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A Philosophical Criticism of Medical Science

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posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 08:20 PM
I'm currently reading the book "The Beautiful Cure: Revealing the Immune Systems Secrets and How they will Lead to a Revolution in Health and Wellness' by the Immunologist Daniel M. Davis.

My feelings toward this book are complex. At one level, I love learning about the complexity of the body; the different sorts of cells, their different molecular properties, and when and how they operate - under what circumstances and in what sorts of ways a single molecular type can be a positive or a negative feedback on functioning.

I love learning about this, and I do believe it holds promise in the development of medicines. But there is something far too ominous - poisonous and toxic from my perspective - compelling scientists into turning patient after patient into guinea pigs for theories which more often than not lead to the patients death. This is the greed of the pharmaceutical industry, and the sorts of human beings who believe they have a 'right' to tendentiously mislead themselves (and others) as to the value and promise of things which are still poorly understood, and which, under a certain philosophical criticism of the scientific merits of the claims being made, makes one wonder: is there anything coherent about attempting to "micro-manage" a person's immune system to kill of a cancer?

The Nature of Human Functionality

Too many scientists are 'heavy headed' when it comes to considering the ontological nature of the world they seek to better understand. The scientists Francisco Varela and Humberto Maturana, however, injected some sanity into analyzing the question "what is life", when one truly considers the cybernetic, hyper-controlled organization of chemical processes within the living cell - nevermind the organism.

We are chemicals. Before you realize the truth and value of this, you should spend some time reading into origin of life research, with many a good book for the intelligent layman (or woman) on how we work.

The cell is simpler, and therefore allows us to conceptualize all of the 'cognitive' processes going on within it. Cognitive means "knowing", and indeed, this is what serious contemplation of the molecular organization of the cell compels one to reflect upon: there is far too much complex going on for this to be mere 'randomness'. It is ordered; it is coherent. Indeed, an animal is as natural a thing as an eddy in a river. This is 'what happens' when certain chemical events emerge in nature.

The complexity of the living form therefore deserves to be acknowledged. An average cortical neuron is composed of around 100 billion molecules - and there are about 16 billion cortical neurons. These numbers are mind-boggling, and this is another critical point to remember: the body emerges through populations of molecules interacting at intensely complex thresholds in feedback and feedforward dynamics.

So what kind of analysis of human functionality makes the approach described in 'The Beautiful Cure' somewhat suspect? I would say it would be this:

The immune system is a physical system. Yes? And all physical systems are subject to 'entropy' - which is what bacteria, virus', parasitic worms, and fungi are to the animals they leech off: sources of stress and chronic dysregulation of bodily coherency.

The 'animal' is an abstraction, or emergent property, of what really appears to be 'chemical dynamics'. Regulation at the level that we see in animals is simply a function of an ordered system that is unbelievably attuned to those elements and conditions of its environment that support coherency. When the organism and its niche are 'tightly coupled', there is health and well being, and hence, a state of ordered symmetry.

Symmetry is that concept which, together with 'complementarity', makes clear what really organizes human functionality.

At the level of the quark, a 'stable' organiztion emerges when an 'up, up, and down' come togetherto create a proton; or the reverse, a 'down, down, and up' creates a neutron. A complementarity exists between quarks, which, at the level of the quark and neutron, leads to the 'nucleon', and with an electron, to the (hydrogen) 'atom'.

Clearly, there is a 'building' up process which emerges as a function of basic symmetry laws.

On Earth, a closed system partially open to the stimulating influences of the sun and moon, environmental 'symmetries' create, first at the microscopic level, the cell; and later on, as life begins to grow and literally colonize the face of the planet, these emergent chemical 'beasts' cognitively roam the land, seeking 'symmetry'.

At the level of the complex animal, a cardiovascular system, a liver, kidneys, stomach, lungs, bladder, intestines, perform functions that have cognates in the metabolic regulation of the cell. But what is the 'brain' of the cell? It's membrane? It's nucleus? The nucleus-membrane has cognates to the brain, with the sensory system being analagous to the membrane, and the motor system to the nucleus.

Where in this picture is the immune system? The immune system is everywhere. Each system - the skin, the gut, the liver, etc, has its own set of innate immune cells dedicated to protecting the coherency of its system. So there are 37 forms of interleukin - a protein which signals between white blood cells. Some forms have 'subforms' - with each molecular type being, assumedly, biophysically appropriate to the context it operates within. Outside these cells, there lies an 'adaptive' immune system, which is what the glands and ymph nodes are all about. The innate system communicates with the adaptive system, which brings out the adaptive system into a more concentrated response against the invasive microbe.

A completely analagous process exists in our minds (which is also reflected in brain morphology). There is an 'innate' consciousness which occurs BEFORE we are even aware (or recall) ourselves into existence; and then there is the ego-consciousness born from the way our memory systems have 'weaved together' coherent identities built around appropriate situations of 'meaning' in the outside world.

The outside world and its meanings - its socially defined, and context sensitive 'triggerings' - are, just like the innate immune system, so systematically apart of our awareness that we can never 'outdo' it, but can only "learn about ourselves" by analyzing how it is we work.

The conscious mind is 'informed' by cognitive (knowing) affective states just like the macrophage (a very large adaptive immune cell) is informed by dendritic cells (which communicate between the two systems).

This is clearly what is meant by a 'fractal' process. Our immune system is deeply coupled with our nervous system, such that they even parallel one another in the way they 'organize' their cognitive relations: a primary level, and a more complex secondary level which augments the former.

So what about humans? Humans cannot be abstracted as 'indviduals' anymore than an immune cell can be abstracted from the complex series of relations it has with other cells. The cells are bounded by a biophysical system; similarly, the human mind is 'bounded' by a psychosocial system - which is communicated by affects, by feelings of constraint - and then the subtle, 'cognitive' reaction we reflexively enage in.

Humans are bounded by social processes; the human is ontological dyadic: self and other; you and me. This is pretty wonderful to think about,

posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 08:21 PM
but it also makes one wonder, "ok, as to medical science investigations into treatments for cancer that use the immune system, how can we differentiate the influence of psychosocial factors on functionality, from the experimental protocol?"

It's a good question to ask, but its one which medical science is just too giddy with self-satisfaction to notice. Psychological function is a function of social context; nervous system function is a function of psychological function; immune system function is deeply affected by the 'entropic' influence of psychological stress - which in turn is influenced by social dynamics. Get the picture?

A perspective such as this allows us to recognize the promises for health and wellbeing that social consciousness can have for human individual wellbeing, yet the mainstream medical sciences continue to place 9 eggs out of 10 in the basket of "lets try to manipulate the system", as if the issue were one of 'not having enough of', as opposed to "coherency" - or a delicate regulation of complexly interacting molecules.

The poor success and the amount of 'ruthlessness' engaged in by scientists, justified on the grounds that these patients are 'already terminal', and that this is the only way we can ever "overcome cancer', could in fact be a profoundly misdirected approach to not just the treatment of cancer, but an understanding of what cancer is.

Understanding that the immune and nervous systems are analagous allows us - nay, logically forces us - to employ analogies: if my mind misrepresents social situations, would there perhaps be a continuity between 'reflexive psychological interpretations' and the way and manner our immune system "deals" with cancerous, or foreign materials?

In a very real sense, not knowing, or acknowledging, "what is good for you" as a psychosocial being, is akin to the immune system (which keeps track of self vs. not self, or more or less, "acknowledging" what happens) not "knowing" that a cancerous cell is growing within the body. Brought up a level: harboring a 'cancerous' self-state, or positive identification with an idealized (i.e. unreal) identity, is like "holding a cancer" within your neurodynamic functioning. There is an incoherent procedure within the system: the social recognition which builds the self and gives it "self-esteem", is being used to hurt other systems, which is very contradictory and hypocritical, because self-functioning is literally dependent on other people's recognition of you in your expression of agency. This 'deformity' at the psychological, or unconscious level, becomes 'translated' into nervous system dynamics, which is 'translated' into immune system functionality vis-à-vis the analogous process of regulating coherency throughout the body.

This perspective seems far more plausible a treatment for issues like cancer because it makes so much sense of how it is the "whole" is greater than the parts and yet the parts work together to make the whole - and so, the parts and the whole are equally deserving of attention.

Immunologists focus simply - and superficially - on a part at the expense of the whole. The nervous system is also a 'part', but it, logically speaking, depends on its directionality (or dynamics) on psychological events, which are subject to the mysterious 'top-down' effect of consciousness reflecting on itself, which might just be a global 'reentry' dynamic between many different sites in the brain - still, it is subject to the social dynamics of self's psychologically in interaction with one another.

And yet - this is the weirdness: the nervous system IS the basis of the events that happen in consciousness. There is this weird 'monistic dualism' where the inside CAN bring about events that can only happen if the inside is taken as primary - that is, as seriously as one can. When this happens, the system 'attunes' to the world, therefore revealing that the 'cognition' of the first cell appears to be the same cognition as our conscious mind. Our mind performs the function of what is unconscious in other beings - but conscious in us.

Question is - therefore, can science "recreate" what love does from within? The question doesn't even make sense, as the nervous system has intrinsic dynamics which medical interventions are seeking to 're-right'. Human medical science is a tad bit superficial in its scale-of-analysis, and even then, the question of "how" you even influence the system on such a subtle scale comes into focus. Seriously.

Of course, there is still room for improvement, and no doubt, with more knowledge, perhaps I will be 'proven' wrong, and the success of penicillin can be extended beyond the very general effect of bacterial infection, into the far more nebulous realm of cancer - where a systems own cells mutate at the genetic level.

Ultimately, though, I think most 'aware' people know this perspective is the right one. Genes - thoughts; coherent narratives, and coherent ecosystems, and coherent molecular dynamics, probably go together.
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posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 09:50 PM
a reply to: Astrocyte

Excellent post. Most appreciated.

*from one who has experienced immune system modification therapy and some of it's most ; serious, problematic, and near deadly side effects. First hand.

Thank you for your insight.
edit on 7 20 2018 by Lykan because: (Still) awful grammar.

posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 05:10 PM
What if they're paid to manipulate us?

posted on Jul, 21 2018 @ 11:07 PM
What if we are a perfect closed system...and if you do not allow parasites into your body you will remain healthy as long as you keep an alkalide blood state...what if what we call cancer is really a bacteria that is pleomorphic and is displaying its fungal state that we see as a mold which we call cancer.

What if an acidic body and blood is what parasites like.What if the chemicals caused by the life-cycles of parasites within our bodies cause diseases in us.What if parasites carry bacteria and those bacteria carry viruses....what if some of those bacteria are pleomorphic.....What if those pleomorphic bacteria when given an acidic body and blood and then given a specific combonation of chemicals from external sorces thrives in the witches brew of specific chemicals and then on cue it morphs into its fungal state and then reproduces so prodigiously it kills us.

What if our immune system registers measurable increases in impact when we fast and kill the adult and juveniles of some types of parasites in our bodies.What if drinking a glass of red wine every day actually kills specific parasites which lead to heart disease.What if the Romans gave an amount of alcohol to their troops to kill the parasites and bugs that ravaged them as they travelled through new geographical areas and were exposed to new and devastating parasites . What if being put into a Sweat Lodge brings your internal body temperature up so high it kills all STAGES INCLUDING EGGS of all parasites within your body.What if MJ oil when ingested also kills all stages of parasitic life from adults to uveniles to the coating the stomach and even killing the eggs.What if drinking the milk from a Bacterian Camel kills parasites and helps cure disease and what if any animal who is FED anti-parasitic foods will produce anti-parasitic milk like the Royal Herd does for the Queens Family.What if garlic and onions and foods from that family as well as corn and other foods produce chemicals some of the most damaging parasites NEED to even survive withn us.What if foods like pork and chicken and eggs carry the parasites which harbor the PLEOMORPHIC bacteria that once in our body lays dormant in billions of us until it is encouraged by chemical and environmental changes within us to MORPH and changes its form from bacterial to viral to fungal.What if bad people understand this chain of connectivity and begin to feed us the right chemicals to cause an acidic body and blood and to add the specific external chemicals to build the witches brew the pleomorphic bacteria requires .What if ALL ILLNESSES ARE CATALYSED BY THIS PARASITIC RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE JUST LIKE ALL OTHER LIFE FORMS ON EARTH and it is really this simple.Keep a non-acidic internal body and keep your blood alkaline and eat anti-parasitic foods regularly while at all costs avoiding foods you know carry the connection to the PLEOMORPHIC bacteria which morph into the fungal state or mold state that we call cancer.

What if there is NO MAJIC and 90% of the medical and research and treatment HAS NEVER EVER BEEN NEEDED.


What if there is a Global influence big and powerful enough to bastardise our education system globally and orchestrate our medical systems globally and to influence us physically via our water and the chemicals we use to clean it and what if these people FARM HUMANS LIKE COWS MAKING LITERALLY TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR keeping everyone sick to differing degrees and ignorant of causality and cure which are simple and available everyhere to everyone.
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posted on Jul, 23 2018 @ 08:17 AM
a reply to: one4all

what if what we call cancer is really a bacteria that is pleomorphic and is displaying its fungal state that we see as a mold which we call cancer.

Very good addition to thread.

Western medicine is Rockefeller medicine – all the way.

Western medicine has some good points, for sure, and is great in an emergency, but it’s high time people realized that today’s mainstream medicine (western medicine or allopathy), with its focus on drugs, radiation and surgery, is at its foundation a Rockefeller creation.

Petroleum Drugs

Let’s go back in time to the late 1800s. John D. Rockefeller, a man quoted to have said “competition is sin”, is the head of the Rockefeller family and has just become very rich through extracting oil from the ground. Now he is looking for ways to capitalize even further with his oil, and he comes across the idea of using coal tar – a petroleum derivative – to make substances that affect the human mind, body and nervous system.

These are called drugs, and they are excellent at masking or stopping symptoms, but overall do not cure the underlying cause of a disease.

posted on Jul, 23 2018 @ 08:25 AM
a reply to: Astrocyte

A great thread.

Question is - therefore, can science "recreate" what love does from within? The question doesn't even make sense

Whilst I concur the dangerous path science is going down as the premise of your thread; it appears that that horse has long since bolted. Who knows the extent of dark science in the weapons field?

4. Voice to Skull Technologies Artificial microwave voice-to-skull transmission was successfully demonstrated by researcher Dr. Joseph Sharp in 1973, announced at a seminar at the University of Utah in 1974, and in the journal “American Psychologist” in the March 1975 issue, the article was titled “Microwaves and Behavior” by Dr. Don Justesen (1975). [4]

In 2002, the US Air Force Research Laboratory patented precisely such a device: “a nonlethal weapon which includes (1) a neuro-electromagnetic device, which broadcast sound into the skull of persons or animals by way of pulse-modulated microwave radiation; and (2) a silent sound device, which can transmit ultrasound (above human hearing) into the skull of mammals.” NOTE: The sound modulation might be voice or audio subliminal messages.

One application of voice-to-skull uses was an electronic scarecrow to frighten birds in the vicinity of airports. [5]

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