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Fox News booked the wrong Democrat on a show. She used the spotlight to unload on Trump.

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posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: WarPig1939
Why is it the USA has to be the country to have one of the weakest immigration/border laws versus a place like Canada or Portugal or Switzerland or Italy or Russia or China or Japan or Israel or South Korea.

The countries I listed have some of the most toughest border laws. Why do people want the USA to have a weak border???


It's so obvious globalism. A weak border and never-ending flow of Illegal immigration with millions of people who won't assimilate and a good percentage of them abusing the welfare state will destroy America. Its the only way to destroy America, we can't be beat militarily.

So open our borders and turn us into a 3rd world socialist cesspool. Look at the tent citys and poop/needle filled streets in parts of San Francisco. Thats what they want all of America to be like.

edit on 24-7-2018 by ker2010 because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

This silly debate for one.
It clogs the prison system and is one of the reasons we still support private prisons in the country
it makes it so that the immigrants in question are possibly exposed to deceptive and predatory worker practices
tax money is limited from illegals
it polarizes the country

Those are just off the top of my head.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Woodcarver

I think I finally see the problem with your way of thinking. You appear to be a dualist. You apparently see the world as a series of either/or decisions, while I allow for much more nuance.


You are holding two contradictory opinions. You say you have no problem with people hopping the borders, But you also want security. There is no such thing as partially open borders. You either have screening or you have people crossing without identifying themselves.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Which is an unfounded fear as it is statistically proven that immigrants, even illegals, commit crimes at a lesser rate than native born citizens.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Woodcarver

I think I finally see the problem with your way of thinking. You appear to be a dualist. You apparently see the world as a series of either/or decisions, while I allow for much more nuance.


You are holding two contradictory opinions. You say you have no problem with people hopping the borders, But you also want security. There is no such thing as partially open borders. You either have screening or you have people crossing without identifying themselves.

I'm sorry that your thinking is so limited, but that is the case when your worldview is as dualistic as yours is.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Woodcarver

This silly debate for one.
It clogs the prison system and is one of the reasons we still support private prisons in the country
it makes it so that the immigrants in question are possibly exposed to deceptive and predatory worker practices
tax money is limited from illegals
it polarizes the country

Those are just off the top of my head.

Which country (or countries) in the EU are you speaking of ?

Glad to see you still around
Thought we had lost you...



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

The Americas are still two continents regardless of what nations existed here, buddy. Sounds like you need to study up on global geography too. Furthermore, the Natives were VERY diverse groups of people and MANY nations of all sorts existed across both Americas before the Europeans came here. It's clear that your knowledge of Native history is limited to what Hollywood portrays.

There are TONS of people afraid of immigrants in this country.

I hope you are right, but trying to make illegal border crossing a felony would be a step in that direction.


You forgot Mexico was a part of the continent smart one. The natives were very diverse, they considered themselves nations even though the colonists knew better. I stopped watching Hollywierd since high school as far as anything documentary related.

What tons of people are afraid of immigrants? Post the statistics proving it then. The only immigrants people are afraid of are the illegal immigrants and the immigrants that choose to not assimilate to life here in America. Heck some immigrants choose not to speak English at all and have been here for years and wonder why they are being avoided by most people that do speak English.

Making laws more punishable does not turn a country into a dictatorship. If that is true then you should complain to your congressman about texting and driving being a felony because it is inherently fascist.

edit on 24-7-2018 by WarPig1939 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Maybe i didnt see the same video as you ?

I was looking forward to a good counter argument and making a mockery of foxnews eventhough they do it to themselves, but all i saw was a lady plugging her campaign run?

I guess i dont see the big deal of this? Meh



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.


Yeah. That's why I didn't address that point of his and just erased it.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.

The comparisons are easy. Because the answers are the same.

do me a favor and answer these questions.


Do you lock your doors at night or when you leave the house? And why?

Do you let people you don’t know stay at your house for free while you buy them food and medicine. And why

I want both of you to reply to these questions please
edit on 24-7-2018 by Woodcarver because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.


Yeah. That's why I didn't address that point of his and just erased it.
You are avoiding answering these questions because you don’t like the answers.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.

The comparisons are easy. Because the answers are the same.

do me a favor and answer these questions.


Do you lock your doors at night or when you leave the house? And why?

Do you let people you don’t know stay at your house for free while you buy them food and medicine. And why


Yes, the answers may be the same, but the two are not comparable, so you are creating a false equivalence.

The questions are rather silly and show that you may not understand the concept of public and private.



I want both of you to reply to these questions please


Of course you do. Your entire argument hinges on a false equivalence.
edit on 24-7-2018 by introvert because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.

The comparisons are easy. Because the answers are the same.

do me a favor and answer these questions.


Do you lock your doors at night or when you leave the house? And why?

Do you let people you don’t know stay at your house for free while you buy them food and medicine. And why


Yes, the answers may be the same, but the two are not comparable, so you are creating a false equivalence.

The questions are rather silly and show that you may not understand the concept of public and private.
You forgot to explain why you lock your doors?



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: WarPig1939
You forgot Mexico was a part of the continent smart one. The natives were very diverse, they considered themselves nations even though the colonists knew better. I stopped watching Hollywierd since high school as far as anything documentary related.

Ah so you are one of those types who think that Eurocentric culture is the only way to be "civilized". Too bad you are still wrong. Also there is more land south of Mexico. When you get below Panama there is this WHOLE other continent. Surprising right? Well if you go study geography then you can learn these things and more.


What tons of people afraid of immigrants are afraid? Post the statistics proving it then. The only immigrants people are afraid of are the illegal immigrants and the immigrants that choose to not assimilate to life here in America. Heck some immigrants choose not to speak English at all and have been here for years and wonder why they are being avoided by most people that do speak English that doesn't speak a foreign language.

Lol.


Making laws more punishable does not turn a country into a dictatorship. If that is true then you should complain to your congressman about texting and driving being a felony because it is inherently fascist.

Texting and driving isn't a felony. At least not in my state. I can't speak for whatever state you live in that wants to police people so ridiculously like that though.
edit on 24-7-2018 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.


Yeah. That's why I didn't address that point of his and just erased it.
You are avoiding answering these questions because you don’t like the answers.

Whatever you say, Miss Cleo.



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.


Yeah. That's why I didn't address that point of his and just erased it.
You are avoiding answering these questions because you don’t like the answers.

Whatever you say, Miss Cleo.
Answer the question. Why do you lock your doors?



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Krazysh0t

No they are afraid of unvetted criminals.

Do you lock your door at night, or when you leave the house? Do you let people stay in your house if you don’t know who they are?


I've never understood that line of argument.

A home is not comparable to an entire nation and it's borders.

One is a private dwelling and the other is a public space in which not one person has any right to anything over any other person.


Yeah. That's why I didn't address that point of his and just erased it.
You are avoiding answering these questions because you don’t like the answers.

Whatever you say, Miss Cleo.
Is everybody allowed in your house? Is anybody allowed to drive your car?



posted on Jul, 24 2018 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

Intovert already explained to you that locking up your house is not a similar comparison to immigration into a country. So constantly making requests to answer the question which I went out of my way to ignore isn't going to make me suddenly unignore it.



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