Royal Navy signals for help to recruit gay sailors

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posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 01:37 PM
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All I can say is wth? What are the new adds going to say, come sail with us on her majesty's ship the HMS Tinkerbell?


geez, if the Royal Navy that hard up, literally?

I mean gay folks can make fine sailors but why advertise it? This is just plain nuts.!


Navy signals for help to recruit gay sailors


Navy signals for help to recruit gay sailors
Nicholas Hellen, Social Affairs Editor



THE Royal Navy has turned to Stonewall, the gay lobby group, for advice on how to recruit and retain homosexual sailors.
Senior officers want to encourage more gay and lesbian sailors, estimated at 2,100, to “come out”, paving the way for the first openly gay admiral.



The partnership, to be announced tomorrow, will provide the template for a wider change in the culture of the armed forces. Ben Summerskill, chief executive of Stonewall, said: “We hope that the RAF and the army will be following shortly.”

Vice-Admiral Sir James Burnell-Nugent, Second Sea Lord, said he looked forward to working with Stonewall, whose founders include Sir Ian McKellen, the actor. The admiral said it would help a culture in which “all our people are valued for themselves and are thus able to give 100% to their job”.

In a symbolic move, the navy will place advertisements in the Pink Paper, the first time it has sought recruits through the gay press.

Commodore Paul Docherty, for the navy, said: “(The advertisements) will show those who are gay and are uncomfortable about the environment (here) that our position on diversity is not just empty talk.”




posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 05:34 PM
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So no longer will they get their rum ration but recieve a bum ration? Quick who makes soap on a rope I see dollars here. Wait I can see it now, bath houses on Her Majesty's Ship, where you can have bum shagging good time. Need some priests?



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Reaganwasourgreatest
So no longer will they get their rum ration but recieve a bum ration? Quick who makes soap on a rope I see dollars here. Wait I can see it now, bath houses on Her Majesty's Ship, where you can have bum shagging good time. Need some priests?


I find offense in this.....

Why don't we just start saying...ummmm...the navy wants black men....well I guess now they will have fried chicken and watermellon in every mess hall....sickening.



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 07:06 PM
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BTW.....Ed....another gay thread? Just curious when I've noticed it before.



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by MacMerdin
BTW.....Ed....another gay thread? Just curious when I've noticed it before.


Well actually being an ex-US Navy guy I thought this one hit a damn nerve to be honest........

I can just see it now fashion wars on the high sea's.



posted on Feb, 21 2005 @ 07:49 PM
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Ok now for some added quotes and reactions I have found to this story

The British Navy's New Slogan: "Be all that you can be--on your knees in a toilet stall!"

"...and when I say there isn't any cannibalism in the Navy, I mean there is a certain amount."

Chapter Two: 'I Am Nailed To The Hull'.


This is the result of the world succumbing to the mental disease called "Liberalism."


"thay thailor" wink wink....


An attempt to cut down on shipboard pregnancy?


Gives a whole new meaning to referring to British Naval Officer as a Gay Blade


I'd think that and the flamer's fantasies of being one of The Village People would have them lining up to get in.


Apparently fighting and winning wars are not of primary importance to the Royal Navy, at one time the premiere fighting force in the world.


If you thought the Navy uniforms looked 'spiffy' now; just wait until the Navy get's the full 'make-over'. Battleship Grey will be out; replaced with Seafoam greens and lilac blues. One can only guess how the subs will be re-designed.


How do they spell sucksess?

"The cabin boy, the cabin boy, the naughty little nipper, shoved broken glass ..." from the ballad of Barnacle Bill the sailor.


Good times aboard The HMS Raging Queen


[edit on 21-2-2005 by edsinger]



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 11:43 AM
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I think you will find it is to promote PC, since the MOD are going absolutely ape shizen with that stuff.

Bad call by the MOD and RN flag deck.

This is going to go down great in pubs now aint it....why cant we get a break?



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 11:46 AM
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All I can say is LMAO!
Gays would probably make great sailors and add a touch of colour to those oh so drab boats and subs, they'll make them look Faaaabulous!


[edit on 22-2-2005 by sardion2000]



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
All I can say is LMAO!
Gays would probably make great sailors and add a touch of colour to those oh so drab boats and subs, they'll make them look Faaaabulous!


[edit on 22-2-2005 by sardion2000]


Well some can laugh all they want but this is not a good development for the Royal Navy......



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 06:57 PM
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what is the big deal gays has been part of the armed forces here in the US, that other country wants them so what, and by the way my brother served in the navy also.

When you people are going to understand that gays and lesbians has been around since the beginning of time and they will be here until the end.

So for "God" sake your god get use to it.



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 07:01 PM
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Well marg I will not say much except for you to ask your husband his opinion on the subject ok? You yourself have not served and therefore look at it differently, combat is one thing but this is a problem that is not needed in the service, just as women in combat are a distraction for the males , openly gay ones are even worse.........



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by edsinger
Well marg I will not say much except for you to ask your husband his opinion on the subject ok?


My husband served 22 years he knew about gays and he work with them, he made jokes and such specially when the "don't tell" came around, but as any other thing, in combat is all about helping each other and taking care of the fellow soldier, that is a women or men or gay or lesbian it does not matter.



You yourself have not served and therefore look at it differently, combat is one thing but this is a problem that is not needed in the service, just as women in combat are a distraction for the males , openly gay ones are even worse.........


Women are in the military right now, and they do a good job, and I find funny that more problems are coming from the "Macho" type than the women or "other type"



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 08:02 PM
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My friend dean serves on a warship in the uk, and whenever he comes to see me he tells me all the stuff he's been up to, i asked him whether theres any gay people on his ship, and he replies 'not that im aware of' and i beleave him, but he told me on his ship theres a small bar that sells alcohol and now and then when someone shouts out 'NAKED BAR!!' everyone one in the bar has to take off all their clothes and sit about naked while drinking and if you dont strip your not allowed in the bar! im sure id be up for it... but only if females were also engaging in such activity, but that does sound 'a bit gay' dont ya think?



posted on Feb, 22 2005 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Lukas
but he told me on his ship theres a small bar that sells alcohol and now and then when someone shouts out 'NAKED BAR!!' everyone one in the bar has to take off all their clothes and sit about naked while drinking and if you dont strip your not allowed in the bar!


Well I guess this will have to stop then wont it?
Geez you brits have all the fun....or at least did...



posted on Mar, 5 2005 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by edsinger

Originally posted by MacMerdin
BTW.....Ed....another gay thread? Just curious when I've noticed it before.


Well actually being an ex-US Navy guy I thought this one hit a damn nerve to be honest........

I can just see it now fashion wars on the high sea's.


That is extremely ignorant. There would be tons of straight males in the world who would dare not step outside their house without their brand name clothes on and hair immaculate. And it's possible that some of those are in the navy.



posted on Mar, 6 2005 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by cargo
That is extremely ignorant. There would be tons of straight males in the world who would dare not step outside their house without their brand name clothes on and hair immaculate. And it's possible that some of those are in the navy.


At least you have a sense of humor about it.



posted on Mar, 6 2005 @ 10:59 AM
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A tiny moment of high-profile publicity with a gay rights group expressing a desire to change hardly 'proves' how things are 'on the ground' does it?

Anyhoo who's kidding who here, what was it Churchill said - long ago - scoffing in reply to some dumb comment about the Royal Navys' supposed traditions?
'Rum sodomy and the lash' he said, wasn't it?

Gay men in the mainly male environment of the armed forces......geee who'd a thunk it.



posted on Mar, 6 2005 @ 03:30 PM
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This is an ignorant question on my part but the way you make it sound is as if it was already commonplace and that most of the Royal Navy engage in these acts.


I would hope I have misread your intentions and I damn sure hope they are wrong ...



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by edsinger
This is an ignorant question on my part but the way you make it sound is as if it was already commonplace


- Oh come on ed, pack it in. "Commonplace"? Who said that?

Gay people in the military has been a recurrent theme ever since there was a military anywhere.
....to the point of extreme where there are several recorded instances of the ancient 'powers' who used to have whole massed divisions of gay men to 'work over ' the defeated survivors of their battles and ensure their sufficient 'de-motivation' and docility in defeat.


and that most of the Royal Navy engage in these acts.


- I've told you a million times, do not exaggerate!


I would hope I have misread your intentions and I damn sure hope they are wrong ...


- I have no reason to believe that there are more gay people in the British military than, for instance, the US.
I would, however, suggest that armed forces generally have a higher proportion of gay men that the 'background societal level' because of the attractions of the macho all-male environment etc.

That is a world away from saying anything about "commonplace" or "most".



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 06:33 AM
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I always knew the UK had the gayest military in the world.





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