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originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
To be fair they have, but a lot of the ones at the ALSJ (and the Apollo Image Atlas) are not always of the best quality.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
Yet a craft much heavier lands and not even a hint of motion around the entire area? Not even around the foundations on the landing pads?
originally posted by: ArMaP
originally posted by: odzeandennz
Yet a craft much heavier lands and not even a hint of motion around the entire area? Not even around the foundations on the landing pads?
Look at this photo.
originally posted by: ArMaP
originally posted by: Jonjonj
Given we have high quality resolution available for monitors...
Sorry, but I don't understand what one thing has to do with the other.
originally posted by: Jonjonj
Well that is your problem not mine.
Suffice to say that even today we are faced with a select barrage of s*** photos when in fact such quality was always available.
originally posted by: wildespace
originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Friggin no dust at friggin all on the pads
Here's some dust on the pads.
originally posted by: Jonjonj
originally posted by: ArMaP
originally posted by: Jonjonj
Given we have high quality resolution available for monitors...
Sorry, but I don't understand what one thing has to do with the other.
Well that is your problem not mine. Suffice to say that even today we are faced with a select barrage of s*** photos when in fact such quality was always available.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People
So you are going to buy that a foot from a gentle foostep can leave a marginally sized print, with actual visible displacement in the soil and from a photograph mind you.
Yet a craft much heavier lands and not even a hint of motion around the entire area? Not even around the foundations on the landing pads?
Why aren't there trail marks, where the legs would have slid during the landing. Astronauts don't land square and stop moving, they recoils to catch themselves because of lack of friction. Did the craft simply land flat? When in every training simulation videos, they never seem to be able to do. They struggle to level the craft then I'll thruster when the are as close to and as flat relative to the ground.
originally posted by: 3n19m470
Does anyone know what speed they were going at the time of impact? Or how many pounds of force per square inch or something?
I'm sure there were "pad prints" under the lander, just like the astronauts left their boot prints. I am sure dust was "displaced"...
Here on Earth, no one pays much heed to dust or sand blasted out by a rocket launch because "atmospheric drag rapidly slows the lightweight particles so they fall harmlessly to the ground a few meters from the blast," he explains. But on the Moon? "There is no atmosphere to slow tiny particles." Small grit can travel enormous distances at high speeds, scouring everything in its path.
[...]
Dust particles accelerated by a rocket's exhaust could theoretically travel all the way around the Moon!
Metzger's team has analyzed how the impact craters formed on Surveyor 3 and finds that the particles must have been traveling at least 400 to 1,000 meters per second.
New research has revealed the seemingly gentle touchdowns of the six Apollo Lunar Modules (LMs) on the moon between 1969 and 1972 were actually incredibly violent events.
The Lunar Module's descent engine blew out high-velocity lunar particles that strafed the landscape.
"The smallest particles were seen by the Apollo astronauts to fly right out over the horizon and keep on going," said Philip Metzger of NASA's Kennedy Space Center (KSC). "Depending on the actual velocity they may have gone halfway around the moon or more. In most cases they would only travel until they hit a natural terrain feature, such as a crater rim or a mountain range."
These minute specks of lunar dust are estimated to have been propelled at speeds of between 0.6and 1.5 miles per second (up to 5,400 mph or 8,690 kph). That's nearly fast enough to escape the moon's gravity and enter orbit around the sun.
originally posted by: 3n19m470
In space, a nuke going off right next to an object will not harm it.
I'm not buying the light or the horizon.