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Jewish Organizations Oppose Stifling Criticism of Israel

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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 10:19 AM
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The following is quoted from a website associated with the International Middle East Media Center.

This is a news source that combines the points of view of Palestinian and International journalists.

In this article, Rebecca Vilkomerson, the Executive Director, Jewish Voice for Peace, is quoted.


JVP: 40 Jewish Groups Worldwide Oppose Equating Anti-Semitism with Criticism of Israel
July 22, 2018 9:08 PM
IMEMC News & Agencies Boycott Movement, Human interest, International, Non-violent action

From South Africa to Sweden, New Zealand to Germany to Brazil, for the first time ever, over thirty Jewish organizations across the globe came together in a statement condemning attempts to stifle criticism of Israel.. .

imemc.org...


It is so nice to read about peace instead of war.

Here is Rebecca Vilkomerson being interviewed:


TheRealNews
Published on Jun 3, 2018


Whereas groups like the Anti-Defamation League have long defended Israeli government policies, a new generation of activists -- young American Jews, college students, Black Lives Matter organizers -- is standing up for Palestinian rights. Jewish Voice for Peace's Rebecca Vilkomerson and TRNN's Aaron Mate discuss



www.youtube.com...


(TRNN=The Real News Network)




posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

Amazing that this info is even available. I seriously doubt MSN/CNN/FOX/ABC will carry this news. The media is controlled (bought) so we see what eventually leads to profits (wars/conflict).
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If or when "free" internet speech is lost, so will stories like this.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

It’s not surprising at all..

The vast majority of American Jews are liberals...


It is actually Christian conservatives who are the “isreal can do no wrong “ group in the US..



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: LiberateEarth

It’s not surprising at all..

The vast majority of American Jews are liberals...


It is actually Christian conservatives who are the “isreal can do no wrong “ group in the US..


Ugh....... You are incapable of stopping this little poo flinging syndrome of yours, aren't you? How has your hyper-partisan nonsense not resulted in a ban yet?

On topic: I think this is great news, I'm just waiting now for the Anti-Defamation League to call them all "Self hating Jews", or some other bull$hit.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: ZombieZygote

Is it not true that Christian conservatives (or is it fundamentalists?) believe that Jews are God's chosen people and that Israel was given to the Jews by God?



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox



It is actually Christian conservatives who are the “Israel can do no wrong “ group in the US.


That's not really correct. It's the Evangelists that are the problem. It's those people who actually believe that the bible is true and want it to become their future. Sadly your president panders to these people, for votes.

As for the OP, I'm also not surprised. In fact there have been many Jewish organisations and prominent voices who have and continue to criticise Israel.

The simple fact is that criticising Israel is not anti-semitic, although DBCowboy seems to think so.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

These are some helpful links in this argument.. Use them wisely..

These are the same group that will fight tooth and nail for Unborn Babies and then as soon as they are born, their backs get turned... Same EXACT GROUP


www.nkusa.org...

www.nkusa.org...

www.truetorahjews.org...



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 04:48 PM
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Yes I am disturbed by moves to equate criticism of a country with anti Semitism. It’s Orwellian.

I thought Israel is multicultural and has equal rights for all? How can it be both “the only multicultural democracy in the Middle East” and that it’s anti Semitic to criticize it?

Even if it is a Jewish state, criticizing the country doesn’t impugn worldwide Jewry. Saying criticizing Israeli actions is anti Semitic is like saying that criticizing the Chinese government is racist against Asians. It’s absurd prima facie.

a reply to: LiberateEarth


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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 04:51 PM
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Some have already made that self hating allegation.
a reply to: ZombieZygote



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: LiberateEarth

It’s not surprising at all..

The vast majority of American Jews are liberals...


It is actually Christian conservatives who are the “isreal can do no wrong “ group in the US..
Well there are a lot of zionists in the dem party too.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: JimNasium

Your first link is to Neturei Karta International: Jews United Against Zionism, "Judaism and Zionism Are Not the Same Thing."

Are you saying that this organization is anti-abortion, but do not have a right-to-life attitude toward people once they are born?



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: JoshuaCox
It's the Evangelists that are the problem.

I'm reading an article right now that made me think of your post.

The article is posted on the American Herald Tribune website and is basically a transcript of an interview of Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro by Adriel Kasonta, a London-based political consultant and analyst. The title is "Zionism Has Nothing to Do with Judaism."

Rabbi Shapiro was asked, "Is Zionism a Jewish invention? What is the role of the Evangelical Protestantism in shaping the Jewish secular thought?"

Here is the answer:


No, Zionism is not Jewish in origin. Centuries before Hess or Herzl were born the Evangelicals already created and pursued Zionist ideology. Prof. Yakov Rabkin (History, University of Montreal) got it right in the Glossary of his book “What is Modern Israel,” where he defined Zionism as “Ideology of protestant Christian origin that propounds the assembly of the Jews in Palestine. At the end of the 19th century, a group of activists of Jewish origin in Central Europe established the Zionist political movement etc.” Christian Zionism originated in the late 1500’s, early 1600’s. The Jews never wanted to return to the Holy Land en masse until the Messiah arrives and peace would reign in the world, and the universe would be ruled by a spirit of G-d. The idea that Jews should return, create a political sovereign state there was invented by the Christians. So many aspects of Zionism that we attribute to Jews were actually invented by the Christians. People attribute the idea oat Jews should speak Hebrew to the ultra-Zionist, secular Jew, Ben-Yehuda. It was the idea of the Christian Zionist Benedetto Musolino, who preceded Ben Yehuda. The slogan “a land without a people for a people without a land,” which Abu Mazen recently quoted in the name of Theodor Herzl – that was a mistake – Herzl didn’t say it – it was really said by Israel Zangwill and common among Jewish Zionists at the end of the nineteenth and beginning of the twentieth century – was already used by Christian Zionists such as Lord Shaftesbury and Alexander Keith in the 1840’s before any Zionist ever thought of it. It was a Christian Zionist, Rev. William Hechler, who approached Herzl saying he was the fulfilment of his own prophetic interpretation of the scriptures. Hechler used his enormous political connections to introduce Herzl to the most powerful political leaders of Germany and England to lobby for Zionism, including the Grand Duke of Baden, and the Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany. Incredibly, Jewish Zionists have adopted Christian interpretation of the scriptures, abandoning Jewish ones, to garner support from Christian Evangelicals, Zionism’s strongest supporters. Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of the so-called Jewish state, and self-proclaimed leader of world Jewry spoke at the site of the Auschwitz concentration camp and publicly repeated an interpretation of Ezekiel 37 – the prophecy of the “Dry Bones,” applying it to the state of Israel, an interpretation found in no Jewish source – indeed, it contradicts Judaic doctrine – and was invented by the Reverend Charles Haddon Spurgeon in 1864! And repeated by Evangelicals such as John Hagee. The ideology of modern Zionism is much more Christian Evangelical than it is traditional Jewish. In fact, a Pew survey done about 5 years ago concluded that while most Jews do not believe God gave Israel to the Jews, 80% of white evangelical Protestants do.

ahtribune.com...



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth

Criticize them all you want, but it is unfair to only tell half the story. Most MSM focuses only on Israel's response to attacks/threats and not the action/attack that prompted the retalatiation

There is an extreme anti-Israel bias among the left and its media, and shamefully even part of the far-right.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: myselfaswell

DBCowboy is right. Israel's enemies are ideologically/religious based. They are hated by Iran & radical Islam just because of their nationality/religion.

Those taking actions (including the disgusting "BDS" terror campaign) to support Israel's despicable enemies should be ashamed of themselves.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth
a reply to: ZombieZygote

Is it not true that Christian conservatives (or is it fundamentalists?) believe that Jews are God's chosen people and that Israel was given to the Jews by God?


I believe that the Jews are God's chosen people and that much of what today is Israel, The Sinai Peninsula and the Negev, with thin slivers of Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria was 'the promised land' in the Bible. Promised Land - Wikipedia.

That being said, it does not mean that everything the modern secular state of Israel does, is beyond reproach. They should be held accountable exactly as should any other country or state.

In the propaganda war that is currently being waged against Israel, its opponents are sponsors of terrorism, were allied to Nazism and have attempted to destroy Israel through military conquest several times (failing each time). If Israel is to be fairly judged, then its opponents, judged by the same rules, have been excessively evil.

The Palestinians have been offered statehood and sovereign territory several times and have refused. That is because they (and their Middle Eastern allies) don't actually want statehood, what they want (and have stated this), is that they want the Jews dead.

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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
I believe that the Jews are God's chosen people . . .

Why would God choose one group over another?



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: LiberateEarth

originally posted by: chr0naut
I believe that the Jews are God's chosen people . . .

Why would God choose one group over another?


I don't exactly know, but I suspect that it has to do with the character of Jacob (who God renamed Israel) and to promises specifically made to him.

There are more than 22 references, restating that God has specifically chosen the Jews, in the Old Testament.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: JoshuaCox



It is actually Christian conservatives who are the “Israel can do no wrong “ group in the US.


That's not really correct. It's the Evangelists that are the problem. It's those people who actually believe that the bible is true and want it to become their future. Sadly your president panders to these people, for votes.

As for the OP, I'm also not surprised. In fact there have been many Jewish organisations and prominent voices who have and continue to criticise Israel.

The simple fact is that criticising Israel is not anti-semitic, although DBCowboy seems to think so.


Not all critics of Israel are anti-Semitic, but all anti-Semitics are critical of Israel.





posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: LiberateEarth


The Palestinians have been offered statehood and sovereign territory several times and have refused. That is because they (and their Middle Eastern allies) don't actually want statehood, what they want (and have stated this), is that they want the Jews dead.



posted on Jul, 27 2018 @ 02:53 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
There are more than 22 references, restating that God has specifically chosen the Jews, in the Old Testament.

Well, in my opinion, God is the God of the entire cosmos, and doesn't have a religion.

All that is originates from that same source.




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