their original environment.

They will stay in their fish tank. We will stay in ours.


Hard to say. Our solar system is only 3.5 billion years old. That in itself can have had life before we even crawled out of the muck. Then there's other galaxies. It's not only size but time as well.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: DieGloke

The reason why the 'socialist' positive utopia works in Star Trek is because there's no need to be greedy for anything anymore. Health issues are almost non existent, they can travel faster than the speed of light, technology has allowed them to further their personal goals and pursue science and arts, etc, etc. More theoretical physicists believe if our civilization can survive for another 1000 years, we will be close to such a world.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: strongfp




The reason why the 'socialist' positive utopia works in Star Trek is because there's no need to be greedy for anything anymore.


The reason it works is because it's a fictional script.

No need to be greedy.

Imperial expansion into the galaxy,and universe and all parts in between.

The definition of greedy.

Dilithium yes we can( Think oil).



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: neo96

It's still a better life for humans tho. OP was bringing up if we had a world like the one in star trek would it end humanity? I don't think so. It puts humans first, and the reason why the federation exists is to protect earth and it's colonies.

I thought people loved the whole 'nationalistic' pride this day in age. You saying we all can't get along in a world where space is the final frontier?



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

What was nationalistic about Star Trek ?

An Alien was it's president'.

Star Trek was globalism to the extreme.

Other worldly.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Yes, Intrepid.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: strongfp

What was nationalistic about Star Trek ?

An Alien was it's president'.

Star Trek was globalism to the extreme.

Other worldly.


Planet earth? You do know that a multicultural society doesn't need to literally ONE race or one type of people or I guess in star trek land, one type of species.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: DieGloke

Or should we adopt a human first attitude, prioritizing our species above all else?

Greed and selfishness are not traits any species should have. You can be defensive of your kind, But not at the total expense of others. That's why this planet is in the state it is now. Calling it 'liberalism' doesn't help anything one bit. A "me first" view can be applied to this simple situation: Someone has just been given/ won $1,000,000, and they encounter a clearly homeless, starving person or group of people. With the "me first" attitude, they wouldn't dare stoop so low as to help or so much as bother to acknowledge their presence, but would hire rent a cops to clear them from their sight. A "liberal", as you put it (Not even the correct term- 'compassionate' is a better one) would do one simple thing: stop and ask "How can I help", without thought of reward. When doing good and helping others has one punching numbers into a tax deduction calculator, or wondering what kind of media attention they can glom onto, That sort of attitude is despicable. It's also inhuman, in my opinion. Then again- my faith in 'humanity' is at absolute 0 anymore.

I am clearly tired of the "I got mine, phvc you" attitude so many people have.
edit on 29-7-2018 by wylekat because: Punctuation is where it's at.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: wylekat


Greed and selfishness are not traits any species should have.


But that is how it is.

Nature has made the rules and the rules say species compete for survival.



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:37 AM
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Clickbait title much?

Honestly I have no idea how the title of this thread has anything to do with the OP.

Within Star Trek they have complex philosophies around inter-species relations, stuff like the prime directive preventing developed species interacting with less developed species and various treaties. Within Star Trek its hardly a utopia, lots of war, racism, suffering all that good stuff.

Its a fictional world, but following the way that universe works it seems like Humanity gets on rather well for the most part.

I wonder if this thread is about Star Trek or bashing liberalism as possibly brining about the end of the human race though?

edit on 29-7-2018 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: DieGloke

I think it takes a variety of people working together to make any kind of system work. We need creative types to dream up ideas, detail oriented people to draw the designs, industrious people to build the machines, and productive people to carry out the minutia.

It could be argued that we even need the bad folks to keep us focused on the need for innovation. All of our societal and industrial progress has evolved from a necessity to overcome threats and obstacles.

If we were to eliminate even one part of this formula, we may not have what is required to continue moving forward.

The dichotomy of liberal vs conservative is not really what we are up against. I think a lot of people are mistaking this politicians gang war going on in the media as an example of how we should see and treat eachother. Boiling everybody down to either liberal or conservative is not even a remotely fair description. But this is how they keep their power. Each side presenting themselves as right and just. Which leaves those on the other side as the evil criminal corrupting element.
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posted on Jul, 29 2018 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: DieGloke

According to Carl Sagan the nearest star system would more than likely hear from us via Hitlers propaganda speeches, so the liberals get off the hook.

I'm more worried about all the porn, in fifty years aliens could be disgusted by our filthy mating rituals-'oh come on that doesn't belong in there! and why is that female sharing a glass of feces with another female? if I wanted to dry reach i'd watch the coverage of the 2016 election again.'

Our politicians aren't the greatest of Earths Ambassadors, which could be another indication of why Fermi's Paradox could be more accurate than first believed.




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