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EU gives in to Trump to avoid trade war...more winning!!!

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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 05:51 AM
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originally posted by: BringMeThanos

originally posted by: notsure1
America first.. LOL the left must be losing their minds.. Trump right again Morons wrong again..

Thats Trump 223 idiots -2 LOl


Wow. Why do so many Trump supporters come off like they are pre-pubescent teenagers. Its cringe-worthy to read.


Looks to me with all the Nazi talk they are just gloating like the left did.

Stay Neutral but don't let the tyrranny get you from the left.

More gov is a progressive/socialist desire. Less gov is the true liberal/conservative desire. Which do YOU want?




posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 05:55 AM
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a reply to: pavil

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.



There are reasons for cautious optimism. A crack down on China's use of state and "privately" owned companies as geoeconomic and geostrategic leavers is long overdue. However, how genuine the EU are at the removal of tariffs is open to debate. The sway pro agricultural subsides special groups have over Congress also casts doubts on the ability of the U.S. to meet their end of the deal.

Trump's trade policies are not unlike Reagan's approach to nuclear disarmament/Soviet Union. Trump is using a build up of tariffs to try and force the removal or downgrading of the current tariff regimes of traditional trading partners.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 06:00 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman


Stay Neutral but don't let the tyrranny get you from the left.

More gov is a progressive/socialist desire. Less gov is the true liberal/conservative desire. Which do YOU want?


Donald Trump has imposed tariffs and is using government debt to pay off the farmers this is hurting, using an progressive program started by FDR. He also wants to increase the size of ICE, giving them more power to randomly stop citizens and demand they prove themselves. He can't find the money to expand veteran's services, but wants an expensive missile parade through the capital. Which does HE want?



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: xpert11


The sway pro agricultural subsides special groups have over Congress also casts doubts on the ability of the U.S. to meet their end of the deal.


Exactly. Agriculture and energy, two of our most important exports, are highly subsidized. There is not much political wiggle room for Congress, and Trump must tread carefully... not one of his strong suits.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Justoneman


Stay Neutral but don't let the tyrranny get you from the left.

More gov is a progressive/socialist desire. Less gov is the true liberal/conservative desire. Which do YOU want?


Donald Trump has imposed tariffs and is using government debt to pay off the farmers this is hurting, using an progressive program started by FDR. He also wants to increase the size of ICE, giving them more power to randomly stop citizens and demand they prove themselves. He can't find the money to expand veteran's services, but wants an expensive missile parade through the capital. Which does HE want?


Your willfully ignorant if you can't see this "forest for the trees". How much more winning can I take, a whole hell of a lot more because people in the middle like me are seeing this for what it is, improving our country and the welfare of our citizens unlike the last 4 POTUS. You need to use your reading skills and not emotion.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: DJW001




So... the title of this thread has exactly wrong. Trump caved and will lift the tariffs, and Europe will drop those they imposed in retaliation. Then the diplomats will negotiate and negotiate....


Colour me not surprised.

Our Authoritarian Trump Supporters probably just lobotomized themselves again. Can't be the case that he dropped his stupid tariffs as well in order to make a deal.
Nonono! This is the best deal, with only one side winning!




posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: Butterfinger
Worst "dictatorship" and "police state" EVER!


No one knows more or is more better at dictatorships than Donald
No one operates a police state or knows more about police states than Donald!



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: ManFromEurope


All it really said is Trump is agreeing to Delay, not cancel, a yet to be implemented car tariff.

I re-read most of it and still could not find anything else but that one Temporary "Concession".

I found a small laundry list of Euro Concessions, however. I don't see any need to rub that in your face, but it appears from your behavior that you may not be aware they exist, so I would kindly suggest that perhaps you ought to re-read the Spiegel Online source a little more carefully.

Trump himself tweeted that the EU and the US love each other. Juncker is beaming with pride.

Everyone walked away happy and you still want to find a way to crap all over this momentous occasio,n



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 07:11 AM
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Gotta love the magats, they are the most gullible idiots on the planet. a reply to: matafuchs



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 07:25 AM
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So much winning, suckers....thehill.com... a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:35 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
In Germanys news:


Success for the EU
US President Trump wants to disarm in the trade dispute

When meeting with EU leader Juncker, the US president makes surprising concessions. He wants to negotiate a big agreement with the Europeans and waive car duties for the time being. What is behind this about-turn?
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The matter actually seemed clear: Just over an hour ago, the President of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, and US President Donald Trump wanted to talk to each other in Washington about the trade conflict. That's it. A press statement was not provided. With a concrete result was hardly expected.

But then the two politicians sat in the Oval Office for two and a half hours - and suddenly there was a hastily arranged appearance for Juncker and Trump in the rose garden of the White House in front of the press. "I came to Washington with the intention of getting a deal and I got one," the EU boss announced proudly.


Source: Spiegel Online
HA! Suck this, USA.
(This is a lesson in media competence)



I would have given you more credit than to not be able recognise **SPIN**

when you see it





posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: xpert11


Trump's trade policies are not unlike Reagan's approach to nuclear disarmament/Soviet Union. Trump is using a build up of tariffs to try and force the removal or downgrading of the current tariff regimes of traditional trading partners.


People forget that to negotiate effectively, you overstate your objective so when you give concessions, you still arrive at your intended goal.

If we had done that with Iran, we'd have a solid deal in place. But we had Obama and Kerry running that and you see the result.
edit on 26-7-2018 by pavil because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: notsure1

Only just started reading Page 1 but.....



None of them have any balls.


You really think the British people have 'no balls'?



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1
trump just keeps showing how weak the rest of the world really is. And they need us alot more than we need them.

None of them have any balls.
Maybe the World needed a good leader to pull us all out of the NWO agenda, but he's got a lot of reversing to do and I hope it's not temporary. The NWO is freaking out.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: notsure1

Only just started reading Page 1 but.....



None of them have any balls.


You really think the British people have 'no balls'?



I think they are ahead of us in nannystatism.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: notsure1

Only just started reading Page 1 but.....



None of them have any balls.


You really think the British people have 'no balls'?





You do have to hold your leaders feet to the fire re:Brexit. Every party seems intent on sabotaging it.
Politicians don't care about the will of the people. They will figure out a way to wiggle out of it if you let them.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Justoneman


Stay Neutral but don't let the tyrranny get you from the left.

More gov is a progressive/socialist desire. Less gov is the true liberal/conservative desire. Which do YOU want?


Donald Trump has imposed tariffs and is using government debt to pay off the farmers this is hurting, using an progressive program started by FDR. He also wants to increase the size of ICE, giving them more power to randomly stop citizens and demand they prove themselves. He can't find the money to expand veteran's services, but wants an expensive missile parade through the capital. Which does HE want?


Except ICE is identifying and deporting “non” US citizens, aren’t they? Please try not to mimic the lies and misinformation of the liberals. MSM already has that covered...



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: sapien82

originally posted by: Butterfinger
Worst "dictatorship" and "police state" EVER!


No one knows more or is more better at dictatorships than Donald
No one operates a police state or knows more about police states than Donald!

Oh right he must be more police statism than swats beating people's doors down in a door to door search for a Chechen terrorist who used nails in a pressure cooker during a major event and forcing socialist medicine down our throats with penalties for not purchasing a product on the market or you know like killing American citizens abroad without a trial by a jury of their peers and oh yes let's not forget using the FBI and fisa courts to surveill and set up an opponent in a Presidential election .. yes just keep telling everyone your story.
edit on 26-7-2018 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: soundguy
Gotta love the magats, they are the most gullible idiots on the planet. a reply to: matafuchs



When you just resort to insults, you already lost the debate. Maybe we will lose the current trade war with China and you can have something to cheer about.

To the OP:

This is great progress towards our fight against China. The EU promising to buy more soybeans and natural gas dampens the blow China can deal out against the US. I won't get too excited about promises and will wait for concrete changes. But with the EU saying they're going to help us fight China's theft of intellectual property rights, things are looking up. On top of all that, we also recently received news that Mexico's new president is looking to work with Trump on new trade deals and I'm sure Canada will fall in line really soon. The only recent action I don't like is the $12B farmer bailout that was recently pushed through, but I haven't seen many details on who is receiving what. I just hope it's not to pad the pockets of some major farming corporations.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: soundguy

This right here is the whole problem...

Gotta love the magats, they are the most gullible idiots on the planet.


Group A says:
    I like what Trump just did because of reason A, reason B, and reason C. I think this might make objective D easier in the future too.

Group B says:
    Trump's a dictator and you're stupid!

And then Group B wonders why they're not being taken seriously... which reinforces to everyone else that they really shouldn't be taking them seriously...

TheRedneck



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