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Offering no evidence, Trump says Russia will back Democrats in election

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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Trump is the king of “I know you are but what am I”..

He no longer attempts to actually make excuses for his bafoonery . He just says “I’m not doing that?!?! The democrats are doing
That!!”

And the sheeple just baaa baaa baaa right behind him..




posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Gandalf77

I'm choosing not to be a gullible, low information voter. Just because an alphabet agency or elected representative says something, doesn't mean it's accurate. We're a long, long ways from the 1950s.


That's BS, and you're smart enough to know it.
Do you have any factual evidence to counter the information in that indictment?
Or let me guess: It's all one giant fabrication. They made all of that evidence up just to waste tax-payer dollars.
The depths of the liberal deep state I suppose?
Yawn....


America's justice system is built on a principle of the prosecution proving their case, not the defendant proving their guilt. So far no evidence has been brought public... (yeah, yeah, the old fall back has become "they know things they haven't yet disclosed.") There's something significantly askew about the Resistance taking the position that it is somehow Trump and/or Trump supporter's responsibility to prove he didn't collude with Russia. Can't prove a negative, ya?


I'm not talking about Trump or his campaign working with Russia. That hasn't been officially addressed one way or the other yet. Let's let Mueller do his job, run every angle to the ground, and issue his report.

I'm talking about the 12 Russian GRU operatives who were indicted for attacking our electoral process.
Yes, the burden of proof is different for grand juries than an actual criminal trial. They're not deciding guilt.
They see the EVIDENCE and decide whether or not there is probable cause to bring an indictment.
A grand jury of Americans decided there was enough EVIDENCE to charge 12 Russians.

Now I ask you again: Do you have some facts to present that contradict anything presented in that indictment?
Are you going to show us something that proves those guys were NOT doing the things OUR GUYS caught them doing?

Or are you going to tell us these people are just gullible too?

Talk about confirmation bias...


You do realize most people automatically believe a authority figure right?


Does that same principle apply to Trump--the guy who lies on a daily basis?



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude




I know I do. But if the truth comes out to be nothing, then the last 2 years of dragging Trump through the mud will need a really, really good answer, or it may be time to jail some folks. Don't you agree?

No - I'll wait to see what the results are before I start talking about jailing people

Nobody wants to believe the worst - least of all me


As long as you are willing to deal with the results, I sure am. If somebody's guilty, hang em high. If they are not, then a 2 year investigation would be .......what would you call it.........a witch hunt?


Sounds a lot like Benghazi.


And what is it ya'll say about that? Justified investigations? Or did you have a different tune?



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:29 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude




I know I do. But if the truth comes out to be nothing, then the last 2 years of dragging Trump through the mud will need a really, really good answer, or it may be time to jail some folks. Don't you agree?

No - I'll wait to see what the results are before I start talking about jailing people

Nobody wants to believe the worst - least of all me


As long as you are willing to deal with the results, I sure am. If somebody's guilty, hang em high. If they are not, then a 2 year investigation would be .......what would you call it.........a witch hunt?


Sounds a lot like Benghazi.


And what is it ya'll say about that? Justified investigations? Or did you have a different tune?


Well, I don't care for Hillary, and even if I don't agree with everything he says, I respect Gowdy.
That investigation went on for a long time, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone was indicted.
Republicans maintained it had nothing to do with the election, and to be fair just for argument's sake, maybe it didn't.
But it did cost a lot of time, money, and effort. The investigation was allowed to run its course and conclude--and we're still hearing all about it. And Gowdy is an exceptionally talented prosecutor.

Now, comparatively speaking, how many indictments has Mueller's team issued? How many people and crimes?
If there's such a thing as a batting average for investigations, I'd say Mueller's looking like Ted Williams right about now.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: Gandalf77

The concept of metaphors seems lost on you, here's a factually confirming source of what they are.
www.grammarly.com...



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude




I know I do. But if the truth comes out to be nothing, then the last 2 years of dragging Trump through the mud will need a really, really good answer, or it may be time to jail some folks. Don't you agree?

No - I'll wait to see what the results are before I start talking about jailing people

Nobody wants to believe the worst - least of all me


As long as you are willing to deal with the results, I sure am. If somebody's guilty, hang em high. If they are not, then a 2 year investigation would be .......what would you call it.........a witch hunt?


Sounds a lot like Benghazi.


And what is it ya'll say about that? Justified investigations? Or did you have a different tune?


Well, I don't care for Hillary, and even if I don't agree with everything he says, I respect Gowdy.
That investigation went on for a long time, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone was indicted.
Republicans maintained it had nothing to do with the election, and to be fair just for argument's sake, maybe it didn't.
But it did cost a lot of time, money, and effort. The investigation was allowed to run its course and conclude--and we're still hearing all about it. And Gowdy is an exceptionally talented prosecutor.

Now, comparatively speaking, how many indictments has Mueller's team issued? How many people and crimes?
If there's such a thing as a batting average for investigations, I'd say Mueller's looking like Ted Williams right about now.


Yes, they caught, Vlad, and Vlad, and Vlad, along with his cousins........guess what their names are? Nameless, faceless entities to satisfy the masses who might believe such things. Maybe I'm wrong, and these 12 men did change the course of history in our great nation, by posting meme's, I can't say. I only hope that at some point people get back to provable facts, and leave the hopeful speculation in the place it belongs.
edit on 24-7-2018 by network dude because: bad spler



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Gandalf77

The concept of metaphors seems lost on you, here's a factually confirming source of what they are.
www.grammarly.com...


On the contrary, I love metaphors! They're intentionally substitutional, similar to the secret nature of language itself. We could talk at great length about this, but it may need to be in a completely different thread.

But since you're accusing me of not understanding them, perhaps you would be so kind as to elaborate upon thine most genius constructions there, eh Shakespeare? Anon, anon...



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Interesting. Putin helps Trump win 2016 Presidency. Resistance is high. He is hated. Putin helps Democrats win next election who are a party much closer to Socialism/Communism. Hmmm. I see Putin playing the long game, moving the chess pieces ever so cleverly in his favour. Crafty!



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude




I know I do. But if the truth comes out to be nothing, then the last 2 years of dragging Trump through the mud will need a really, really good answer, or it may be time to jail some folks. Don't you agree?

No - I'll wait to see what the results are before I start talking about jailing people

Nobody wants to believe the worst - least of all me


As long as you are willing to deal with the results, I sure am. If somebody's guilty, hang em high. If they are not, then a 2 year investigation would be .......what would you call it.........a witch hunt?


Sounds a lot like Benghazi.


And what is it ya'll say about that? Justified investigations? Or did you have a different tune?


Well, I don't care for Hillary, and even if I don't agree with everything he says, I respect Gowdy.
That investigation went on for a long time, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone was indicted.
Republicans maintained it had nothing to do with the election, and to be fair just for argument's sake, maybe it didn't.
But it did cost a lot of time, money, and effort. The investigation was allowed to run its course and conclude--and we're still hearing all about it. And Gowdy is an exceptionally talented prosecutor.

Now, comparatively speaking, how many indictments has Mueller's team issued? How many people and crimes?
If there's such a thing as a batting average for investigations, I'd say Mueller's looking like Ted Williams right about now.


Yes, they caught, Vlad, and Vlad, and Vlad, along with his cousins........guess what their names are? Nameless, faceless entities to satisfy the masses who might believe such things. Maybe I'm wrong, and these 12 men did change the course of history in our great nation, by posting meme's, I can't say. I only hope that at some point people get back to provable facts, and leave the hopeful speculation in the place it belongs.


I get what you're saying, believe me.
That indictment was full of all kinds of facts. They needed evidence to establish probable cause in order to get the indictment in the first place. Now it's doubtful they'll ever see the inside of a court room.
But there shouldn't be any question in anyone's mind at this point that Russia did indeed meddle in our electoral process.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Putin, like Trump, has a faction of his country against him....its simple politics.

Trump and Putin may be very well aligned. The US MSM wants everyone to think it's all of Russia vs all of the US. You cant pick and choose.


Someone should make a thread about this Russian Deep State that Putin has to fight, or maybe there is one already. Folks bring it up sometimes, but I have seen no specifics. Maybe Putin can give Trump some tips on how to deal with troublemakers.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: Cutepants

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Putin, like Trump, has a faction of his country against him....its simple politics.

Trump and Putin may be very well aligned. The US MSM wants everyone to think it's all of Russia vs all of the US. You cant pick and choose.


Someone should make a thread about this Russian Deep State that Putin has to fight, or maybe there is one already. Folks bring it up sometimes, but I have seen no specifics. Maybe Putin can give Trump some tips on how to deal with troublemakers.


...can't say I'd mind seeing news of the Resistance's leadership falling ill from mysterious causes while visiting London.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 08:33 PM
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No one can recognize the acerbic sarcasm? He's just turning the tables; what he's saying is if the Russians could influence the Presidential election, then they are perfectly capable and inclined to disrupt the midterms as well, in order to to "sow discord." Wasn't that the parroted talking point? It works both ways, then. If the Russians were behind both fake BLM/ANTIFA activist accounts AND alt-right "fake news," then they clearly show no political bias therefore his point is sound.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: WarPig1939



At least we all can count on the mouth pieces of MSM to over analyze the sh%& out of every tweet Trump makes.


Over analyze? Trump doesn't have an in-depth vocabulary! He uses the same words constantly...Horrendous, Believe me, Loser, Incredible, Fake news, Tremendous, You'll find out, Huge/yuge...LOL.

What's there to analyze? The media is just pointing out the fact how stupid he is and how much he lies and makes conflicting statements.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: Kharron

It's funny they say "offering no evidence" while Trump explains the circumstances (evidence), for Russia to work against him.

It's also obviously conjecture about Russia, but Trump's supporters who read these tweets understand what his message is saying.

He isn't really posting these tweets for these low IQ news agencies that have only contempt for their own audiences.



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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Democrats in the hard-left are already working out how to blame Trump/Russia collusion if the Blue-wave doesn't come crashing in on the election beaches midterm. On the other hand, they can't risk having the general public believing the elections are illegitimate before hand, incase they win....



posted on Jul, 25 2018 @ 09:42 PM
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I guess the DNC will be backing the Russian nuclear program to win them over?



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 05:37 AM
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I quit reading when you said Russia got trump elected.

Go work for C(IA)NN if you wanna keep spreading the fakest of news.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 06:05 AM
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Yet another thread indicating the Trump Derangement Syndrome meters will need to be recalibrated for higher readings (again).

I do find it interesting that the left now wants “evidence” when their accusations aimed at POTUS 45 for the last 2 years or so required none. Hypercritical much? Or just more far left progressive liberal hyperbole? I suspect the American populace is more than aware...



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 07:50 AM
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originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude




I know I do. But if the truth comes out to be nothing, then the last 2 years of dragging Trump through the mud will need a really, really good answer, or it may be time to jail some folks. Don't you agree?

No - I'll wait to see what the results are before I start talking about jailing people

Nobody wants to believe the worst - least of all me


As long as you are willing to deal with the results, I sure am. If somebody's guilty, hang em high. If they are not, then a 2 year investigation would be .......what would you call it.........a witch hunt?


Sounds a lot like Benghazi.


And what is it ya'll say about that? Justified investigations? Or did you have a different tune?


Well, I don't care for Hillary, and even if I don't agree with everything he says, I respect Gowdy.
That investigation went on for a long time, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone was indicted.
Republicans maintained it had nothing to do with the election, and to be fair just for argument's sake, maybe it didn't.
But it did cost a lot of time, money, and effort. The investigation was allowed to run its course and conclude--and we're still hearing all about it. And Gowdy is an exceptionally talented prosecutor.

Now, comparatively speaking, how many indictments has Mueller's team issued? How many people and crimes?
If there's such a thing as a batting average for investigations, I'd say Mueller's looking like Ted Williams right about now.


Yes, they caught, Vlad, and Vlad, and Vlad, along with his cousins........guess what their names are? Nameless, faceless entities to satisfy the masses who might believe such things. Maybe I'm wrong, and these 12 men did change the course of history in our great nation, by posting meme's, I can't say. I only hope that at some point people get back to provable facts, and leave the hopeful speculation in the place it belongs.


I get what you're saying, believe me.
That indictment was full of all kinds of facts. They needed evidence to establish probable cause in order to get the indictment in the first place. Now it's doubtful they'll ever see the inside of a court room.
But there shouldn't be any question in anyone's mind at this point that Russia did indeed meddle in our electoral process.


But what does that really mean? That this was an isolated incident? This never happens, so it's unprecedented, and should be a huge deal? Or does things like this happen all the time, and from everyone, including us? All that is what needs to be understood and put in perspective. I have been asking this and trying to get people to see the bigger picture for a while now, to little avail.

It's not like the MSM could inflate something to manufacture outrage and point it in a specific direction.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: Kharron

He's known for over a year that Russia meddled in the election to get him elected because he was shown the communications direct from putin.
He also sees he's facing a blue wave and he's setting up his the elections were rigged scenario early.




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