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Meet the Proposed F-15X, carrier of 24 AAM or SDB

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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: lakenheath24
Or 88 missiles from 4 X models. Which maths do you think wins here? There isn't going to be anymore F-22's and the Beagles have better things to do like strike. They need something known, concrete and enhanced now. This ticks the required boxes, that's the point.




posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

It's called "sensor/shooter" for a reason.

Just like you don't need an A-10 to kill Taliban pickup trucks, you don't need stealth aircraft for every mission out there. Stealth is great, but it's not the be all, end all, and an all high tech force doesn't work well for everything out there.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:21 AM
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LM can't even sort out ALIS for their own jets yet, you really think a Boeing jet is going to integrate? Personally, I would prefer to see a new missile with a longer range and the ability to track Russian/Chinese stealth. The 9's and 120's must be at the edge of usefulness for that.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Exactly, which is why over 60% of AF missions were drones last year. We have a fleet for that already. We need to counter the Russia/China threat with their stealth stuff.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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So which UAVs do we have for air to air? Oh, right, more stealth. I guess that means we should have a half stealth, half UAV fleet.
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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:51 AM
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What does ALIS have to do with it? Any aircraft that has the required receivers and links can talk to any other. It doesn't matter if it's an E-3, or an F-15.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:52 AM
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Let's do some math with this.

A $400M F-22 would buy 4 to 5 F-35As or more than 6 F-15Xs.

The F-22 will not be 4x better than the F-35 in air to air. 5 F-35s can be in multiple places a single F-22 cannot.

The export ban on the F-22 was also, at the time, largely related to the politics of competition with Japan. Many folks here, at least the younger ones, seem to have forgotten about how the drum beats of the 80s were that Japan was going to overtake the US and rule the world. These fears spread to Congress. The primary export client for the F-22 would have been Japan...and Japan would have wanted a nontrivial amount of tech transfer. The worry was Japan would then take that knowledge and use it to make better planes than we could.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:55 AM
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So which UAVs do we have for air to air?


Predators can carry Stingers?

Anyone remember the mouse flipping off the eagle video when the Predator fired a stinger at an Iraqi MiG-25 in the 90s?
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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:36 AM
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How fun is it that the USAF seem to be embracing the quality of quantity just like folk on here bark on about the russians doing it, when the US does it, its like, "no get more technology".

Has the thread considered the Navy? If the Airforce get F-15X will the Navy get F/A-18X?



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: anzha
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So which UAVs do we have for air to air?


Predators can carry Stingers?

Anyone remember the mouse flipping off the eagle video when the Predator fired a stinger at an Iraqi MiG-25 in the 90s?


Reapers with Stingers, I can hear the A-Team music and the zip of zip ties!!!



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:45 AM
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Read much?


www.janes.com...
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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:50 AM
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Except lockheed maintains strict control of proprietary info. Reference the UAE block 50s. Even in test the us version of the 35 B was blocked off from view from the rest of the jets at pautuxant. Foreigners dont get all the goodies.

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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:54 AM
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I talked to an esgle driver last week. Biggest concern for him was that the US had technology which easily countered Russian numbers.......now russia has some good tech and is putting it in all thise ac so the advantage has narrowed considerably. Also....there are lot of avenues that stealth alone cant cover like comms, radio emmissions, gps emmissions and other stuff. Much more to it than radar.

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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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More than you. So, you think a Reaper stands a chance air to air against a fast jet better than an Eagle? Really?
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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 10:19 AM
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AF seems to think so. BVR? Up to the weapons then. When was the last dogfight involving an Eagle?



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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No, the AF thinks they should be able to defend themselves if someone like Iran tries to intercept them again, like they have in the past.

A Reaper flies at something like 250 miles an hour. They'd have to launch 12 hours ahead of time to get in the area to be useful.
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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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The new proposed aircraft a squadron of them could wipe out a non major power's airforce or at least what it puts up in the sky. I think that is what kind of foe it would go against.

Not everyone in the world has 5th Gen capabilities.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 11:07 AM
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LOL!! IRAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like this encounter?
theaviationist.com... Ooooooh, scary.

The F-22 part backs up my point in that same article, but cmon man. Iran's frontline fighter is an F bloody 4!!

This is the future...like it or not.

www.popsci.com...



WW2 Navy pilots defeated superior Japanese planes through tactics. Same in Korea and Vietnam. Superior Tactics.
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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: lakenheath24

So which UAVs do we have for air to air? Oh, right, more stealth. I guess that means we should have a half stealth, half UAV fleet.

And sending out F-15X in 2030 against Russian or Chinese 5th Gens will work out just fine?
Making AtA work with a non stealth platform will be very tricky going forward to say the least. Its not impossible but i really don't think a 4.5th Gen arsenal fighter is the best way to deal with potentially hundreds of modern fighter jets on the other side.
This problem should be solved with NGAD/PCA, nothing else. Ressources are finite.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 11:18 AM
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