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Right wing propaganda has been so successful. Should the left do it too??

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posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 02:50 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Only to the fools who believe it,most people are cutting off their television sets,here in Calif,all they play are anti Trump liberal ads,and they get away expounding lies



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posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 03:40 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Breitbart, Infowars and sites like 'punditgateway' or whatever are stunning examples of partisan propaganda from the right-wing extremes. They're also brilliant in achieving what they set out to do which is influencing readers towards similar beliefs and ideology. People love that #!

Over in the left-wing extremes there are garbage propaganda sites like Occupy Democrats. For some reason, the far-left are nowhere near as good (or as popular) at creating the Breitbarts and I'm not sure why. It's easy to turn opposition politicians into caricatures and opposition voters are easy to ridicule too. The Left just don't seem to have the razzle-dazzle of their Right-wing opponents. I'm not saying the left are better, or more honourable, they just don't have the skills and I've no doubts they'd love a popular site like Breitbart.

TDS and snowflake have been the nuclear weapons of shutting down debate and the Left have failed miserably to generate their own negative insults. They've had two and a half years to come up with one good 'STFU insult' and can't do it.

Maybe they should try straightforward and honest and be the first party in decades to use 'tell the truth' as an ethos?? I must have been spiked or banged my head to suggest 'truth' as a political instrument!!



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:22 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

My assumption is that rightwing propaganda is meant for dumber people..

Liberals get all the intellectuals and scientists.. which make up the smartest people our society has to offer.. making them FAR harder to propagandize..

Liberals actually expect evidence when making a crazy claim. Just like with religion conservatives do not. All something needs to do is “sound good” , meet their preconceived biases and basically every conservative wil buy it hook line and sinker..
their propaganda isn’t even good...


Just 2 min of actual deductive reasoning put into imagaine what would be logistically required to pull off whatever “true pundit conspiracy “ debunks the whole thing..


So how and who exactly are they paying off all the scientists to fake global warming??

So how and who is paying off the media to discredit conservatives??

So what FBI agents are risking their careers and freedom to set Trump up knowing there are no democrats in power to protect them??


So how and who exactly is comming to get the guns??

It is propaganda meant for stupid people..

None of those things are even profitable.. all would cost money to orcastrate.. and people don’t orcastrate vast conspiracies for free..


So they have to base it on intangibles like “they are doing it for control “ or Satan...

Because there is no reason anyone would want spend money to do those things..



But as you mentioned it is just so damn successful for conservatives.. no matter how stupid it seems to anyone who actually thinks about it.



Do I want them to go all Fox News??

Of course not...

But Fox News Propaganda is winning..



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:29 AM
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a reply to: Oldtimer2

Or is it mostly true and trump is just that big of a disaster???

How many presidents would literally tell opposing lies in the same speech??

How many presidents paid off porn stars they cheated on their wives with to keep quite while they ran for office???

How many were being investigated by the FBI for being the agent of a foreign hostel government???


Of course I have seen some ridiculous attacks on trump like the sexual assault allegations.. well sans the rape accusation by Ivana and that is shady because she has recanted and it was in the middle of a bad divorce.. so the one credible accusation is still questionable.

But the vast majority are because trump is that crazy..



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:33 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

For me it was the weekly treasonous acts by obama that we’re constantly investigated by GOP led committees who found no no wrong doing. Yet they would still pretend it was real when speaking publicly.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:36 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

You mean like “right to work”, “the patriot act” , and all the other frank Lunz terms??

So what is the liberal version of those terms??

If they are all the same.. what is the leftwing version of that style of propaganda??



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: 3n19m470

The right has token brown people.. people who personally profit from spouting rightwing propaganda..

There is a reason all the white supremacy groups are proud card carrying republicans, who put on fundraisers for conservative candidates...and it is not because the right isn’t racist lol..

Are all republicans racists?? Absolutely not..

But all white racists are conservatives.. and proud card carrying conservatives at that..

So why would they be supporting the gop if they were all equality first??



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Both sides do it, the problem is the people who are dumbed down enough to trust the people who want power over them.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:46 AM
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If you want left biased,


Listen to illegally obtained leak tapes at CNN.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:47 AM
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If you want left biased,


From a few posts above.




The right has token brown people.. people who personally profit from spouting rightwing propaganda..


Da eff.

Token!



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I'm not even sure it's a Left/Right thing anymore. A lot of conservatives are along with Trump and his base for the ride. A lot of Dems went along with Hillary because she was the only game in town when Bernie was castrated by the DNC. A huge swathe of middle-ground, moderates have nobody to identify with. The fringes of these sides are often a law unto themselves and only barely reflect the policies/beliefs of conservatives or liberals.

I mean most right-wing people are sickened by the rise of far-right ultra-nationalists like National Vanguard. Most Lefties are appalled by the censorious, oppressive far-left. It's the same in Europe too as we're seeing lots of activity from groups seeking race warfare and no 'replacement.'

I think perhaps the Trump phenomena are because (like they say) people are pissed off with their own political parties and 'the right' is the first to mobilise and do something about it. Maybe one day 'the Left' will rise and reject the super-wealthy brokers of the Democratic Party? It might take a wave of propaganda to get us all moving away from old-style Party Politics or to make the leaders respect their electorate.

As I've mentioned before, I'm a left-leaning moderate and don't have an allegiance to any party or any politicians. They're all #e as we say in the UK. Propaganda is just another conjob on the population imo.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

As coherent as ever I see.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

It's like this, and I've explained it before.

There are two parties or "sides" in this country to vote for. Sure, we can talk about the minor actors like the Libertarians and Green Party all we want, but every time they could have done something, they choked (Gary Johnson anyone?).

So that means all of us more or less have one of two choices A or B for whom to pull the level when we step into the ballot box. ALL OF US - from the most honest and upstanding citizens (and all of us have differing ideas on who they are, ask some of our resident loons), to the so-called moderates who stick their fingers in the air, to the people on both sides who have clear principles, to the worst ones we can think of on both sides - have to go into that ballot box and pull the lever for pretty much A or B.

That means no matter who is voting, there is a 50/50 shot they voted like you did, no matter how wonderful or disgusting you may find them and their personal ideology. So trying to make a game of pushing people to disavow everyone who voted like them based on this or that hated idea or principle is just a silly game. Maybe it would be different if we were parliamentary in nature and had 10, 20, or 30 or more different parties all vying for our attention and votes ... but we don't.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 07:00 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

This is a ridiculous premise. The left media does the same. If one can't see that one doesn't want to. Societal blindness doesn't exist on one side of the political spectrum. What happened to you man? You used to post material worth reading. I stopped but this just screamed WTF. Find your center man, you're losing it.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 07:13 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I get all that believe it or not.


Like every country, people have varied beliefs that aren't necessarily delineated by a L/R axis. They have different wishes that might conflict with their neighbours. They want different things at different times in their lives and they want to think their voice gets heard by those in power.

Instead, they get two choices and "Come back in a couple of years."



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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My assumption is that rightwing propaganda is meant for dumber people..



My assumption is that rightwing propaganda is meant for dumber people..


Propaganda by nature is meant for people with similar ideological views as the source material. While I will give you that right wing propaganda is often times more blatant or out there, it doesn't meant that the lefts hands are clean of the same practice.

Some of the right wing members here may not think the right wing puts on propaganda, because they agree with what is said by it.

You for instance are under the impression that the left does not, but more importantly has not put out information to influence peoples opinion. The only way the propaganda works is that there are people on both sides not just willing to lap it up and spread it as fact, they're eager to.


Liberals get all the intellectuals and scientists.. which make up the smartest people our society has to offer.. making them FAR harder to propagandize..


All the intellectuals and scientists you say? Bold statement, I think there is some truth to that, but it's a bit disingenuous sold at face value.

Liberals get most university professors, which represent a broad range of study fields. Many of these professors are considered intellectuals because they've spent their life studying, but not practicing their subject.

As for the scientists, I'd like to see proof that all are democrats. Hell, I'd like to see proof that even most are political. If you would just give me 2 examples of prominent scientists being very political. All the interviews I've heard they don't much care for politics. I think you got that one confused because their research suggests the earth is warming. That is not a political issue, it is a scientific one. So if their data suggests something, that does not mean they are on your side politically.



So what FBI agents are risking their careers and freedom to set Trump up knowing there are no democrats in power to protect them??


We just saw a congressional hearing of a proven biased agent. Whether or not he had any impact is a moot point, as Trump is president. But the left certainly was giving him an easier time.

As for Comey, I don't think that anyone is protecting him, and he paid the price for his career.... And is about to be a millionaire for it.


So how and who is paying off the media to discredit conservatives??


Who would have enough money to pay of six corporations who own 90% of the media? Ever figure that they have their own agenda, seeing as media is not the bread and butter of some of these companies, like say GE? Also, keep in mind that they need ratings to stay afloat, it may not always be that they really care about conservatives, but some may just be milking this gravy train for all it's worth.

I think your OP and posts have been forms of propaganda. In your mind its just wild stories that aren't true that meets the criteria, but sometimes it's just baseless claims. For instance when you said all intellectuals are left leaning, how could you prove that? Are you not saying that some of the people who created whole industries but were republican weren't intellectuals? Unfortunately we hate things about other people we identify in ourselves. So when you call everyone on the right dumb because they fall for all the parties tricks, you might need a mirror.

The best piece of propaganda I could show you is that college republican and Henry Kissinger kiss ass Hillary Clinton was some how a good idea for the left. First, I think it's funny to think some people think she represents the left. She represents herself. She was anti gay marriage a few years ago, typically pro war, she's in bed with wall street, we could go on and on. Did her and her campaign not pay for the Steele dossier? Did she not get questions for a debate prior from someone close to CNN, did the DNC not collude to get her the nomination instead of Bernie, who is obviously a better representative of the party?



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 07:17 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Meh, I don't even think we often get two choices. Sometimes, it's more like like two sides of the same coin - heads or tails, D or R. The coin is the same though.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 07:22 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

That's how I tend to see it.

...now I'm uncomfortable because we've had common ground about three times this week. Let's post-edit and hope nobody noticed.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 07:27 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: JoshuaCox

This is a ridiculous premise. The left media does the same. If one can't see that one doesn't want to. Societal blindness doesn't exist on one side of the political spectrum. What happened to you man? You used to post material worth reading. I stopped but this just screamed WTF. Find your center man, you're losing it.



I wasn't joking earlier when I said he means well. I think he does, I believe he is the one who is on the left for altruism. That being said, he just doesn't realize that he is absorbing some of the half truths or in some instances lies they use to fuel the platform.

Such a shame, you don't have to go any further than any days new threads to see that there are instances of propaganda from both sides. Whether it is a member being a mouthpiece for their party, or many times when they use a questionable source.



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