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If trump colluded with the Russian government then his actions make sense.

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posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Occam's razor is too complicated for most people to grasp




posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Treason in layman’s terms is not the legal term treason..

Legal term Treason requires a war.. even then. When was the last person executed for treason???


When was the last unarmed police shooting where all the republicans said “he should have followed the orders..”

A month ago??

Lol..

Only one side is cool with the state executing citizens without a trial..



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: njord

Just a teaspoon of deductive reasoning about what is logistically required to pull off (fill in the blank rightwing conspiracy) debunks most of conservatism..

“They are comming to get your guns”

No American politician has ever even proposed it and the military and cops wouldn’t do it..

The fbi/cia/exc are risking their careers and freedom to set trump up when trump owns every branch of law enforcement. So there are no democrats in power to protect them..


Yea.. that makes any sense..



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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I bet you never objected to this

obama mic slip

This boogy man Trump bs is beyond ridiculous. The country has been compromised internally for a century and now, all of the sudden, there's a coordinated outrage directed at one man.

Did Trump give the federal reserve power over the monetary system? Did Trump coordinate with the mob to kill JFK? Did Trump stage the gulf of tonkin incident to start a war? Did Trump lie about WMDs and invade a country that had nothing to do with 911? Get your head out your a$$ and look at the real problems



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox




Treason in layman’s terms is not the legal term treason.. Legal term Treason requires a war.. even then. When was the last person executed for treason???

So do we just ignore those in authority that are screaming "treason"?


from your op



If trump did colluded with Russian agents it answers EVERYTHING.. It all makes perfect since.. To assume trump is innocent you have to come up with all these various excuses to explain away his actions.

funny assuming innocence is what we do in the usa, it is one of the things that separates us from the rest of the world.

and then there is this

www.realclearpolitics.com...



Now, there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.


still no actual evidence for your op other than your tds
as to your problem with local law enforcement, perhaps you could start a thread on it



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: DanDanDat

A) no I do not think there are even close to enough never trumpers to empeach trump..


The GOP is scared to death of trump..


Most or all of the gop primaries since trump’s election have ended with the “alWaYs trumper” winning.

Trump has effectively conquered the gop and like trump said, he could kill someone and his supporters would still support him and that makes up a huge chunk of the gop base..

B) this isn’t treason..

It seems like treason lol.. but treason is a very specific legal charge..

The law trump would have broken is “accepting something of value fro a foreign country.”

Burglary has very specific laws already policing it..


There is no very specific law policing “making a backroom deal with a hostile government to swing your own presidential election “.

C) just because it is such a crazy thing no one thought to make a law. Doesn’t mean it isn’t morally outrageous a
D something that everyone agrees SHOULD HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL.


You can’t make a law until you have a problem..

No one expected to need a law for this..

Like I said.. if it were me and you who did it they would find a law..


D) we find out what happens when muller releases his results.



So if I can break this down with you ....

The Democrats and their allies do not have enough support and unfortunately have to live with Trump because his support is greater than theirs. There are no legal avenues to deal with Trump because despite how icky he might be he hasn't actually broken any laws ... maybe one day someone somewhere will make a law to not be icky (which we all agree with)... Muller has no urgency to complete his investigation, which can only really mean ending the Trump presidency isnt that important from a national security perspective.

So with your help I'm baskly where I started ... there isnt much there there. We have partisans being partisan and abnormal sence of hysteria based on that partisanship.

Thanks for helping me understand this Joshua; at least we can hope Republicans dont hold on to power in November... it will have to do.



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: CymaticA


A) Are you so beholden to Fox News you just regurgitate their garbage?!?!

Your making an argument to something I never said lol...


I don’t care if trump was nice to putin..

Hell im not even mad at trump for colluding..

I’m mad at trump for bringing 3 known frauds to the second presidenial debate to accuse FALSELY accuse Bil Clinton of rape..


That is down right dispicable..

Research Juanita broadricks account sometime.. it is the most ridiculous claim ever..

Her only proof of ever meeting Clinton was an autograph he signed at a building opening..

Plus she looks like a wilderbeast.. and I doubt super desirable ladies men who beat off interns with a stick go around raping wilderbeasts..


B) Obama saying that is in NO WAY equivalent to trump colluding with a hostile government to leak STOLEN US GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS as dirt on his political opponent..


“I’l have More leverage after the election” doesn’t equal the collusion theory..

In no way shape form or fashion..



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

There is no Russia Collusion between Trump and Putin. 1-1/2 years of investigations proved that. Give it a rest. Don't be a sore loser like Hillary.



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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to accuse FALSELY accuse Bil Clinton of rape.


I dare you to say that to the face of Quanita Brodderick!



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: DanDanDat

Oh no. The democrats have the support of the majority of the American people..

That is why the republicans keep losing the popular vote, even when they win the election..


The democrats DO NOT however have control of ANY branch of the government..


Only because of gerrymandering and he electoral college, but that doesn’t count for much... what matters is who is in office..




I probably sound pro democrat and I am anything but..

I am anti-propaganda..

People have the right to make informed decisions based on accurate information..

Not to be sold conspiracy theories that shouldn’t fool a 12 year old.

See the problem with the gop’s propaganda is it is basically saying..

“We do not have a broken system. Obama and Hilary are just supervillians”..

And not supervillians with a realistic goal like profit..

No...

“Obama is a Kenyan Muslim , socialist, Plante who wants to destroy his own country.. “

“Hillary has killed people and runs a pedo ring in a pizza shop.. “


“Shira law is comming to America!””


“They are comming to get your guns”

“They want abortion until the 9th month”

“White Christian males are the most discriminated group in America...”even though white Christian males hold every position of authority..

“All the media are In a vast conspiracy to discredit conservatives!”



I could go on...

And ALL of those things are pushed by ELECTED REPUBLICANS and mainstream commentators..

And none of those things are inherently profitable.. you would spend money to orchestrate them.. not make money..



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

I absolutely would..

Her story is a joke..

And such a joke trump had to have known it was a joke..


What is a good name for someone who intentionally falsely accuses others of rape???



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 05:12 PM
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Good morning Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin. What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly? I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first. Best Rob Goldstone
a reply to: thepixelpusher

The explain that and then the meeting afterward..



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 05:55 PM
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Because Putin is Trumps strongest ally against the NWO who have their hands round the throats of every western nation

Trump wants to free America from being destroyed by "them" the people who own the deepstate



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: TritonTaranis
Because Putin is Trumps strongest ally against the NWO who have their hands round the throats of every western nation

Trump wants to free America from being destroyed by "them" the people who own the deepstate


Couldn't have said it better!



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: thepixelpusher

I absolutely would..

Her story is a joke..

And such a joke trump had to have known it was a joke..


What is a good name for someone who intentionally falsely accuses others of rape???




Go ahead then and say it to her face. You have no idea if BJ Clinton did or didn't do that! Why would you be a rape enabler!!??
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posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 07:00 PM
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Read her account...



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

Lmao..

What?!?



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Ever heard the phrase "let them dig their own grave"?

As far as Manafort goes, when Rosenstein takes the stand, and is asked why Manafort is in the courtroom based on charges from a decade ago, that Rosenstein had cleared him of previously, who's going to look like the fools?

It's funny how when the DNC has Steele make up a fake dossier, that it's called opposition research, but Jr responding to an email that may show evidence of wrong doing is called collusion.

As they always say, idiocy knows no bounds.



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 07:26 PM
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Trump wants to free America from being destroyed by "them" the people who own the deepstate


Exactly who are the people that own the deepstate? The CIA, FBI, neocons, Mormons, Skull and Bones, Masons, politicians, the educated people that wear glasses....who?



posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: DanDanDat

Oh no. The democrats have the support of the majority of the American people..

That is why the republicans keep losing the popular vote, even when they win the election..


The democrats DO NOT however have control of ANY branch of the government..


Only because of gerrymandering and he electoral college, but that doesn’t count for much... what matters is who is in office..




I probably sound pro democrat and I am anything but..

I am anti-propaganda..

People have the right to make informed decisions based on accurate information..

Not to be sold conspiracy theories that shouldn’t fool a 12 year old.

See the problem with the gop’s propaganda is it is basically saying..

“We do not have a broken system. Obama and Hilary are just supervillians”..

And not supervillians with a realistic goal like profit..

No...

“Obama is a Kenyan Muslim , socialist, Plante who wants to destroy his own country.. “

“Hillary has killed people and runs a pedo ring in a pizza shop.. “


“Shira law is comming to America!””


“They are comming to get your guns”

“They want abortion until the 9th month”

“White Christian males are the most discriminated group in America...”even though white Christian males hold every position of authority..

“All the media are In a vast conspiracy to discredit conservatives!”



I could go on...

And ALL of those things are pushed by ELECTED REPUBLICANS and mainstream commentators..

And none of those things are inherently profitable.. you would spend money to orchestrate them.. not make money..



So when I said:

" The Democrats and their allies do not have enough support and unfortunately have to live with Trump because his support is greater than theirs."

I should clarify it to mean that the power of the Republican support is greater than the power of Democrats support even though the Democrats have a great number of people supporting them in small regional locations around the country? Got it.

Than you go into a bunch of partisan dogmatic stuff so I think I covered that correctly?




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