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Right wing propaganda has been so successful. Should the left do it too??

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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

I really don't think they are operating in a conservative/ constitutional or liberal manner at all

I think they are represent the banks, military industrial complex and the 5-10 families that control the world and probably work for the Vatican or royal families you know something along those lines

there's real constitutional conservative voices in the MSM as well as true liberal voices
I agree, I’m convinced there is an establishment oligarchy transcending party, and these so called “rent seekers” will adopt whatever talking points get them ahead, assuage their masters, and quell the masses.




posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:00 PM
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I think what convinced me the right had gone full-on brain damaged was seeing people flying the confederate flag claiming to be the party of Abraham Lincoln. Seeing that level of intentional disregard for reality leaves a lasting impression on a person.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

pretty much, it's become more obvious than ever that the uni-party in congress and there is a group of right wing neo-cons who want to dominate our country through a fascist government incrementally through socialism and communism

neither of them represent the real constitutional conservatives (not the christian right but close) and the real liberal movement which is really about rugged individualism and freedom

I honestly think they are more similar than different however people have bought so heavily into the medias right/ left narrative they don't even know their political philosophy anymore
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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14


The reality though is a lot of legit liberals with integrity have been saying exactly that for years: Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, etc


Love me some Glenn, respect the hell out of Noam (don't agree with him as much, but I like hearing his views).
Here’s the thing, Chomsky has been calling out propaganda, deep state, media collusion, corruption, cia, you name it, for decades. Just look up his thesis on manufactured consent. It’s as on point as it gets with media and propaganda. I cite it frequently. These ideas aren’t new.

en.m.wikipedia.org...


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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:13 PM
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An interesting point. As you are saying, these terms start to lose meaning after a while, as well as these simplistic dichotomies.
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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

they don't lose meaning it's intentionally changed

if you follow the original intent of the words or etymology of the words you get a better sense of what's happening, I don't believe in modernizing the language it was designed intentionally



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Don't have to tell me man, I read his book Failed States, and that's what got me to really listen to him.

I have people on the right and left I absolutely love. While I don't subscribe to the socialist views he holds, I think he's a good person to have on your diversity mix.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:31 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yes, you are right...

The Left has tried to do it the honest way, they have been nothing but harbingers of Truth, Justice, Tolerance, for years and years, but the Right is just so dirty and corrupt and their propaganda is so sophisticated, that honest methods just won't work anymore... when you're fighting against pure evil like Trump, you have no choice.

The Right, which is composed of people of ALL colors, has been pushing their White Identity agenda So hard... the left had no choice but to follow suit and THAT'S where all the LGBT BLM BS came from. The Right wingers had provoked such a reaction from the left, what with them always throwing their Whiteness and White Pride in everyone's faces...

I guess all the nonwhite voters must have "nonwhite guilt"...

Yes, 'tis truly sad... This non-white guilt is real guys, believe it or not.

They feel guilty that they didn't have to be born white and put up with all the BS, being accused of racism and slavery and being inherently evil when prob ably less than 1 out of 10 white people in America have any meaningful connection to TransAtlantic slavery.

Non white guilt is real...



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock
I think the idea has some merit. The left should try its hand at putting out some propaganda.

The only problem is convincing the highly credible and professional left leaning news outlets to actually lie to their viewers. Therein lies the problem. I dont think they would put aside their integrity and morals to lie to their viewers.


Oh hell, this is the laugh of the night!

Outstanding comedy!



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
The right wing media has made a cottage industry out of creating an alternate reality where “they are comming to get your guns” , “Shiria law is comming to America”, “lock her up”, exc... and the crazier and more far fetched the narrative the more people buy into it..




You forgot "genocide of the white straight male" and "war on christmas".
Your thread sure triggered many emotional outbursts.
But yeah. Right wing propaganda is a well oiled machine. Just look at how many fake propaganda threads there is here on ATS. It only takes one look at a certain members posting history.
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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
The right wing media has made a cottage industry out of creating an alternate reality where “they are comming to get your guns” , “Shiria law is comming to America”, “lock her up”, exc... and the crazier and more far fetched the narrative the more people buy into it..




You forgot "genocide of the white straight male" and "war on christmas".
Your thread sure triggered many emotional outbursts.
But yeah. Right wing propaganda is a well oiled machine. Just look at how many fake propaganda threads there is here on ATS. It only takes one look at a certain members posting history.


Eh, there may be more right wing people on this site. But let's not act like both sides don't have sketchy narratives.

I saw plenty of nazi threads through both of the last two administrations here though. Recently it's been a hot buzz word. Though there is no genocide, I'll give you that children separated with sketchy at best plans to reunite at the border is not good... But the same people who are complaining about that (not all) turned a blind eye to the let's (administrations) impact on Syria and Libya. The death toll in those destabilizations will likely reach over a million.

Evidence that the propaganda exists, and not only that, both sides have people willing to serve as parrots to relay the conversation and keep it "relevant".

That may sound callus, but I've been vocal about my disdain of our foreign projection. Just calling a spaid a spaid.
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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:07 PM
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Totally,
We have to find the real people across the spectrum. That doesn’t mean we have to agree with every point they make or policy they support. My only point was that sometimes conservatives forget that some og liberals have been investigating issues from corruption to conspiracy to media propaganda to wars based on lies since like the 50’s. People forget that.
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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Totally,
We have to find the real people across the spectrum. That doesn’t mean we have to agree with every point they make or policy they support.
a reply to: CriticalStinker



At the end of the day, we're all on this small spinning ball shooting through space at gut wrenching speeds together.

Everyone I love is made up of very different cultures, backgrounds, creed, ethnicity, and general ideology.

Everyone I know loves their community, family and country. We all seem to agree we have particular problems, though we may be convicted of different solutions.

I have no problem with that, what I have a problem with is someone pissing on my foot and calling it rain. Don't read the script from your tribe, tell me what you think. One of those will piss me off, and one will engage me in very pleasing dialog.
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posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 12:30 AM
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lmfao.
ever hear of popular media?
i was listening to sirius radio today, i had to keep switching the talk shows because it was all so left biased.
im a libertarian, alt-right or ctrl-left are both sides of the same bullsh!t coin.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

The left doesn't have to make up an alternate reality. Despite unemployment being so low these numbers are really grim:

www.bls.gov...

Wealth inequality is at all-time highs and here's why:

www.quandl.com...

I said years ago if Trump were elected NOTHING would change. It appears I was absolutely right!



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Here's a better video on how propaganda techniques are used:




posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 12:51 AM
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originally posted by: dantanna
lmfao.
ever hear of popular media?
i was listening to sirius radio today, i had to keep switching the talk shows because it was all so left biased.
im a libertarian, alt-right or ctrl-left are both sides of the same bullsh!t coin.


I doubt it was "left biased". If you want left biased, here is your site:

truthout.org...

It's funny how the right always decides what it means to be left. Did you know Hillary Clinton admitted in her book she worked on Barry Goldwater's campaign in college. Hillary Clinton IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 01:27 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

If you want left biased, here is your site:

snopes.com



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 02:18 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


Uh.. I just wanted to point out that there are a lot of responses that you seem to be avoiding at this time. Don't ditch the party you started.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 02:43 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Right wing propaganda has been so successful. Should the left do it too??


They can try, but they would have to start broadcasting actual reality and I doubt they are gonna go there. No, I reckon they should just keep doing what they're doing - brainwashing anyone stupid enough to follow them.

Your OP is proof, and a testament to the consequential effect resultant from the aforementioned brainwashing.




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