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originally posted by: JimOberg
Thanks for the effort, it's always valuable to sharpen one's own arguments. I'm off on personal stuff for a few days but will pop in from time to time.
Just curious, does this 'can't-be-ice argument also apply to the STS-48 zig-zagger? Here's my report on that bizarre video, where did I get it wrong?
The full array of the overwhelming evidence for the prosaic explanation [which a panel of NASA experts first came up with, not me] and the refutation of Kasher’s and Carlotto’s half-baked complaints is all on my home page here –
originally posted by: JimOberg
The other fundamental issue here, Shrike, is your insistence that any contrary testimony by the actual on-scene witnesses, the astronauts, should be disregarded because they are obviously being compelled to lie. Is that really your assertion?
originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: The Shrike
The STS-175 tether footage took my breath away the first time I saw it. It looked like space was teeming with life so I sat and watched it with synapses firing and a sense of wonder roaring. A second viewing had a subtly different result and by the third or fourth it dawned that this wasn't 'life' and certainly not intelligent life. The subsequent explanations about ice crystals and particles of debris made more sense to me than the idea of some type of eukaryotes drifting around space.
A lot of people were stuck on the idea of a swarming mass of flying saucers and others thought they saw life-forms with the curiosity of nosy dogs. They all look like particles/debris to me and I find my mind can't feel the sense of wonder it did when the videos were released by Martyn Stubbs or polished up by LunaCognita et al.
People don't tend to click links anymore and others are scared a visit to Jim's website will put them on a list so I've taken the liberty of snipping two pages. The pages are helpful in giving witness testimony from NASA bods.
It'll be interesting to see how fresher minds relate to the numerous NASA videos and the moving objects within.
originally posted by: CaptainBeno
OK. Here's my two cents worth.
1. DEFINITELY NOT ICE CRYSTALS
2. DEFINITELY NOT ICE CRYSTALS
3. DEFINITELY NOT ICE CRYSTALS
OK. I get the whole space thing. but space thing included, we still have the laws of physics to respect when coming to a conclusion. Now, I may be stupid on most things, but ice crystals floating in space do not have a mind of their own. Nor do they have brakes, nor do they change direction at will, nor do they flash and nor do they form formations and perform movements whilst in formation.
I dare anyone to tell me otherwise and I'd still call bollox.
IT SIMPLY CAN'T AND DOES NOT HAPPEN. END OF.
originally posted by: bluemooone2
They are small maneuverable satellites that are released by the station. There is an old thread on ATS that showed something that we were not supposed to see and I hope someone here has it or can find it and post a link. Just one more smoking gun thread that has disappeared into the insanely huge archives.