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Alpha Lipoic Acid for Neuropathy/Lions Mane for Alzheimer

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posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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Hello ATS,

About 4 months ago I started to experience some tingling/buzzing in my left foot. Parts of my left and right foot started to get numb similar to the feeling of having a sticker stuck to the bottom of your foot. I did have some numbness last year but it only lasted a few weeks and I did see a neurologist. He did mention possible Nephropathy but did not care to get into detail about exactly what it was so I ignored it and it subsided. This episode is exponentially worse and seems to be lasting a deal longer in duration. has passed.

I started doing research and unfortunately this is a common health problem for lots of people my age..it's kind of a lonely health problem because nobody can tell there is an issue so no sense of complaining about it. Some research pointed me in the director of Alpha Lipoic Acid. I ended up buying some in bulk on Ebay from a company that sells it in a silver pouch with a white label. I have been taking it for about a month and my symptoms have reduced considerably. Still have some vibration and minor numbness but it has been reduced. There is some good evidence that some trials provided some really positive results where it is now considered a form of treatment...and it's pretty cheap and it's not a psych medication that numbs the nervous system.

I take 600 mg a day (200 morning noon and night) and when you get the powder you must measure out 1/15 of a teaspoon to get a 100 or 200 mg serving (it's on the packaging). I ordered the spoon on amazon to take the odd measurement. As mentioned previously I have felt a good deal of relief but I've also stared getting a rash to see if it's related or not. I'm mentioning this to folks because this health issue can be quite debilitating for loved ones and this stuff may help out a great deal.

Another supplement I'm going to try is Lion Main that is apparently a mushroom that helps repair the myelin sheath that is part of your healthy nerves. This particular mushroom may also help with nephropathy but more importantly there has been some amazing studies for it's use for Alzheimer in rats. I ended up finding out this information listening to Joe Rogan who interviewed Paul Stamets who appears to be a specialist in the realm of fungi..please put emphasis on specialist. He discussed some studies where rats were given a neuro-toxin that created the plaque buildup in mice to a point where they essentially reproduced the symptoms of Alzheimer. This lion Mane was administered in after a few weeks they were essentially back to normal.

You can watch the clip here.
Paul Stamets

If anything I think the mushroom/Lion Mane may be useful as far as this post goes but maybe you nobody who has neuropathy that can benefit from the Alpha Lipoic Acid...
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posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: chrismarco

Actually I watched the interview and ordered Lions Mane and another one for immunity support. I just started taking them a few days ago.

The one thing I noticed right away was I could remember my dreams again and they seem to be more vivid. I will wait and see what other health benefits happen over the next few weeks.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 10:16 PM
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I probably get enough alpha Lipoic acid in my diet. I wonder if it would work for epilepsy if I boosted consumption?

I studied this acid a while back and it does have some good properties. We can also make some of this via metabolism, but I suppose like anything, inhibitors or promotors of enzymes can block creation of it. Many foods inhibit and promote enzymes.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

How did I know you'd be in this thread?


I am glad to read your posts on things like this. You're a veritable witch doctor (said with the best intent!) around here. I try to learn as much as I can about how certain things work, herbs, foods, synergies. But you have a finger in every.. pie, so to speak


Always good to read.

Mulungu is good for helping prevent alzheimers. From many reports, anyway, even if the plant itself is under studied. I haven't tried it, but just ordered a ton, more for the anxiolytic effect, and hopefully as a sleep aid. Bacopa and l-theanine are very impressive as an unconventional calmative. Not why I started it, but definitely a worthy discovery for me.

Everything just seems to hit the GABA receptors though. I prefer not to really hit them too much. A downregulated GABA receptor is a sleeping monster. I'm already on baclofen for other issues, and that has been one hell of a rollercoaster. Makes me even wary of valerian these days..



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: SummerRain
a reply to: rickymouse

How did I know you'd be in this thread?


I am glad to read your posts on things like this. You're a veritable witch doctor (said with the best intent!) around here. I try to learn as much as I can about how certain things work, herbs, foods, synergies. But you have a finger in every.. pie, so to speak


Always good to read.

Mulungu is good for helping prevent alzheimers. From many reports, anyway, even if the plant itself is under studied. I haven't tried it, but just ordered a ton, more for the anxiolytic effect, and hopefully as a sleep aid. Bacopa and l-theanine are very impressive as an unconventional calmative. Not why I started it, but definitely a worthy discovery for me.

Everything just seems to hit the GABA receptors though. I prefer not to really hit them too much. A downregulated GABA receptor is a sleeping monster. I'm already on baclofen for other issues, and that has been one hell of a rollercoaster. Makes me even wary of valerian these days..


Plain old potatoes are good for Gaba. They contain benzo chemistry, that has been known for a long time. Potatoes also have lipoic acid in their chemistry.

I study Pharmacuticals and reverse hack their chemistry to find the origination of developement Most times they are derived off of food chemistry and if you do not eat foods you should eat to keep a condition from happening, you get a disease. Everyone needs to eat differently.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: chrismarco

Sounds like you may have been floxxed.



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 01:38 AM
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I have a severe case of neuropathy that has spread up most of my legs and causes balance issues because of the numbness and loss of feeling. I am currently taking 2 x 600 mg tablets of Alpha Lipoic Acid each day and I drink a lot of Chaga Tea. I've been doing this for 3 weeks now and I have noticed a reduction in the tingling and numbness.
Wild Chaga Mushroom



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 02:32 AM
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a reply to: chrismarco

Make sure you get your blood glucose level checked. Neuropathy is a common side effect of diabetes.



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 04:04 AM
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a reply to: chrismarco

Lion's mane and ALA is good. You can also use sphingolin. I'm a holistic doctor and if you want to get other interventions on board, acupuncture can also help. I would find someone who is familiar with Dr. Tan Acupuncture. You can see him on YT. (Check out Dr. Zhu Scalp Acupuncture as an aside. Amazing man). But I always try to figure out what the cause is because that directs treatment. But as far as adjunctive supplements go, the one's mentioned here are good. Vitamin B12, or rather a complex B is good. Most supplements over the counter are sub par. You can find a list of supplement makers on Emerson Ecologics website that puts their products through testing. You can find some of them online. I personally would not buy OTC supplements. Check that site and find out who meets the Quality Assurance Standards. Cheers.
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posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 04:09 AM
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originally posted by: chrismarco
I did have some numbness last year but it only lasted a few weeks and I did see a neurologist. He did mention possible Nephropathy .


If the neurologist mentioned Nephropathy then your condition may be more serious than you think.

Nephropathy is your kidneys not functioning well and this could be causing the neuropathy (when the kidneys don't function well waste fluid can accumulate in certain parts of the body, causing a damage to your peripheral nerves in your feet and hands).

I would suggest you see a doctor as soon as possible, to rule out any major problems and to treat the cause of your neuropathy. Please remember untreated neuropathy can end up causing gangrene (and amputation).

For your own sake please don't listen to unqualified people online and seek expert advice. I hope you get better soon.



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: chrismarco

Triggered by the OP, I started to google around that mushroom ’Hericium erinaceus’. And to my amazement there are numerous scientific reports from reputable research teams on this. And results are pointing towards as OP put it: this indeed is a non-toxic to use and has neuro-generative properties, which in tests with rats have been simply astounding.

I guess big pharma does not really like that idea, as I have not heard of these mushrooms before, nor about their effects on nerve system.

I got convinced after few minutes checking creds - evidence is ample. Call me retard, but I had to order my own pillbox of those. Atleast not too long anymore.



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: chrismarco

This interests me, I was recently reading about this.

www.sciencedaily.com...

And how Alz begins in the Gut.


New research has shown that intestinal bacteria can accelerate the development of Alzheimer’s disease. According to the researchers behind the study, the results open up the door to new opportunities for preventing and treating the disease.



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 11:43 AM
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I have to look at my feet sometimes when I'm going from sitting to standing to make sure they are properly planted.
They are always tingling up to my ankles, sometimes completely numb.



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: mockingmay
I have a severe case of neuropathy that has spread up most of my legs and causes balance issues because of the numbness and loss of feeling. I am currently taking 2 x 600 mg tablets of Alpha Lipoic Acid each day and I drink a lot of Chaga Tea. I've been doing this for 3 weeks now and I have noticed a reduction in the tingling and numbness.
Wild Chaga Mushroom


I put a pinch of Chaga on top the grounds in my Mr. Coffee coffee pot basket often. It actually gives the coffee a little better taste. I do not know if there is enough to do anything, but I like the taste.

I don't care for full strenght chaga tea, I prefer it blended with coffee.



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
I probably get enough alpha Lipoic acid in my diet. I wonder if it would work for epilepsy if I boosted consumption?

I studied this acid a while back and it does have some good properties. We can also make some of this via metabolism, but I suppose like anything, inhibitors or promotors of enzymes can block creation of it. Many foods inhibit and promote enzymes.


I failed to mention that the mushroom specialist also discussed a mushroom that we should all have in our gardens. He theorizes that it may help the bees with the current be crisis. I'm sure you can find the clip on it but it truly sounds very promising.



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: Agartha

Peripheral neuropathy...



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: mockingmay
I have a severe case of neuropathy that has spread up most of my legs and causes balance issues because of the numbness and loss of feeling. I am currently taking 2 x 600 mg tablets of Alpha Lipoic Acid each day and I drink a lot of Chaga Tea. I've been doing this for 3 weeks now and I have noticed a reduction in the tingling and numbness.
Wild Chaga Mushroom


That is awesome news....I hope you get a lot of relief and get back where you need to be..



posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: chrismarco

This interests me, I was recently reading about this.

www.sciencedaily.com...

And how Alz begins in the Gut.


New research has shown that intestinal bacteria can accelerate the development of Alzheimer’s disease. According to the researchers behind the study, the results open up the door to new opportunities for preventing and treating the disease.


Alzheimer disease appears to be accelerated by added dopamine forming chemistry in the diet. Too much aged food or fermented food can increase the tyramines that increase the progression for those who do not break down the dopamine well. If there is not enough acetylcholine in the body and brain it also speeds up the progression. Diet cannot control susceptibility, only progression of the disease. But if you do not consume much ummami, then the Alzheimer disease may not be a problem in your lifetime, pushing off the disease till after you are dead. Drink coffee, eat eggs for breakfast occasionally, and don't overeat aged food chemistry or food full of tyramines. Taurine is often low in the brains of people who get alzheimer disease, but they are not sure if it is caused by the disease or whether it causes the problem. Taurine acts as a neuromodulator. It is a conditional amino acid, meaning you need to consume it or consume the elements to create the natural taurine in your body. A magnesium or B6 deficiency or a low sulfite oxidase enzyme can cause you to need to consume it. Manganese needs to be at adequate levels in your body too. Adequate molybdenum intake is needed too, nuts and seeds can usually provide that as long as your body can break down the fiber.

So, if you have a high amount of some bacteria in the gut that create tyramines of the right kind, they can bring your dopamine levels too high. Alzeheimer disease has a genetic link, which many people actually have that link, and bacteria can overburden the moderation, some people must stay away from tyramines in their diet.
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posted on Jul, 22 2018 @ 12:11 AM
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a reply to: chrismarco

F&S to mark. Great information - thanks.




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