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All They Have is Word Politics

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posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 02:39 PM
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All They Have is Word Politics



President Donald Trump is easily the most reviled, scrutinized, fact-checked, and hated president in recent history. Propagandists have employed legions of researchers to scour his life for any damaging information with which to assassinate his character, giving any and all accusations a voice, telling one side of the story, with experts and pundits parsing his words for their ever-willing audience.

The odd part about this phenomenon is that he hasn’t done much to deserve it. His greatest crime thus far was to have thoughts, open his mouth and (right or wrong) to speak his mind with little restraint.

The press and other opponents, by now making a mint off trying to make him look evil, draw their torrent of ire from tweets, comments, rhetoric, statements, misstatements, gaffes, clarifications…but not much else. Because of this, all the calls for treason, jail, impeachment, “resistance”, the protests, always have the quality of mass hysteria.

Some call him thin-skinned, discounting the fact that, despite the intelligentsia mocking his looks, his body, his mannerisms, his speech, his clothing, his diet, his love life, his lifestyle, his business, his family and nearly everything dear to him, he’s still standing there as if unaffected. He is ridiculed on late-night television, at award shows, in the magazines, in the international press, and among the countless meandering rallies in the streets—shamed for everything, applauded for nothing—but has yet to show any signs of slowing or capitulation to their schemes. If that is being thin-skinned, then his opposition must be without skin entirely.

The pillorying populace of today have tried to use the President’s public and private comments against him for the entire duration of his presidency. They have accused him of thought and speech crimes in the public square, some of them decades old. They have called for his impeachment, have slandered and defamed his name, his image, his brand, and have congregated en masse to display their anti-Trump messaging, as if their threats, insults, cries and whining have any effect beyond those who tend to deal in that type of currency.

Upon witnessing the febrile, reactionary response to Donald Trump’s rhetoric, one can’t help but remember that politicians in democracies have traditionally resorted to public relations, propaganda, often using their public personas in order to disguise their private ones. To the reactionaries today, the display is greater than the results. The public should have no idea of what their politicians are thinking, because they prefer when marketing firms and copywriters present lullabies and clichés. They do not want a leader, especially one that resembles them; they want a public face, an actor, a figurehead, someone to represent not their interests, but their vanities.

Their bullying and cruelty has not worked, not only because they have underestimated the President’s resilience to their outrage, but because they have overestimated everything that comes out of their own mouths.

In that sense they are Trumpian, engaging in the same game as the one they hate—accusatory, often petty, taking to twitter to make odd pronouncements—except that they lack the ability to affect anything beyond their own minds.

Meanwhile, behind the word politics, behind the pomp of their political theatre, their whipping boy alters the very course of human history, while the best they can do is talk about it. All they have is word politics.

-LesMis




posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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How I imagined this thread in my head after reading it....



You what though, I do think you might have a bit of a point, the press hate Trump but am sorry he has just made it so easy for them with the crap he comes out with and the way he alienates the press. Now yes this does mean definitely that the media need fact checked these days almost as much as trumps last stupid tweet they love to get all excited over.

That does not take way though from the fact that Trump gets bad press because a lot of people see him as a bad president, they look at him act like a fool on the world stage, they hear the crap that comes out of his mouth, they look at the mess his administration has been in since day one and its just bad. Thats not even getting into all of the scandals that have hit his administration.... I won't touch that for now.

The press are spinning this, what almost makes that worse I think is that they don't need to spin it, they could just publish transcripts of what he says and does and bullet points on what has happened and he would still be in this mess.

The media are hard on all leaders, the problem that Trump has is that he has totally alienated the media and his actions and words have made its just too easy for them to destroy him in the morning papers and nightly news.

He holds a lot of the blame for this, so do the media, but you cannot pretend that he doesn't deserve most of what he's getting.
edit on 20-7-2018 by OtherSideOfTheCoin because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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As the constant and relentless attacks on Trump continue, it's almost like a message is being sent to every single individual, in spite of individual rights and liberty.

That message: "Stay in your lane little man! This is our world and we don't appreciate you using your voice, speaking out at will and being a roadblock to our goals"

This is more than just MSM and faux outrage whenever the opportunity presents itself. It feels bigger than that. And to me, I can't and won't defend Trump tooth and nail, but more and more I feel like this is turning into a personal attack on me.

It feels like a struggle for power...

To me!

I for one have never trusted the establishment. It's evident they feel threatened.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
All They Have is Word Politics


The odd part about this phenomenon is that he hasn’t done much to deserve it. His greatest crime thus far was to have thoughts, open his mouth and (right or wrong) to speak his mind with little restraint.


-LesMis


And that alone is what makes #45 unsuitable for the office.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: six67seven

It is much, much bigger.

The clock is ticking on baby boomer dreams of socialist utopia, and they know it. They know it won't be long before they stare Death in the face and recall the events of their lives.

Obama represented the potential to fulfill their dreams in their lifetime, and Trump is now destroying them.

Their life work is the web of corruption that is being torn down around them in the twilight of their lives. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

Good riddance, boomers. Good riddance.
edit on 7/20/18 by NthOther because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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President Donald Trump is easily the most reviled, scrutinized, fact-checked, and hated president in recent history. Propagandists have employed legions of researchers to scour his life for any damaging information with which to assassinate his character, giving any and all accusations a voice, telling one side of the story, with experts and pundits parsing his words for their ever-willing audience


If only they treated the last prez that way, and the current prez's challenger.

One might call them journalists, instead of hacks.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

“On the world stage”. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Any old actor reading a script can make you feel good on the world stage.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

“On the world stage”. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Any old actor reading a script can make you feel good on the world stage.


Appart from Trumps speech writers it would seem.....



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

“On the world stage”. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Any old actor reading a script can make you feel good on the world stage.


Appart from Trumps speech writers it would seem.....


If that’s the type of politics you prefer, no, Trump isn’t the best at it. Expertise of that sort takes years of training, vast public relations, and a knack for propaganda.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: six67seven




posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

You prefer canned speaches and corporate overtones?

I prefer a human being and transparency.

S&F to the OP.


edit on 20-7-2018 by Isurrender73 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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I 'm going to the bookstore to day to pick up a copy of it. By the way, how did you come across that ?
Who ever thought of that should be given a damn good raise in Yen.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Clearly, the creator of the OP, is and always has been a blind supporter of trump. Just look at all of the posts....Many of the posts are on PROPAGANDA, against the democratic party. Also clearly a troll...


Time and time again I have seen it.....

Lets just say this OP, trump has 0 respect for any kind of vow, or commitment. Married 3 times, and could not be faithful to one of them! So, if you trust him, like his wives did, you knew going in that he was a liar.






posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

No public figure should go unscrutinized.

However, balance is required.

The MSN bias is evident. They never said a bad thing about Obama, and his constant "I did this.." "I will do that". His Eloquence at lulling people to sleep as he spoke was uncanny, very flowery and non-thought provoking. He constantly promised things said he would do things, but delivered and meant the opposite.

The media bias is quite evident, and not applied equally across the board. If you can't see it, your in too deep.

Balance is required in all things to be fair, but I see nothing fair these days. The Divide has never been greater, and the MSM keeps driving the wedge, spreading lies and half-truths to garner more views and clicks.

Obama started the cleft that now runs through our country with his "If I had a son, he would be like Treyvon", and the media has been slamming the wedge in deeper and deeper ever since.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

How dare people use Trump's "words" against him?

Nowhere do you address the impact of Trump purulent demagoguery or the fact that his "words" are as likely to be lies as truth. His apparent lack of filter is only indicative of his lack of shame not evidence of candor.


Upon witnessing the febrile, reactionary response to Donald Trump’s rhetoric, one can’t help but remember that politicians in democracies have traditionally resorted to public relations, propaganda, often using their public personas in order to disguise their private ones.


I actually thought, for just a brief moment, that when you started off with "febrile" and "reactionary," you were speaking to Trump's rhetoric.


Their bullying and cruelty has not worked


Yawn:


In that sense they are Trumpian, engaging in the same game as the one they hate—accusatory, often petty, taking to twitter to make odd pronouncements—except that they lack the ability to affect anything beyond their own minds.


So you're admonishing folks for responding to Trump in kind and your reasoning for why it's a non-issue in Trump's case is that he's President?


Meanwhile, behind the word politics, behind the pomp of their political theatre, their whipping boy alters the very course of human history, while the best they can do is talk about it. All they have is word politics.


"Whipping boy?" If you continued writing any further, I suspect you'd start making comparisons to Jesus. Oh the poor mistreated messiah! How he has taken the slings and arrows for his people! May his figurative crucifixion open the gates to Heaven for those who seek salvation through him! *cry*


All they have is word politics.


Actually, "they" have much more than you do — namely, votes to cast in the 2018 and 2020 elections. You'll see how drastically his ability to affect anything beyond his own mind is curtailed when the party he leads no longer controls both houses of Congress.

I find it strange that your defenses of Trump nearly always take the form of attacking the criticism of Trump as opposed to promoting his policy or his actions. It's almost like your contributions to political discourse are no more substantial than those of the people you presume to castigate.
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posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

You know what? The MSM, uses trumps own damn words, and then he calls it fake news! The MSM is simply showing on the air, what trump says, and then a day later, its fake news.


Remember on AF1, he was calling the MSM liars and fake news, over the Stormy payment? Then just a few days later, Rudy, COMFIRMED what trump called fake news, and trashed the MSM over!

The damn deaf and dumb, leading the blind!






posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Yes, yes, use your words. Makes you feel powerful, doesn’t it?

That’s not the case, however. Your frothing continues only because of a deep need for catharsis, conformity, and not because it is having some effect beyond your own skull.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:44 PM
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I see the usual suspects are all fired up and ready to go after a fresh nap and their afternoon juice and cookies.

Should be another very productive thread in the great think tank known as the mud pit.
edit on 20-7-2018 by MisterSpock because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:45 PM
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How dare people use Trump's "words" against him?


I'm still waiting on Trumps tv station someone made a thread about way back.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock
I see the usual suspects are all fired up and ready to go after a fresh nap and their afternoon juice and cookies.

Should be another very productive thread in the great think tank known as the mud pit.


Perhaps you hold internet forums to too high a standard.




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